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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:57:56 GMT
Seditious Conspiracy? Rebellion? Insurrection? Whatever the Charge, Federal Law Will Not Be Kind to the Pro-Trump Mob. lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/seditious-conspiracy-rebellion-insurrection-whatever-the-charge-federal-law-will-not-be-kind-to-the-pro-trump-mob/ Words matter. Language matters. Laws matter. Consequences matter. ------ "On the afternoon of Jan. 6, a mob of US president Donald Trump’s supporters forced its way into the nation’s capitol, overwhelmed police, and smashed windows—forcing lawmakers into hiding, occupying the floor of the House and Senate and congressional offices, and derailing the certification of president-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the November elections. What do you call such a brazen, dangerous, and undemocratic act?" qz.com/1953602/is-america-experiencing-a-coup/Let's remember little Elizabeth from Tennessee self-labelled it a "Revolution!" Cuz she doesn't understand that revolutions are for when you don't live in a democratically-elected Republic. And anytime they don't get the result that they like it MUST BE because the election was RIGGED!!! ps - Elizabeth was able to walk away largely unharmed after breaching the Capitol for a "REVOLUTION!!!". pps - Elizabeth is white. |
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Post by julie5 on Jan 7, 2021 15:00:20 GMT
Just saw a cnn reporter interview on scene that was done yesterday-Magat woman says “we’re going pull the senators out by the hair of thur hayed!!!”
Reporter says “Does violence have to be necessary?”
Woman says “who’s being violent?”
I have no words.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 15:05:18 GMT
"Indeed, several sections of federal law could feasibly apply to Wednesday’s events.
The most likely law that could be used against the rioters is 40 U.S.C. § 5104, a broad prohibition against sundry “unlawful activities” on U.S. Capitol grounds.
The law criminalizes “violent entry and disorderly conduct,” bars people who are not government officials from bringing “firearms, dangerous weapons, explosives, or incendiary devices” onto Capitol grounds, penalizes “injuries to property” and also prohibits “obstruction of roads” on the Capitol grounds “in a manner that obstructs or hinders their proper use.” D.C. also outlaws such acts, as we discuss here."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 15:06:40 GMT
"Another suite of potential (albeit extremely serious) law on point here is codified at 18 U.S.C. Chapter 115 under the heading of “Treason, Sedition, and Subversive Activities.”
Specifically, the numerous people who–sometimes easily; sometimes through the use of concerted force–made their way past Capitol security and police on Wednesday may find themselves open to charges of seditious conspiracy and rebellion or insurrection."
Contained at 18 U.S.C. § 2383, rebellion or insurrection under federal law is defined as:
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 15:08:38 GMT
Seditious conspiracy, which is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2384, is defined as:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 7, 2021 15:24:29 GMT
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Post by myboysnme on Jan 7, 2021 15:39:44 GMT
At least 4 "friends" of mine posted on my facebook page in response to my post about a coup that this was a peaceful protest of stolen election and that it was no where near what BLM protests have done.
I deleted my post after I let several people like their posts so I could confirm who needed to go in a friends purge. I kept some of them because I need them for other reasons right now, but I can see how very far apart we are politically even when our lives and interests cross paths in other ways.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 7, 2021 16:34:35 GMT
Seditious Conspiracy? Rebellion? Insurrection? Whatever the Charge, Federal Law Will Not Be Kind to the Pro-Trump Mob. lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/seditious-conspiracy-rebellion-insurrection-whatever-the-charge-federal-law-will-not-be-kind-to-the-pro-trump-mob/ Words matter. Language matters. Laws matter. Consequences matter. ------ "On the afternoon of Jan. 6, a mob of US president Donald Trump’s supporters forced its way into the nation’s capitol, overwhelmed police, and smashed windows—forcing lawmakers into hiding, occupying the floor of the House and Senate and congressional offices, and derailing the certification of president-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the November elections. What do you call such a brazen, dangerous, and undemocratic act?" qz.com/1953602/is-america-experiencing-a-coup/Let's remember little Elizabeth from Tennessee self-labelled it a "Revolution!" Cuz she doesn't understand that revolutions are for when you don't live in a democratically-elected Republic. And anytime they don't get the result that they like it MUST BE because the election was RIGGED!!! ps - Elizabeth was able to walk away largely unharmed after breaching the Capitol for a "REVOLUTION!!!". pps - Elizabeth is white. Too early for a little humor? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 16:37:09 GMT
At least 4 "friends" of mine posted on my facebook page in response to my post about a coup that this was a peaceful protest of stolen election and that it was no where near what BLM protests have done. Refer them to the US Code on Sedition and Insurrection above. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 7, 2021 16:46:16 GMT
That entire thread has some funny moments to combat all the wtf happened yesterday.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 7, 2021 16:48:36 GMT
MSNBC has the chief of Police on right now outlining what they are doing to find the terrorists involved in yesterday’s riot, I hope there are a whole slew of arrests made in the coming days.
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Post by Really Red on Jan 7, 2021 16:51:08 GMT
Thank you @zingermack.
I am done being nice. Even to my neighbors and my colleagues at work. I do not have too many people on my own FB page who are insane, but I see what people post on other people's posts and this post is helpful to rebut them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 16:55:42 GMT
outlining what they are doing to find the terrorists involved in yesterday’s They each need to be found and tried and convicted and JAILED for YEARS. Especially the ones trashing the offices, posing at the desks, and otherwise making a mockery of democracy. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 7, 2021 16:58:24 GMT
I am done being nice. Even to my neighbors and my colleagues at work. I do not have too many people on my own FB page who are insane, but I see what people post on other people's posts and this post is helpful to rebut them. I've deleted so many people, I might as well delete my account. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 7, 2021 17:02:58 GMT
MSNBC has the chief of Police on right now outlining what they are doing to find the terrorists involved in yesterday’s riot, I hope there are a whole slew of arrests made in the coming days. I thought he said to go to the mpd website to look at photos of unidentified individuals, I went to this website, but I'm not seeing anything?
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Post by Olan on Jan 7, 2021 17:17:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 17:19:28 GMT
The answers are *white* in front of you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 17:52:48 GMT
Looks like the House settled on insurrection.
Sedition seems more apt to me (based on the code references above) - but then, I'm not an atty.
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