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Post by zztop11 on Jan 9, 2021 12:58:44 GMT
I'm wondering if they will move the Presidential Inauguration to a safer place? Between what is going on, the chance for another uprising and covid, I bet that they do. We know it doesn't have to be public from when Johnson became president in the airplane. I think it's a good idea. What say the peas?
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Post by Tamhugh on Jan 9, 2021 13:09:38 GMT
I hope that they do. I am very anxious about the inauguration and the safety of not just Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, but also the former Presidents who will attend.
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Post by gar on Jan 9, 2021 13:19:33 GMT
It would seem to be the most sensible thing to do.
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Post by quinlove on Jan 9, 2021 15:48:30 GMT
No offense to OP, but, is this even a question ?
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Post by dewryce on Jan 9, 2021 15:50:32 GMT
Did I just dream up that the inauguration was no longer open to the public?
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Post by desertgirl on Jan 9, 2021 15:52:20 GMT
Biden's plan is to take the TRAIN!!! from Wilmington to DC. What a perfect opportunity for assassination! Please come to your senses, Mr. President-Elect.
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Post by deafpea on Jan 9, 2021 15:55:35 GMT
Prudence would dictate that doing everything possible to ensure the safety of all would be the proper thing to do.
On the other hand, what message would it send? Not just to the American people, but to the world?
But I don't want us to be cowering in fear.
So I don't know what the right thing to do is.
I just pray it will all go well.
Merilee
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Post by sasha on Jan 9, 2021 16:17:43 GMT
I hope so. I really fear these crazy loons are going to try to do the worst.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 9, 2021 16:29:06 GMT
I think Pres elect Biden will not want to look like he’s hiding and will want to project American strength and continuity. I hope there will be an unprecedented level of security along with COVID modifications. There already won’t be the parade/balls/out of the limo walk etc.
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Post by zztop11 on Jan 9, 2021 16:38:20 GMT
No offense to OP, but, is this even a question ? Yes, it's a question. Maybe I should have added "to an indoor spot". What is your response now? |
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Post by myshelly on Jan 9, 2021 16:39:55 GMT
No offense to OP, but, is this even a question ? How is it not a question? |
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Post by quinlove on Jan 9, 2021 16:52:35 GMT
I’m truly sorry if my post came across accusatory. Not my intention at all. Given the recent events in Washington DC , I would think it was a *no brainer* that it would be in a safe place. Again, sorry if I was not clearer in my post.
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Post by Just T on Jan 9, 2021 17:27:31 GMT
I hope so. And I think it should not be open to the public. Sad for Biden and Harris to not be able to have the usual pomp and circumstance, but I don't trust the crazies out there.
On CNN this morning, they showed a tweet or some kind of post from one of the crazies who said they don't even care about keeping Trump in power at this point, all they care about is war. Did anyone else see that???
That is the kind of shit that scares me.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 9, 2021 17:29:57 GMT
I’m truly sorry if my post came across accusatory. Not my intention at all. Given the recent events in Washington DC , I would think it was a *no brainer* that it would be in a safe place. Again, sorry if I was not clearer in my post. Well considering how unprepared they were this week I think it’s a valid question. To me it was a no brainer that they had extra security this week. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 9, 2021 17:31:17 GMT
I hope so. And I think it should not be open to the public. Sad for Biden and Harris to not be able to have the usual pomp and circumstance, but I don't trust the crazies out there. On CNN this morning, they showed a tweet or some kind of post from one of the crazies who said they don't even care about keeping Trump in power at this point, all they care about is war. Did anyone else see that??? That is the kind of shit that scares me. That is really scary. |
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Post by librarylady on Jan 9, 2021 20:47:45 GMT
I think I heard that the swearing in ceremony was moving to a different porch but was still going to be outside.
I am worried as well. Snipers can be far away..........
I do recall that when Obama was sworn in there were officers on the roof of every building in the area and there was high security.
This administration has no concept of high security.
I am concerned about the police who seemed to open the gates for the mob on Wednesday...
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Post by georgiapea on Jan 9, 2021 20:52:58 GMT
If it isn't moved, everyone watching on TV will be holding their breath. Some out of concern for our new President, others in anticipation. I so hope it's moved to a safe, secure location.
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Post by elaine on Jan 9, 2021 20:59:52 GMT
I, personally, would like to see it moved to a local military base, like Andrews AFB. You don’t have military ID or aren’t on a specific list to get in that day, the guards at the gate aren’t letting you on base.
It would be easiest to control access and keep out the seditionists on one of the bases.
While I don’t like having to change plans due to terrorist threats - giving them the power to disrupt things - I personally think that a peaceful uninterrupted inauguration is more important than putting up a strong face.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 9, 2021 21:04:21 GMT
If it isn't moved, everyone watching on TV will be holding their breath. Some out of concern for our new President, others in anticipation. I so hope it's moved to a safe, secure location. And secret. I hope also that it's moved to a safe, secure and secret location. Honestly at this point I'm extremely concerned for the lives of Biden and Harris, and their families. As we were clearly shown on Jan. 6th these criminals aren't logical or have the slightest fear of breaking the law. Those two reasons make them far more dangerous than your average criminal. I'm scared and angry that the same DC police force who willingly participated (letting the criminals into the Capital, taking selfies with them, escorting them out and letting them go) on Jan. 6th's events would be the same police force in charge on Jan. 20! Who the hell thinks that's a great or remotely safe idea? I'd be much happier with a security force from the National Guard. |
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Post by birukitty on Jan 9, 2021 21:07:05 GMT
I, personally, would like to see it moved to a local military base, like Andrews AFB. You don’t have military ID or aren’t on a specific list to get in that day, the guards at the gate aren’t letting you on base. It would be easiest to control access and keep out the seditionists on one of the bases. While I don’t like having to change plans due to terrorist threats - giving them the power to disrupt things - I personally think that a peaceful uninterrupted inauguration is more important than putting up a strong face. This sounds like a great idea Elaine. I grew up with a father in the Army (until I was 12) and was married for a time to a US Naval officer. The security on our US bases and bases around the world are very tight. If you don't have the correct ID you aren't getting past the main gate-period. Unless you want to end up in handcuffs. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 9, 2021 21:24:22 GMT
I, personally, would like to see it moved to a local military base, like Andrews AFB. You don’t have military ID or aren’t on a specific list to get in that day, the guards at the gate aren’t letting you on base. It would be easiest to control access and keep out the seditionists on one of the bases. While I don’t like having to change plans due to terrorist threats - giving them the power to disrupt things - I personally think that a peaceful uninterrupted inauguration is more important than putting up a strong face. This sounds like a great idea Elaine. I grew up with a father in the Army (until I was 12) and was married for a time to a US Naval officer. The security on our US bases and bases around the world are very tight. If you don't have the correct ID you aren't getting past the main gate-period. Unless you want to end up in handcuffs. Yes, and things have gotten even tighter in the past few years. Even on bases like Walter Reed, where there aren’t many military activities beyond medical treatment and education, they have barriers that they can and will raise up out of the ground blocking the roads in and out of the base, the perimeters of which which are all surrounded by fencing and walls. The military police at the gates of military bases don’t take any grief. No one, I mean NO ONE, is talking their way in. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 9, 2021 22:02:06 GMT
If it isn't moved, everyone watching on TV will be holding their breath. Some out of concern for our new President, others in anticipation. I so hope it's moved to a safe, secure location. I agree. I am incredibly scared for Biden and Harris. And I know it is just superstitious (I’m not superstitious, I’m just a little sitious) or coincidental occurrence, but it is creepy that Biden was elected in 2020 and every President elected in a year ending in zero since Lincoln has had an assassination attempt. I want Biden and Harris just carted around in bullet proof clear boxes for the next long bit. |
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Post by Just T on Jan 9, 2021 22:04:21 GMT
If it isn't moved, everyone watching on TV will be holding their breath. Some out of concern for our new President, others in anticipation. I so hope it's moved to a safe, secure location. I agree. I am incredibly scared for Biden and Harris. And I know it is just superstitious (I’m not superstitious, I’m just a little sitious) or coincidental occurrence, but it is creepy that Biden was elected in 2020 and every President elected in a year ending in zero since Lincoln has had an assassination attempt. I want Biden and Harris just carted around in bullet proof clear boxes for the next long bit. Yikes. I didn't know that! Was there an assassination attempt on GWBush? I don't remember that. |
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Post by myshelly on Jan 9, 2021 22:07:34 GMT
I agree. I am incredibly scared for Biden and Harris. And I know it is just superstitious (I’m not superstitious, I’m just a little sitious) or coincidental occurrence, but it is creepy that Biden was elected in 2020 and every President elected in a year ending in zero since Lincoln has had an assassination attempt. I want Biden and Harris just carted around in bullet proof clear boxes for the next long bit. Yikes. I didn't know that! Was there an assassination attempt on GWBush? I don't remember that. According to google, there was one in 2005 when a grenade was thrown at him during a speech. The grenade failed to detonate. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Arutyunian |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 9, 2021 22:11:02 GMT
I agree. I am incredibly scared for Biden and Harris. And I know it is just superstitious (I’m not superstitious, I’m just a little sitious) or coincidental occurrence, but it is creepy that Biden was elected in 2020 and every President elected in a year ending in zero since Lincoln has had an assassination attempt. I want Biden and Harris just carted around in bullet proof clear boxes for the next long bit. Yikes. I didn't know that! Was there an assassination attempt on GWBush? I don't remember that. On 9/11 the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was thought to be heading to the WH. And the grenade incident myshelly posted about. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 9, 2021 22:15:30 GMT
I have such mixed emotions. The safety of Biden/Harris is obviously the absolute priority. I am sickened at the idea that we do not have the ability to have some semblance of a normal inauguration at the Capitol and also protect them. It was already hugely limited because of COVID. I defer to the secret service in what has to be done to protect the new President and Vice President, but will confess to being damn mad that they're taking this away us as well.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 9, 2021 22:23:57 GMT
I don't think I ever heard about the grenade incident. To be honest, at this point when you look at things like that I doubt there hasn't been an assassination attempt on every president since Reagan. It's crazy times. I remember the legend of the Curse of Tippecanoe and each president dying in office every 20 years - these were NOT all assassinations several died of natural causes including Harrison and FDR. It was kinda freaky through Reagan as he was freaking shot. But with GWB surviving I'm hopeful Biden will have a healthy term.
ETA If you're like me and wanted to remember incidences:
1840 William Henry Harrison typhoid
1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
1880 James Garfield Assassinated
1900 William McKinley Assassinated
1920 William Harding heart attack
1940 Franklin Roosevel hemorrhage
1960 John Kennedy Assassinated
It was a pretty eerie pattern before Reagan and GWB
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Post by nlwilkins on Jan 9, 2021 22:30:15 GMT
I, personally, would like to see it moved to a local military base, like Andrews AFB. You don’t have military ID or aren’t on a specific list to get in that day, the guards at the gate aren’t letting you on base. It would be easiest to control access and keep out the seditionists on one of the bases. While I don’t like having to change plans due to terrorist threats - giving them the power to disrupt things - I personally think that a peaceful uninterrupted inauguration is more important than putting up a strong face.
I would hate for our military to have to fire on civilians - cause you know that would be the only thing that would stop a mob like that.
I don't know what the answer is, but know that it should be held in a secure location where the mobs cannot barge in.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 9, 2021 23:27:28 GMT
I don't think I ever heard about the grenade incident. To be honest, at this point when you look at things like that I doubt there hasn't been an assassination attempt on every president since Reagan. It's crazy times. I remember the legend of the Curse of Tippecanoe and each president dying in office every 20 years - these were NOT all assassinations several died of natural causes including Harrison and FDR. It was kinda freaky through Reagan as he was freaking shot. But with GWB surviving I'm hopeful Biden will have a healthy term. ETA If you're like me and wanted to remember incidences: 1840 William Henry Harrison typhoid 1860 Abraham Lincoln Assassinated 1880 James Garfield Assassinated 1900 William McKinley Assassinated 1920 William Harding heart attack 1940 Franklin Roosevel hemorrhage 1960 John Kennedy Assassinated It was a pretty eerie pattern before Reagan and GWB There is speculation that Harding was poisoned and since his widow (who was suspected of the poisoning due to his affair) wouldn’t allow an autopsy. The cause of death was listed as a stroke or a heart attack. His doctor said one thing, another doctor said another. He had been ill for a week or so. FDR was shot at a week or so before his inauguration. He survived, but someone else was killed and several others wounded. I don’t remember the specifics of that one as well as I remember the Harding case. We discussed this quite deeply in HS government class, so my memory may be foggy. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 10, 2021 1:13:44 GMT
The only reason I am not convinced a military base is the best would be because so many veterans were involved in the insurection. Now you could say active duty are different from veterans, but it only takes one day to move from the former to the later. So I am just skeptical, but have no better plan. But they can easily close down a military base and not allow any veterans on base unless they are “on the list.” The same with active duty, actually. If they want to, they can limit the active duty who also can come on base. Just because I have a military ID doesn’t mean that I can have access to any military base at any time that I want to. |
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