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Post by elaine on Jan 14, 2021 3:08:51 GMT
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I actually received a government research grant to study the psychological profiles of terrorists in 2002. I’m sorry if my post comes off as a rationalization or excuse to you - just sharing knowledge. I think that kind of research is important. Thanks for sharing. I’m referring to the comments that they feel sorry for him or question his sanity — I think these people are largely sane in the sense they know exactly what they’re doing and why. They just don’t believe they will ever be held accountable 👍🏻 I certainly don’t feel sorry for him and think that he was probably troubled, but certainly not insane. I also agree that he never thought he would negatively been held accountable - he probably envisioned that he would be glorified, like many terrorists do when committing acts of terrorism. That is the great brainwash. Hence his suicide, which I doubt will be the last, when the Trump-insurrectionists are pursued by legal authorities and no one swoops in to help/rescue them. |
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Post by miominmio on Jan 14, 2021 12:36:27 GMT
I think that kind of research is important. Thanks for sharing. I’m referring to the comments that they feel sorry for him or question his sanity — I think these people are largely sane in the sense they know exactly what they’re doing and why. They just don’t believe they will ever be held accountable 👍🏻 I certainly don’t feel sorry for him and think that he was probably troubled, but certainly not insane. I also agree that he never thought he would negatively been held accountable - he probably envisioned that he would be glorified, like many terrorists do when committing acts of terrorism. That is the great brainwash. Hence his suicide, which I doubt will be the last, when the Trump-insurrectionists are pursued by legal authorities and no one swoops in to help/rescue them. It is strange that Trump hasn’t issued a blanket pardon for the rioters. I would’ve thought he would have done that, of not before, then certainly after the riot. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 14, 2021 12:45:25 GMT
👍🏻 I certainly don’t feel sorry for him and think that he was probably troubled, but certainly not insane. I also agree that he never thought he would negatively been held accountable - he probably envisioned that he would be glorified, like many terrorists do when committing acts of terrorism. That is the great brainwash. Hence his suicide, which I doubt will be the last, when the Trump-insurrectionists are pursued by legal authorities and no one swoops in to help/rescue them. It is strange that Trump hasn’t issued a blanket pardon for the rioters. I would’ve thought he would have done that, of not before, then certainly after the riot. Legally, I think it is like pardoning himself. If he pardons the rioters, he is actually admitting that they committed criminal acts. If he publicly declares them guilty in that manner, he makes himself more vulnerable to lawsuits claiming that he is responsible for inciting those acts that even he found criminal enough to deserve a pardon. I will guess that he probably has wanted to pardon some of them - not the ones he finds “low class” - but his lawyers and handlers are preventing him by hammering in the legal ramifications. It is the same reason he hasn’t pardoned himself yet. Once he pardons himself, he admits to being guilty of something that deserves a pardon and opens himself up for civil and state lawsuits (he can only pardon himself from federal prosecution). ETA: CNN is saying right now that they expect that Trump will start issuing pardons today to deflect the national dialogue from his impeachment, so I may be wrong. I guess that we wait and see who he is going to pardon and for what. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 14, 2021 14:20:59 GMT
I suspect it’s both. For simplicity, these two groups are the guys Trump wants on his golf courses and the guys he would demand be fired if he caught a glimpse of them washing his golf carts. I had a history prof whose one enduring theme was that revolutions throughout history were germinated and nourished by a small group of well-off, highly-educated, dissatisfied, idealist young men. Well-read radicals with resources. But then revolution flourishes, handily, because these men also needed the convenience and protection of a rabble. Just like generals and soldiers. (What stood out to me in this article is that Trump Patriot Fever is so high among high-income people without college degrees. Education is certainly not everything, but it’s interesting to note the trend. Combine it with the “education” of social media and the daily denigration of “elites” and specialists, and we’ve got our growing national political illiteracy: people crying socialism who couldn’t define it; people who prefer hearsay to primary sources; people who use the laughably implausible term “radical liberals” - actually, people who have so little understanding of the word “radical” that they don’t understand that they, and their leader, are much closer to radical than those they regularly brand.) |
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