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Post by pjaye on Jan 23, 2021 1:33:53 GMT
It seems JoJo Siwa is gradually coming out as gay, although she officially hasn't said those words herself yet. She posted herself singing to GaGa's Born This Way with the word ""No matter gay, straight or bi, lesbian transgender life / I'm on the right track baby, I was born to survive." and then posted herself wearing a T-shirt that says "best gay cousin ever" Now I'm definitely not in her target demographic and I don't watch anything she does (I've seen some short clips and I did see her on an episode of Googlebox) but I do know who she is, and the massive following she has. That's a big step for 17yo and such a positive thing for thing for all those young people who look up to her and admire her, and for her fans that identify as being LGBT+ themselves, to see someone in her position acknowledging their sexuality. It's so important for those kids to have people in the public eye they can identify with. I've always been involved with the LGBT+ community in my personal life and at work as well, and I know how difficult coming out is for some of them, and to have the added pressure of her 'brand' and business must make it even harder for her. So it seems like she's doing it a bit more gradually, small steps at a time. I'm glad she feels safe & supported enough to do this now and I'm happy for those fans that will be positively impacted by her coming out.
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Post by MichyM on Jan 23, 2021 1:55:05 GMT
I have no idea who she is, but good for her. I’m always happy to see people feeling comfortable living their lives as their authentic selves.
Signed Mother of a gay son
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Post by pjaye on Jan 23, 2021 2:02:48 GMT
I have no idea who she is, but good for her. I’m always happy to see people feeling comfortable living their lives as their authentic selves. She started with those big bows (which I personally don't like, but I'm not a tween girl anymore!) and went from there, someone commented that her products outsold Stare Wars products last year - so her business is HUGE. Knowing how the world still works, I'm sure there were some old bigoted executives that tried to talk her out of it for the good of her 'brand' but I'm glad she didn't listen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 2:41:44 GMT
She also did a tictok video with some of the cast of a Disney movie who are LGBTQ+ and they said welcome to the club or something like that.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Jan 23, 2021 8:17:17 GMT
OMG, I can hear my neighbors', the Trumpsters', heads exploding clear across the street. Their elementary-school-aged daughter/granddaughter is a huge fan and they've all made such a big deal about JoJo, going to concerts, making posters, wearing the apparel and bows, etc. My guess is there will be no more JoJo worship in that house. If only it were summer, we could hear all about it. On second thought, thank heavens it's winter and we don't have to hear all about it.
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Post by KelleeM on Jan 23, 2021 12:36:20 GMT
My soon to be five year old granddaughter is a fan. She is being raised by a pan sexual mom in a home where we frequently reinforce that you can love whomever you love. She doesn’t see skin color either. Her best friend is black and they call themselves “twinnsies”. I’m hopeful for her future and her generation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 13:39:42 GMT
OMG, I can hear my neighbors', the Trumpsters', heads exploding clear across the street. Their elementary-school-aged daughter/granddaughter is a huge fan and they've all made such a big deal about JoJo, going to concerts, making posters, wearing the apparel and bows, etc. My guess is there will be no more JoJo worship in that house. If only it were summer, we could hear all about it. On second thought, thank heavens it's winter and we don't have to hear all about it. Lots of rightie families are going to start experiencing this. Gen Z is a whole different thing and they don't go in for fear-based, fire-and-brimstone, old-white-guys-telling-us-what's-ok-or-not ideologies. They support each other andvalidate each other, and are more mature in their teens than many of their parents are in the 40s/50s (Conway family, looking at you). The next 10 years will be VERY interesting for them.
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Post by peabay on Jan 23, 2021 13:52:36 GMT
OMG, I can hear my neighbors', the Trumpsters', heads exploding clear across the street. Their elementary-school-aged daughter/granddaughter is a huge fan and they've all made such a big deal about JoJo, going to concerts, making posters, wearing the apparel and bows, etc. My guess is there will be no more JoJo worship in that house. If only it were summer, we could hear all about it. On second thought, thank heavens it's winter and we don't have to hear all about it. Lots of rightie families are going to start experiencing this. Gen Z is a whole different thing and they don't go in for fear-based, fire-and-brimstone, old-white-guys-telling-us-what's-ok-or-not ideologies. They support each other andvalidate each other, and are more mature in their teens than many of their parents are in the 40s/50s (Conway family, looking at you). The next 10 years will be VERY interesting for them. I totally agree. These are the kids who grew up seeing all colors, genders, nationalities, attitudes in the palms of their hands. They are so not judgey - unless you aren't open minded, then they are very judgey! Mom of an 18 year old who will now all of a sudden decide she likes Jojo Siwa -mark my words.
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Post by Lexica on Jan 23, 2021 14:18:46 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes.
What I did read that was interesting is that she has traction alopecia from wearing her hair in that tight ponytail. I noticed that one side of her forehead hairline is considerably more receded than the other and see that she tends to wear the ponytail to one side. I didn't know you could cause alopecia by continual pulling on the hair root like that. The good news is that if you stop the causation as soon as you notice the receding hairline, the hair can grow back. The hair follicle will be permanently damaged if continue pulling on it like this. Knowing this, why she doesn't stop the ponytail is beyond me. Yes, I can see it is part of her whole persona, but is it worth a bald forehead for the rest of your life? And a crooked one at that?
I clicked on a Youtube video of James Charles giving her a makeover. In addition to doing her makeup, he took the ponytail out and gave her a cute curled style. I don't know how old she was when she started becoming popular, but as she grows up, I hope she ditches the bows and ponytail for a style that is healthier for her hair. The makeover was really well done. She is a beautiful young woman. Chatty as heck, but very pretty.
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Post by peabay on Jan 23, 2021 14:25:33 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. What I did read that was interesting is that she has traction alopecia from wearing her hair in that tight ponytail. I noticed that one side of her forehead hairline is considerably more receded than the other and see that she tends to wear the ponytail to one side. I didn't know you could cause alopecia by continual pulling on the hair root like that. The good news is that if you stop the causation as soon as you notice the receding hairline, the hair can grow back. The hair follicle will be permanently damaged if continue pulling on it like this. Knowing this, why she doesn't stop the ponytail is beyond me. Yes, I can see it is part of her whole persona, but is it worth a bald forehead for the rest of your life? And a crooked one at that? I clicked on a Youtube video of James Charles giving her a makeover. In addition to doing her makeup, he took the ponytail out and gave her a cute curled style. I don't know how old she was when she started becoming popular, but as she grows up, I hope she ditches the bows and ponytail for a style that is healthier for her hair. The makeover was really well done. She is a beautiful young woman. Chatty as heck, but very pretty. She's 17 years old and very famous. If she wants to go on dates, be in a relationship etc... it's better for her to be the person who announces and "owns" her sexuality, as opposed to TMZ or another gossip rag reporting it. This way it isn't salacious gossip - it just is. She's lucky to be in the time we are - when I was growing up, she'd be thrown together with a gay Disney star as a manufactured "couple" to throw people off the scent. I think it's great she can just be who she is and it was a brave move - I'm sure she'll lose money and fans from it.
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 14:28:15 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. What I did read that was interesting is that she has traction alopecia from wearing her hair in that tight ponytail. I noticed that one side of her forehead hairline is considerably more receded than the other and see that she tends to wear the ponytail to one side. I didn't know you could cause alopecia by continual pulling on the hair root like that. The good news is that if you stop the causation as soon as you notice the receding hairline, the hair can grow back. The hair follicle will be permanently damaged if continue pulling on it like this. Knowing this, why she doesn't stop the ponytail is beyond me. Yes, I can see it is part of her whole persona, but is it worth a bald forehead for the rest of your life? And a crooked one at that? I clicked on a Youtube video of James Charles giving her a makeover. In addition to doing her makeup, he took the ponytail out and gave her a cute curled style. I don't know how old she was when she started becoming popular, but as she grows up, I hope she ditches the bows and ponytail for a style that is healthier for her hair. The makeover was really well done. She is a beautiful young woman. Chatty as heck, but very pretty. Sexuality=private Hairline=public consumption I love this place 🤪🤣🤣🤣
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Post by janeliz on Jan 23, 2021 14:30:40 GMT
Good for her! I always thought she had a fun magnetism and energy. My girls were never into her as a performer, but they both loved Dance Moms once upon a time.
I agree that many teens of today are much more open and mature about sexuality than previous generations. There’s not this automatic assumption that they’re heterosexual and that that’s the only acceptable way to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 14:45:01 GMT
My soon to be five year old granddaughter is a fan. She is being raised by a pan sexual mom in a home where we frequently reinforce that you can love whomever you love. She doesn’t see skin color either. Her best friend is black and they call themselves “twinnsies”. I’m hopeful for her future and her generation. She should though. Skin colors are beautiful. You are dismissing the person, their culture, and who they are if you don't see skin color. I mean I get it, it is with a kind heart but it doesn't help to reduce racism or help anyone overcome obstacles when people say that. See their skin color. See them for who they are. You are choosing to ignore a part of them when you don't see skin color.
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Post by peachiceteas on Jan 23, 2021 14:48:58 GMT
My soon to be five year old granddaughter is a fan. She is being raised by a pan sexual mom in a home where we frequently reinforce that you can love whomever you love. She doesn’t see skin color either. Her best friend is black and they call themselves “twinnsies”. I’m hopeful for her future and her generation. She should though. Skin colors are beautiful. You are dismissing the person, their culture, and who they are if you don't see skin color. I mean I get it, it is with a kind heart but it doesn't help to reduce racism or help anyone overcome obstacles when people say that. See their skin color. See them for who they are. You are choosing to ignore a part of them when you don't see skin color. Is that necessary for four-going-on-five year old though? Kids that age aren't aware enough to know what their own culture is. The most important thing at that age is that they have an understanding that we're all human. It's the foundation for the learning that you've described.
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Post by Really Red on Jan 23, 2021 14:50:14 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. What I did read that was interesting is that she has traction alopecia from wearing her hair in that tight ponytail. I noticed that one side of her forehead hairline is considerably more receded than the other and see that she tends to wear the ponytail to one side. I didn't know you could cause alopecia by continual pulling on the hair root like that. The good news is that if you stop the causation as soon as you notice the receding hairline, the hair can grow back. The hair follicle will be permanently damaged if continue pulling on it like this. Knowing this, why she doesn't stop the ponytail is beyond me. Yes, I can see it is part of her whole persona, but is it worth a bald forehead for the rest of your life? And a crooked one at that? I clicked on a Youtube video of James Charles giving her a makeover. In addition to doing her makeup, he took the ponytail out and gave her a cute curled style. I don't know how old she was when she started becoming popular, but as she grows up, I hope she ditches the bows and ponytail for a style that is healthier for her hair. The makeover was really well done. She is a beautiful young woman. Chatty as heck, but very pretty. I saw her on Dance Moms. Her mom is frightening. The reason this is so important (because like you, I also believe that whatever you want to do is up to you and we all don't have to hear about it) is because SO many LGBTQ youth are struggling. I don't want to make this political, but the political atmosphere over the past 4 years has allowed homophobic people to feel that they can loudly voice their feelings. That same atmosphere has pushed "Christians" to shout their beliefs. Having someone whom kids look up to say it's okay, is SO powerful. My daughters have friends who have died by suicide because their parents didn't accept them (I am sure there are other issues, but this is really tough). My niece works for a big company that is very LGBTQ friendly. She said that when Biden mentioned transgender people in his acceptance speech, people openly wept. They had never - NEVER - been acknowledged before. We simply cannot underestimate that power that celebrities have to empower us. My soon to be five year old granddaughter is a fan. She is being raised by a pan sexual mom in a home where we frequently reinforce that you can love whomever you love. She doesn’t see skin color either. Her best friend is black and they call themselves “twinnsies”. I’m hopeful for her future and her generation. This is just beautiful <3 OMG, I can hear my neighbors', the Trumpsters', heads exploding clear across the street. Their elementary-school-aged daughter/granddaughter is a huge fan and they've all made such a big deal about JoJo, going to concerts, making posters, wearing the apparel and bows, etc. My guess is there will be no more JoJo worship in that house. If only it were summer, we could hear all about it. On second thought, thank heavens it's winter and we don't have to hear all about it. My first thought was that I hope their heads do explode, but my second thought is I hope the kids learn something from this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 14:53:10 GMT
She should though. Skin colors are beautiful. You are dismissing the person, their culture, and who they are if you don't see skin color. I mean I get it, it is with a kind heart but it doesn't help to reduce racism or help anyone overcome obstacles when people say that. See their skin color. See them for who they are. You are choosing to ignore a part of them when you don't see skin color. Is that necessary for four-going-on-five year old though? Kids that age aren't aware enough to know what their own culture is. The most important thing at that age is that they have an understanding that we're all human. It's the foundation for the learning that you've described. Um yup! It is important for a 4, 5, 10, 12, 35, 80 year old person to see the others skin color. Again when one doesn't and is blind to another skin tone, you are dismissing who they are, their unique beauty, their struggles, what they may have had to overcome themselves as well as their ancestors. I am sorry you don't agree but to me it is a form of racism. It shows you are not truly comfortable with the whole person.
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 14:53:30 GMT
She should though. Skin colors are beautiful. You are dismissing the person, their culture, and who they are if you don't see skin color. I mean I get it, it is with a kind heart but it doesn't help to reduce racism or help anyone overcome obstacles when people say that. See their skin color. See them for who they are. You are choosing to ignore a part of them when you don't see skin color. Is that necessary for four-going-on-five year old though? Kids that age aren't aware enough to know what their own culture is. The most important thing at that age is that they have an understanding that we're all human. It's the foundation for the learning that you've described. Children start receiving explicit and implicit messages about the meaning of race from birth and begin to show pro-white/anti-Black bias by age three (Baron & Banaji, 2006). To counter anti-Black bias and racism, experts recommend naming and taking action against racism with kids as early and as often as possible. This guide shares some key points and research-based best practices parents and caregivers can use to promote positive racial identity development in children, support conversations about race and racism, and move from conversation to action. As early as 3-6 months, babies notice and respond differently to people based on race (Kelly et al., 2005). By age 3, children categorize and express bias based on race, and may even use racist language intentionally (Van Ausdale and Feagin, 2001). Before your child can talk, they are already learning about the world, and about race, through your actions. Who is coming over to the house to visit? Who do they see when they are out and about in the neighborhood? What music are they hearing? What kind of artwork is hanging up on the walls? Are the main characters in the books they read predominantly white? How about the shows and movies they are watching? What race is their pediatrician, principal, and teacher? Be intentional about seeking out, valuing, and supporting creators, authors, colleagues, neighbors, professionals, and educators of color. You can tell kids “Black Lives Matter” and to value “diversity”, but it won’t mean much unless your actions show it. It is important to name whiteness and for white people to identify as “white”. Not naming or claiming the word “white” masks whiteness, white supremacy, and white privilege, power, and history as members of the dominant racial group. When white kids learn about racism, they may experience being white as a source of shame or guilt (Tatum, 2017). Share with them examples of white people who have utilized their power and privilege to take action against racism and oppression, and how they can commit to doing the same (Tatum, 2017). Ask them their ideas on how they can speak up and take action against racism and support them in incorporating this as an ongoing practice and action. We can’t fix a problem until we name it. Naming systems of inequity, such as white supremacy and racism, is key to disrupting their impact on the development of young children. Naming not only brings about an awareness of longstanding, systematic racism, but positively affirms the identities and resistance of oppressed communities (Freire, 1970; Ladson-Billings & Tate,1995; Richerme, 2016). Naming also empowers young children with the vocabulary and shared language needed to identify inequity and take action on their own as they become more experienced around issues of race and social justice. www.theconsciouskid.org/how-to-talk-to-kids-about-race
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 15:01:06 GMT
kidshealth.org/en/parents/talk-about-race.htmlGood Article edition.cnn.com/2020/05/28/health/parents-raising-white-children-racism-wellness/index.htmlQ&A on NPR from the author: What is the consequence of that silence? It breeds a lack of capacity among white people to engage in conversations about race and to respond when racism is happening. If I hear racism out on the street or from a co-worker, should I challenge it? What should I say about it? If my African American colleagues or friends see me be silent because I don't know what to do, I become untrustworthy. My daughter is told, "Police are safe — go find one if you're in trouble," but her African American cousin is learning complicated messages about the police from his parents. Those differing messages mean they can be great friends for a while. But eventually, the depth of their friendship will erode because my white child will not be able to identify with her African American cousin or her African American friends. If you look at the readership vs response of threads dealing with racism and Black issues you’d see that ignoring it and hoping racism will go away is the coping mechanism for many white people. It won’t. Talk to your kids. Don’t pretend you don’t see my Black skin so life is easier to navigate for you. It doesn’t change how hard it is for me. www.npr.org/2020/06/03/869071246/how-white-parents-can-talk-to-their-kids-about-race
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Post by maryland on Jan 23, 2021 15:03:51 GMT
I have no idea who she is, but good for her. I’m always happy to see people feeling comfortable living their lives as their authentic selves. Signed Mother of a gay son I only know who she is because Dance Moms started in our area. So Dance Moms related news is always local news for us (haha). And my husband loves celebrity gossip shows, and she was on it with her very decorated house for Christmas. But I didn't realize she was only 17, I thought she was in her early 20s.
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Post by peachiceteas on Jan 23, 2021 15:27:25 GMT
Is that necessary for four-going-on-five year old though? Kids that age aren't aware enough to know what their own culture is. The most important thing at that age is that they have an understanding that we're all human. It's the foundation for the learning that you've described. Um yup! It is important for a 4, 5, 10, 12, 35, 80 year old person to see the others skin color. Again when one doesn't and is blind to another skin tone, you are dismissing who they are, their unique beauty, their struggles, what they may have had to overcome themselves as well as their ancestors. I am sorry you don't agree but to me it is a form of racism. It shows you are not truly comfortable with the whole person. I don't disagree with you. I just think it's a lot for a 4 year old to be expected to have a grasp on.
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 15:50:18 GMT
Um yup! It is important for a 4, 5, 10, 12, 35, 80 year old person to see the others skin color. Again when one doesn't and is blind to another skin tone, you are dismissing who they are, their unique beauty, their struggles, what they may have had to overcome themselves as well as their ancestors. I am sorry you don't agree but to me it is a form of racism. It shows you are not truly comfortable with the whole person. I don't disagree with you. I just think it's a lot for a 4 year old to be expected to have a grasp on. They do. Research says they do. Experts have weighed in. It’s no different than the American Pediatric Association saying too much tv is bad for small children. When we know better we do better. If we don’t do better it’s only because we are comfortable with things remaining exactly as they are. I know many of you have me on ignore but it’s very easy to click on articles and briefly read the information they contain.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 23, 2021 16:03:49 GMT
Um yup! It is important for a 4, 5, 10, 12, 35, 80 year old person to see the others skin color. Again when one doesn't and is blind to another skin tone, you are dismissing who they are, their unique beauty, their struggles, what they may have had to overcome themselves as well as their ancestors. I am sorry you don't agree but to me it is a form of racism. It shows you are not truly comfortable with the whole person. I don't disagree with you. I just think it's a lot for a 4 year old to be expected to have a grasp on. I don’t want to seem like I am piling on or picking on you, but I am a pre-K teacher and assure you it is not a lot for a 4 year old to grasp. It is not a lot for a 3 year old to grasp. I don’t want to derail this thread but agree that reading the articles Olan posted would be helpful. They have some important information. It is something that absolutely NEEDS to be addressed with kids.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 23, 2021 16:31:15 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. It is still very important for people to come out, and it will continue to be important until the LGBT+ community decides the day has come that it isn't. Straight people don't get to claim this isn't an issue, because their opinion on this doesn't count. You aren't expected to "care" about every single person's sexuality, but all of us need to care that people who aren't straight feel safe & supported enough to be be able to live their lives truthfully. Sexual preference not mattering is a great concept, but as a society we aren't at that point yet, and until we are we still need to show support to the members of the LGBT community when they do come out and not dismiss their truth with comments such as it being private or not mattering. Being accepted for who they are always matters because it still isn't always the case. They are still discriminator against, shunned by their families, bullied etc. LGBT+ people still need to be visible because that's the only way we will ever get to a point where it truly doesn't matter any more. Coming out isn't "categorizing" people - it's the exact opposite, it's seeing the beautiful differences in people, the variety, and loving & accepting all of them.
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 16:34:41 GMT
I don't disagree with you. I just think it's a lot for a 4 year old to be expected to have a grasp on. I don’t want to seem like I am piling on or picking on you, but I am a pre-K teacher and assure you it is not a lot for a 4 year old to grasp. It is not a lot for a 3 year old to grasp. I don’t want to derail this thread but agree that reading the articles Olan posted would be helpful. They have some important information. It is something that absolutely NEEDS to be addressed with kids. Thank you for amplifying what I shared.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 16:36:45 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. It is still very important for people to come out, and it will continue to be important until the LGBT+ community decides the day has come that it isn't. Straight people don't get to claim this isn't an issue, because their opinion on this doesn't count. You aren't expected to "care" about every single person's sexuality, but all of us need to care that people who aren't straight feel safe & supported enough to be be able to live their lives truthfully. Sexual preference not mattering is a great concept, but as a society we aren't at that point yet, and until we are we still need to show support to the members of the LGBT community when they do come out and not dismiss their truth with comments such as it being private or not mattering. Being accepted for who they are always matters because it still isn't always the case. They are still discriminator against, shunned by their families, bullied etc. LGBT+ people still need to be visible because that's the only way we will ever get to a point where it truly doesn't matter any more. Coming out isn't "categorizing" people - it's the exact opposite, it's seeing the beautiful differences in people, the variety, and loving & accepting all of them. And when others come out, it helps others who are still covering their truth to be braver in coming out. Do straight people have community center homes to go to when their parents kick them out for being straight? No. But there are centers like that all over for LGBTQ+ teens. So until the day where LGBTQ+ persons don't need to fear for their safety and canopenly be who they are, I say keep the coming outs. You never know who can be helped from it
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Post by julie5 on Jan 23, 2021 16:37:49 GMT
I know who she is but none of my kids were really fans. But good for her for supporting all genders and orientations no matter what she identifies as. We can always use allies mo matter what.
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Post by elaine on Jan 23, 2021 16:38:34 GMT
Well, I’m glad for this thread. My kids being older now, and boys not into dance, I had never heard of JoJo before. I learned about something new, and watched a number of her videos. It seems like her appeal might be similar to the High School Musical crew when my boys were young.
Anyhow, good for her for being comfortable enough in her own skin to come out. 🌈🏳️🌈
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 16:45:40 GMT
I had to Google her because I had no idea who she was and why we should care about her sexuality. I see that she is very young and has a large young fan base. I hope that people who admired her before this announcement remain fans. I still find it odd when anyone publicly announces their sexuality to people other than family and close friends. My reaction is, "Why is this my business?" I guess when you are a public figure, it matters somehow? I would like to see the day that this isn't considered news and that people are all just people, regardless of sexual preference. The way we humans tend to categorize each other saddens me sometimes. It is still very important for people to come out, and it will continue to be important until the LGBT+ community decides the day has come that it isn't. Straight people don't get to claim this isn't an issue, because their opinion on this doesn't count. You aren't expected to "care" about every single person's sexuality, but all of us need to care that people who aren't straight feel safe & supported enough to be be able to live their lives truthfully. Sexual preference not mattering is a great concept, but as a society we aren't at that point yet, and until we are we still need to show support to the members of the LGBT community when they do come out and not dismiss their truth with comments such as it being private or not mattering. Being accepted for who they are always matters because it still isn't always the case. They are still discriminator against, shunned by their families, bullied etc. LGBT+ people still need to be visible because that's the only way we will ever get to a point where it truly doesn't matter any more. Coming out isn't "categorizing" people - it's the exact opposite, it's seeing the beautiful differences in people, the variety, and loving & accepting all of them. Applying this same energy to Black people doesn’t just make sense but would honor the Black activists who started the modern day gay rights movement. Black people look out for everyone else so reciprocity couldn’t come at a better time. Anti-blackness is global and doesn’t just hurt Black people. Don’t forgot it’s killing Black people but look for the ways injustice trickles down. www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/05/how-black-press-helped-pave-way-gay-rights/?outputType=ampdaily.jstor.org/the-stonewall-riots-didnt-start-the-gay-rights-movement/www.glaad.org/amp/understanding-black-lgbtq-history-liberation
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Post by Lexica on Jan 23, 2021 16:57:06 GMT
She's 17 years old and very famous. If she wants to go on dates, be in a relationship etc... it's better for her to be the person who announces and "owns" her sexuality, as opposed to TMZ or another gossip rag reporting it. This way it isn't salacious gossip - it just is. She's lucky to be in the time we are - when I was growing up, she'd be thrown together with a gay Disney star as a manufactured "couple" to throw people off the scent. I think , great she can just be who she is and it was a brave move - I'm sure she'll lose money and fans from it. Well, yes, better she talk about herself than have some gossip site do it. I didn't realize that sites like that considered sexuality as newsworthy anymore. And I appreciate that people that do come out publicly like this are doing a huge service for the multitude of young gay people who are in hiding. Seeing someone they like talk about their life would probably help them to see that being gay is no stigma and that they are perfectly fine being who they are. I was thinking that being gay was no big deal anymore and that it wasn't any more important to announce than someone announcing that they are straight. I am older than you are and I do remember the fake couples created by the big studios with stars like Rock Hudson and Cary Grant. I had hoped we had already evolved to the point that it is totally acceptable and non news. My intent wasn't to discuss her hairline in a "public consumption" gossipy way. I meant it as educational. I used her as an example because it is obvious, and preventable/curable if dealt with soon enough. I knew it as an autoimmune disorder symptom, not something that a person could cause by their hairstyle. I also know stress can cause temporary loss of hair. I just had never heard of traction alopecia and found it interesting. It made me immediately loosen my ponytail even thought mine isn't very tight. Yeah, Trump really did bring out the worst in people. I wonder how many years it will take to undo all of what he did. If this girl talking about her sexual preference could prevent a suicide, it will have been well worth it, I guess. Do you think that gay people have become more accepted by general society and transexuals are now taking all the heat? I see reports of major discrimination and violent attacks on transexuals.
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