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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2021 1:17:01 GMT
Yikes. I didn't know that! Was there an assassination attempt on GWBush? I don't remember that. On 9/11 the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was thought to be heading to the WH. And the grenade incident myshelly posted about. But wasn’t he in Florida at a public event?
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Post by myshelly on Jan 10, 2021 1:28:22 GMT
The only reason I am not convinced a military base is the best would be because so many veterans were involved in the insurection. Now you could say active duty are different from veterans, but it only takes one day to move from the former to the later. So I am just skeptical, but have no better plan. But they can easily close down a military base and not allow any veterans on base unless they are “on the list.” The same with active duty, actually. If they want to, they can limit the active duty who also can come on base. Just because I have a military ID doesn’t mean that I can have access to any military base at any time that I want to. I don’t think she’s worried about vets getting on base, she’s worried about how many in the army support Trump, so would they even protect Biden.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 2:03:20 GMT
I personally think the best thing Biden can do for this country is not back down and return to our time honored traditions as quickly as possible. Granted, there may be a bullet proof bubble over the area of the Capitol where President Biden and guest are seated, but we need to return to normal.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 10, 2021 2:19:57 GMT
I am concerned about LEOs having the right to carry and be close to Biden and Harris. After watching them aid the terrorists enter the Capitol all it would take is one nut job cop close enough to target them. There is no way to protect against that. They will be there, allowed to be close and expected to be armed.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 10, 2021 2:29:26 GMT
I can't imagine the trumpanzees would want to see Kamala become President so I doubt murderous mayhem will take place. But then again, I never thought I'd see them swarm the Capitol. I just hope they are safe and there is an over abundance of caution.
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Post by schizo319 on Jan 10, 2021 2:43:19 GMT
Could they do it in the oval office? I rather like the optics of him literally getting to work immediately following the ceremony. It would certainly be much easier to secure.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 10, 2021 2:45:11 GMT
I can't imagine the trumpanzees would want to see Kamala become President so I doubt murderous mayhem will take place. But then again, I never thought I'd see them swarm the Capitol. I just hope they are safe and there is an over abundance of caution. I’m honestly not sure they understand that if Biden died Harris becomes president. I wouldn’t put it past them to believe that if something happens to Biden, Trump would still be president. They literally do not understand that as of noon on Jan. 20 Trump is not president anymore.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 10, 2021 2:50:44 GMT
I can't imagine the trumpanzees would want to see Kamala become President so I doubt murderous mayhem will take place. But then again, I never thought I'd see them swarm the Capitol. I just hope they are safe and there is an over abundance of caution. I’m honestly not sure they understand that if Biden died Harris becomes president. I would put it past them to believe that if something happens to Biden, Trump would still be president. They literally do not understand that as of noon on Jan. 20 Trump is not president anymore. Probably even Trump thinks he'll still be president of something happens. His enablers are probably not telling him otherwise. Anything to keep the baby calm.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 10, 2021 2:59:09 GMT
I can't imagine the trumpanzees would want to see Kamala become President so I doubt murderous mayhem will take place. But then again, I never thought I'd see them swarm the Capitol. I just hope they are safe and there is an over abundance of caution. It is Harris that pisses them off so much, she's brown. They hate her. I'm worried about her more than Biden. The base that this insurrection sprung from is the outrage that Obama was overwhelmingly voted president, not once but TWICE. They can't stand the fact that we had a classy black president. It is all rooted in racism.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 10, 2021 3:55:51 GMT
On 9/11 the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was thought to be heading to the WH. And the grenade incident myshelly posted about. But wasn’t he in Florida at a public event? Yes, but it was suspected the terrorists did not know that. He was at an elementary school.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 3:59:49 GMT
I am concerned about LEOs having the right to carry and be close to Biden and Harris. After watching them aid the terrorists enter the Capitol all it would take is one nut job cop close enough to target them. There is no way to protect against that. They will be there, allowed to be close and expected to be armed. I just saw a report that said Biden is switching over ALL of the secret service. Usually they are apolitical and roll over to the new president, but there are so many Trump sycophants in the SS that Biden is getting rid of them and getting some new ones and getting some that served while he was VP. I'm assuming they will be hired before the inauguration. As for assassination attempts on Biden and Harris, that's the last thing the right wing nuts want because then Pelosi becomes President is she is worse than both of them put together. (Told to me by my trump loving dh. He also thinks the only reason they want to invoke the 25th is so that Biden can step down and have Harris be President because she is Pelosi's puppet. I know, I know. I bit my tongue so hard. But there's some Republican intel for ya. Lol)
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2021 4:04:17 GMT
But wasn’t he in Florida at a public event? Yes, but it was suspected the terrorists did not know that. He was at an elementary school. I hadn’t heard that, assumed since it was a public event it was on his schedule which is made available to the press.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2021 4:10:24 GMT
I am concerned about LEOs having the right to carry and be close to Biden and Harris. After watching them aid the terrorists enter the Capitol all it would take is one nut job cop close enough to target them. There is no way to protect against that. They will be there, allowed to be close and expected to be armed. I just saw a report that said Biden is switching over ALL of the secret service. Usually they are apolitical and roll over to the new president, but there are so many Trump sycophants in the SS that Biden is getting rid of them and getting some new ones and getting some that served while he was VP. I'm assuming they will be hired before the inauguration. As for assassination attempts on Biden and Harris, that's the last thing the right wing nuts want because then Pelosi becomes President is she is worse than both of them put together. (Told to me by my trump loving dh. He also thinks the only reason they want to invoke the 25th is so that Biden can step down and have Harris be President because she is Pelosi's puppet. I know, I know. I bit my tongue so hard. But there's some Republican intel for ya. Lol) Man, the restraint that must have taken! I’ll just say that our house was not a quiet place between 2016, when DH was thinking of and voted for Trump, and 2018 where he voted Democrat for the first time in his life. ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/roflmao.gif) The embarrassing sources, the crap that man was convinced of and was trying to get me to believe, damn. The words “women want abortions for Valentine’s Day” actually fell from his lips. Are you #&@*#”@ kidding me? This (highly intelligent but apparently susceptible and unable/unwilling to question his sources) man...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 4:21:45 GMT
I just saw a report that said Biden is switching over ALL of the secret service. Usually they are apolitical and roll over to the new president, but there are so many Trump sycophants in the SS that Biden is getting rid of them and getting some new ones and getting some that served while he was VP. I'm assuming they will be hired before the inauguration. As for assassination attempts on Biden and Harris, that's the last thing the right wing nuts want because then Pelosi becomes President is she is worse than both of them put together. (Told to me by my trump loving dh. He also thinks the only reason they want to invoke the 25th is so that Biden can step down and have Harris be President because she is Pelosi's puppet. I know, I know. I bit my tongue so hard. But there's some Republican intel for ya. Lol) Man, the restraint that must have taken! I’ll just say that our house was not a quiet place between 2016, when DH was thinking of and voted for Trump, and 2018 where he voted Democrat for the first time in his life. ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/roflmao.gif) The embarrassing sources, the crap that man was convinced of and was trying to get me to believe, damn. The words “women want abortions for Valentine’s Day” actually fell from his lips. Are you #&@*#”@ kidding me? This (highly intelligent but apparently susceptible and unable/unwilling to question his sources) man... Thank you. Yes there has been a lot of restraint for the past 4+ years!! I do have to give him credit because he also restrains himself. We've argued and debated a bit but I refused to allow trump to get in between my marriage. We both listen to each other's opinion, disagree, lightly debate and then move on. Unfortunately he is also highly intelligent but refuses to question his sources (fox news). I admit, that tidbit about Pelosi was shocking to hear but I had to keep mum so I can get more info later on. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg)
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2021 4:29:30 GMT
@foxy we appreciate your service and your dedication will be well rewarded.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 17:45:35 GMT
@foxy we appreciate your service and your dedication will be well rewarded. ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/giggle.gif) ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/rofl.gif)
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Post by zztop11 on Jan 10, 2021 19:01:39 GMT
I personally think the best thing Biden can do for this country is not back down and return to our time honored traditions as quickly as possible. Granted, there may be a bullet proof bubble over the area of the Capitol where President Biden and guest are seated, but we need to return to normal. According to my sister who is a professor and is very knowledgeable about all of this, you are correct. She thinks this is how it will be done.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 10, 2021 22:46:01 GMT
Man, the restraint that must have taken! I’ll just say that our house was not a quiet place between 2016, when DH was thinking of and voted for Trump, and 2018 where he voted Democrat for the first time in his life. ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/roflmao.gif) The embarrassing sources, the crap that man was convinced of and was trying to get me to believe, damn. The words “women want abortions for Valentine’s Day” actually fell from his lips. Are you #&@*#”@ kidding me? This (highly intelligent but apparently susceptible and unable/unwilling to question his sources) man... Thank you. Yes there has been a lot of restraint for the past 4+ years!! I do have to give him credit because he also restrains himself. We've argued and debated a bit but I refused to allow trump to get in between my marriage. We both listen to each other's opinion, disagree, lightly debate and then move on. Unfortunately he is also highly intelligent but refuses to question his sources (fox news). I admit, that tidbit about Pelosi was shocking to hear but I had to keep mum so I can get more info later on. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) I'm like this with my highly intelligent father (a man who voted for Trump not once but twice). For the life of me I couldn't understand how he could believe the lies. He has been a life long Republican and at 81 years of age is still working full time in IT. He has told me he doesn't like Trump at all but in this last election he still voted for him over Biden. He also watches fox news. When we do talk politics we too listen to each other's opinion, and then agree to disagree. I am so grateful that I still can have the wonderful bond that we have always shared (I'm a true daddy's girl) and not let politics divide us. I don't know if I could have done it had he been my husband. I applaud you both for all of your strength, perseverance, and patience over the past few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 1:43:55 GMT
Thank you. Yes there has been a lot of restraint for the past 4+ years!! I do have to give him credit because he also restrains himself. We've argued and debated a bit but I refused to allow trump to get in between my marriage. We both listen to each other's opinion, disagree, lightly debate and then move on. Unfortunately he is also highly intelligent but refuses to question his sources (fox news). I admit, that tidbit about Pelosi was shocking to hear but I had to keep mum so I can get more info later on. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) I'm like this with my highly intelligent father (a man who voted for Trump not once but twice). For the life of me I couldn't understand how he could believe the lies. He has been a life long Republican and at 81 years of age is still working full time in IT. He has told me he doesn't like Trump at all but in this last election he still voted for him over Biden. He also watches fox news. When we do talk politics we too listen to each other's opinion, and then agree to disagree. I am so grateful that I still can have the wonderful bond that we have always shared (I'm a true daddy's girl) and not let politics divide us. I don't know if I could have done it had he been my husband. I applaud you both for all of your strength, perseverance, and patience over the past few years. My Dad is also a 2 time trump voter and fox news watcher. I adore my father so I rarely, if ever, bring up politics. It does break my heart that he is one of the brainwashed ones but there's nothing I can say at this point to change his mind. Love over politics is my motto.
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Post by Jili on Jan 11, 2021 6:30:36 GMT
I'm like this with my highly intelligent father (a man who voted for Trump not once but twice). For the life of me I couldn't understand how he could believe the lies. He has been a life long Republican and at 81 years of age is still working full time in IT. He has told me he doesn't like Trump at all but in this last election he still voted for him over Biden. He also watches fox news. When we do talk politics we too listen to each other's opinion, and then agree to disagree. I am so grateful that I still can have the wonderful bond that we have always shared (I'm a true daddy's girl) and not let politics divide us. I don't know if I could have done it had he been my husband. I applaud you both for all of your strength, perseverance, and patience over the past few years. My Dad is also a 2 time trump voter and fox news watcher. I adore my father so I rarely, if ever, bring up politics. It does break my heart that he is one of the brainwashed ones but there's nothing I can say at this point to change his mind. Love over politics is my motto. I’m in more or less the same position. My mom too, unfortunately. I can’t grasp it— they used to be Democrats. Heck, there was a time my father liked Hillary! He voted for Obama the first time (maybe both times). I’m not sure when/why it all changed. Now he sits and watches Fox News all day and ranting. I never bring up politics, though he occasionally tries to bait me, and I admit that I can fall for it. It’s hard. I try to think love over politics, too. I haven’t talked to him all week. Just a few benign texts on our family group chat. I’m wondering about his thoughts on this whole past week but I’ll never ask.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 15:59:43 GMT
My Dad is also a 2 time trump voter and fox news watcher. I adore my father so I rarely, if ever, bring up politics. It does break my heart that he is one of the brainwashed ones but there's nothing I can say at this point to change his mind. Love over politics is my motto. I’m in more or less the same position. My mom too, unfortunately. I can’t grasp it— they used to be Democrats. Heck, there was a time my father liked Hillary! He voted for Obama the first time (maybe both times). I’m not sure when/why it all changed. Now he sits and watches Fox News all day and ranting. I never bring up politics, though he occasionally tries to bait me, and I admit that I can fall for it. It’s hard. I try to think love over politics, too. I haven’t talked to him all week. Just a few benign texts on our family group chat. I’m wondering about his thoughts on this whole past week but I’ll never ask. I'll never ask either because I know I'd be opening a box of worms. I had read a great article a while ago about the progression of TV and it has affected my parents' generation. It gave a theory on why Fox news has such a stronghold on some of them and how it basically brainwashed them. If you're interested I could try to find it.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 11, 2021 16:21:22 GMT
Swear him in privately on a livestream feed with his family and his dogs.
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Post by schizo319 on Jan 11, 2021 17:44:14 GMT
CNN said this morning that they will be sworn in in the same place the president is always sworn in. DH said he heard that 7K national guard troops will be there, I don't know that that eases my fears or makes them worse (do we know for a fact that NONE of those 7K are sympathizers?).
I did read from a guy who predicted the capitol attack that he thought there wouldn't be any issues in DC, but that the state capitols had better be ready. I don't know if that eases my mind or not.
I honestly don't know if my mind will ever be at ease again. I went out to a store yesterday and found myself looking at everyone there and wondering how they felt about last week, whether they were on the side of the traitorous insurrectionists or not (I live in Trump country). It was a really unsettling feeling and I'm not sure if I will trust my neighbors again. I've long disagreed with my neighbors politically, but until recently I never thought that any of them wished me dead - now, I'm not so sure of that anymore.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 11, 2021 19:34:19 GMT
I’m in more or less the same position. My mom too, unfortunately. I can’t grasp it— they used to be Democrats. Heck, there was a time my father liked Hillary! He voted for Obama the first time (maybe both times). I’m not sure when/why it all changed. Now he sits and watches Fox News all day and ranting. I never bring up politics, though he occasionally tries to bait me, and I admit that I can fall for it. It’s hard. I try to think love over politics, too. I haven’t talked to him all week. Just a few benign texts on our family group chat. I’m wondering about his thoughts on this whole past week but I’ll never ask. I'll never ask either because I know I'd be opening a box of worms. I had read a great article a while ago about the progression of TV and it has affected my parents' generation. It gave a theory on why Fox news has such a stronghold on some of them and how it basically brainwashed them. If you're interested I could try to find it. I would love to read that article Foxy if you can find it.
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Post by karenk on Jan 11, 2021 22:17:59 GMT
Have any of you seen the series Designated Survivor? Is is chilling and so appropriate now. It has me scared to death.
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