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Post by Really Red on Jan 13, 2021 14:45:34 GMT
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Post by elaine on Jan 13, 2021 14:47:56 GMT
I heard about this yesterday on CNN and was just floored by all the evidence of their complicity. I sincerely hope that justice will prevail and that they will face federal sedition charges.
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Post by julie5 on Jan 13, 2021 14:50:58 GMT
I cannot believe this is our nation. I should also add my complicitness. By not paying attention. I looked the other way so I wouldn’t have to deal with it. I’m so sickened by all of this.
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Post by peabay on Jan 13, 2021 14:53:00 GMT
I'm amazed I'm shocked. I am.
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Post by sueg on Jan 13, 2021 14:55:33 GMT
Someone posted this in another thread: That should cover removing them from Congress, as I can't see how this can be construed as anything other than a rebellion or insurrection. Then, they should be charged with treason.
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Post by schizo319 on Jan 13, 2021 15:06:57 GMT
I cannot believe this is our nation. I should also add my complicitness. By not paying attention. I looked the other way so I wouldn’t have to deal with it. I’m so sickened by all of this. Please cut yourself a break. Unless you voted for Trump and actively supported his administration and his lies (either deliberately or in "good faith"), you are not complicit. WE ALL deserve the right to step away and take care of our mental health - you should feel no guilt for that. I think a lot of us are feeling like we should have done more. I know that I have felt that way, but when I step back and look at it objectively, I did everything that I was capable of doing within the confines of democracy and the law. I voted, contacted my representatives, and donated what I could to candidates that I believe in. There was nothing more that I as a private citizen could have done to change what has happened.
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Post by julie5 on Jan 13, 2021 15:10:42 GMT
I cannot believe this is our nation. I should also add my complicitness. By not paying attention. I looked the other way so I wouldn’t have to deal with it. I’m so sickened by all of this. Please cut yourself a break. Unless you voted for Trump and actively supported his administration and his lies (either deliberately or in "good faith"), you are not complicit. WE ALL deserve the right to step away and take care of our mental health - you should feel no guilt for that. I think a lot of us are feeling like we should have done more. I know that I have felt that way, but when I step back and look at it objectively, I did everything that I was capable of doing within the confines of democracy and the law. I voted, contacted my representatives, and donated what I could to candidates that I believe in. There was nothing more that I as a private citizen could have done to change what has happened. Aww thank you for that. And no I did NOT vote for him. But I did belittle people here on this board.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 13, 2021 15:10:54 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching.
The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters.
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Post by schizo319 on Jan 13, 2021 15:19:31 GMT
Please cut yourself a break. Unless you voted for Trump and actively supported his administration and his lies (either deliberately or in "good faith"), you are not complicit. WE ALL deserve the right to step away and take care of our mental health - you should feel no guilt for that. I think a lot of us are feeling like we should have done more. I know that I have felt that way, but when I step back and look at it objectively, I did everything that I was capable of doing within the confines of democracy and the law. I voted, contacted my representatives, and donated what I could to candidates that I believe in. There was nothing more that I as a private citizen could have done to change what has happened. Aww thank you for that. And no I did NOT vote for him. But I did belittle people here on this board. The fact that you are feeling badly about that only proves that you are a kind and decent human being. Not that my opinion means squat, but I'm not going to vilify you for blowing off steam here. Hang in there.
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Post by peano on Jan 13, 2021 15:23:24 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching. The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters. Watched an Instagram video of AOC saying she was traumatized by an experience the day of the attack that she can’t divulge because of security concerns. She further stated that she felt very unsafe being with “white supremacist” members of Congress in the safe room they were led to—afraid they would divulge her location. She said Pressley actually left the room out of those same concerns. epeanymous, I so agree with your assessment in your first paragraph. There’s a part of me that cannot grasp that the violent attack on our Capitol is the same as all the violent attacks on governments around the world I’ve been watching my entire life. I had the childish belief the US was magically inoculated from all that.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 13, 2021 15:27:41 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching. The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters. I saw that, and the implications are terrifying. Panic buttons ripped out
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 13, 2021 15:27:56 GMT
Mo Brooks? The same Mo Brooks who claimed he slept on the floor of his House office for the four nights before January 6 because Capitol police warned him it would be dangerous to go home? Cause Antifa? THAT Mo Brooks?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 13, 2021 15:34:50 GMT
What the Republican Party is:
A bunch of fucking hypocrites to the “nth”degree
Whining crybaby snowflakes
Seditious traitors to our country
Rule breakers, rules don’t apply to me, I don’t have to follow the rules
Epic liars
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 13, 2021 15:39:47 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching. The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters. WOW... Disgusting! She is a sharp cookie. I like her!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 13, 2021 16:04:27 GMT
I literally shaking reading this thread. Mikie Sherell (D-NJ) brought up that she saw people being escorted by members of Congress in places they are not normally going. She has not named them publicaly, if she told authorities or not. Now the possible three complicit members, removal of panic buttons. Two Capital PD officers suspended, up to 17 being investIgating. Some PD officers reported for helping. Police and fire depts investigating their members? Military members and vets? AOC can't talk about what happened to her, assault?!? I have forgotten all the other things, mind is ahead of finger here.
OH.. DOJ FBI said we will be shocked by what they are finding.. Hopefully enough to truly get dt and family..
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Post by flanz on Jan 13, 2021 16:41:26 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching. The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters. wow! hadn't heard that tidbit. FFS
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Post by Really Red on Jan 13, 2021 17:25:05 GMT
Genuinely not surprised. I think that we have underplayed the rhetoric and tried not to think we were watching what we were watching. The detail I am really fixated on is that when Ayanna Pressley went to her office, she discovered that the panic button had been removed. Not by the rioters. I saw that, and the implications are terrifying. Panic buttons ripped outOh.My.God I cannot believe this is our nation. I should also add my complicitness. By not paying attention. I looked the other way so I wouldn’t have to deal with it. I’m so sickened by all of this. The thing is, this is so unbelievable, that if it were in a movie we watched in 1999, we wouldn't have believed it.
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Post by *KAS* on Jan 13, 2021 18:45:18 GMT
Not that I'm saying this couldn't happen - literally nothing surprised me these days, sadly. But the only source for this story is this convicted felon crazy pants Trump supporter? No actual proof of this, other than him saying it, and one of the guys saying he doesn't think he's ever heard of or talked to him before?
Again, I'm not saying it's a false story, but it should be something easily verifiable, so I'd rather have at least one legitimate source to confirm this. Unless I missed it (I skimmed, to be fair, so that is possible!).
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Post by elaine on Jan 13, 2021 19:15:28 GMT
Not that I'm saying this couldn't happen - literally nothing surprised me these days, sadly. But the only source for this story is this convicted felon crazy pants Trump supporter? No actual proof of this, other than him saying it, and one of the guys saying he doesn't think he's ever heard of or talked to him before? Again, I'm not saying it's a false story, but it should be something easily verifiable, so I'd rather have at least one legitimate source to confirm this. Unless I missed it (I skimmed, to be fair, so that is possible!). No, there is more. There is a “video message from Biggs, calling him (Alexander) a “friend” and “hero” and that was played at a large Stop the Steal rally. Alexander then tweeted that video and Trump himself retweeted it. Biggs never claimed it was a falsely manufactured video. Yet, now he is claiming to never have heard of him. Okay, then.
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Post by scorpeao on Jan 13, 2021 19:57:10 GMT
Let's not forget about that Lauren chick from Colorado who was tweeting Pelosi's location.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jan 13, 2021 19:59:41 GMT
OH.. DOJ FBI said we will be shocked by what they are finding.. Hopefully enough to truly get dt and family I cannot WAIT to hear these details. As much as this whole thing guts me, as a history major and history geek, I am in great wonder at being alive during this thoroughly modern version of both the test of our democracy and the ludicrous, soap opera-esqueness of these events.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 13, 2021 20:12:58 GMT
Paul Gosar is the one where ALL his brothers and sisters did an ad against him as a candidate two years ago. Saying how bad he was. Sime of them were on CNN or was GMA3 earlier today. Talking about then and his possible involvement in the Capitol attack.. Not one said he would not do it!!!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 13, 2021 20:13:13 GMT
i cant read the article. hopefully another comes out with details.
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Post by bc2ca on Jan 13, 2021 20:21:18 GMT
I can't believe GOP gaslighting statements are still being made on the House floor as this information is coming out.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jan 13, 2021 21:40:23 GMT
I can't believe GOP gaslighting statements are still being made on the House floor as this information is coming out. They're probably pretty confident that their folks don't check multiple news sources for validation. And, so far, the lie torrent has worked for them; why would they stop now?
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