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Post by Skellinton on Feb 18, 2021 4:30:21 GMT
So, someone sent this link to me asking if it were a joke or not. nypost.com/2021/02/12/adding-wokeness-oregon-promotes-teacher-program-to-subtract-racism-in-mathematics/I am extremely tired and not feeling great , so I am having a hard time making heads or tails of this. I am instantly skeptical due to the source and the excessive amount of words in quotes but if you google it some stuff does pull up. I am thinking the course is legitimate, but the way it is being explained in the article is meant to sensational. Anyone else more coherent and smarter then me have any ideas?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 18, 2021 4:52:38 GMT
I think this is the class they’re talking about equitablemath.org/I only looked at the first page, but I’m not sure why Fox News and others are getting all worked up by this
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 18, 2021 5:03:47 GMT
I think this is the class they’re talking about equitablemath.org/I only looked at the first page, but I’m not sure why Fox News and others are getting all worked up by this So the class is legit, but Fox News et all are making it out to be something it isn’t to stir people up. Now THAT makes sense.
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Post by boys5times on Feb 18, 2021 7:44:21 GMT
I don't get it. "we see white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up when the focus is getting the "right" answer." Isn't the goal to teach math so the students can get the "right" answer? That's racist? That and having students "show their work"? If they show their work the teacher can see what they are missing, right?
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Post by peasapie on Feb 18, 2021 10:11:44 GMT
I’m having a hard time sorting through that article myself. I’ll just say that many tests use words that disadvantage students with backgrounds that differ from the test maker. From that perspective, I am guessing (because I don’t know what the article’s original source material is) that this math program might be addressing bias in word problems. Below is an example of what that looks like. Many students can’t get the “right answer” because they don’t have the background to understand the context of the problem. In that light, yes it is racist. The following example is a word problem that would challenge a student born and raised in the U.S. Consider how much harder it would be for an ELL who has grown up in Belarus, a small country in eastern Europe, where cash is the only negotiable currency.
"Oscar bought a new sweater that cost two hundred dollars. He paid for the sweater with a credit card with a simple interest rate of 1.7 percent per month and a ten dollar fee for late payments. If Oscar's first payment of $50 was late, what would be the balance on his next monthly statement?"
This word problem could be made more comprehensible for ELLs by adding an explanation of late charges and interest. The curriculum could also be modified to ensure that ELLs have a thorough understanding not only of the language, but also of the underlying concepts involved.Quoted from www.brown.edu/academics/education-alliance/teaching-diverse-learners/question-iv-0
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 18, 2021 11:12:45 GMT
I can see it from this perspective. However, math being racist because it seeks a "right" answer is ridiculous. 1 + 1 = 2. There is no second right answer. This is what I hated about common core math. Because after giving the answer it would ask how we know 1 + 1 = 2. DS always struggled with this and I used to lose my shit and just write "IT'S MATH".
Anyway, while I don't agree that math is racist, I can definitely recognize that white students in affluent areas receive better educational opportunities. Better teachers, parents who either help them with their homework or hire tutors to do so (guilty, I sucked at math). Between this school in Oregon and the San Francisco school district that is more worried about renaming their buildings than getting their kids back in school, this rush to wokeness isn't really helping any kids.
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Post by peabay on Feb 18, 2021 13:08:48 GMT
What’s amazing to me in this discussion is that this issue is still being discussed. I’m 56 years old. When I was little, “Good Times” was a popular TV show about a family in the Chicago projects. I’m sure there’s many here who remember it.
I vividly remember, to this day, an episode where the younger son, who is very bright, talks about the inequities in testing of school children and gives an example of things like analogies - they are asked what goes with a cup, but what kid in poverty would know the answer was saucer when they don’t have them?
I was in like 4th grade when I saw that and it always, always stayed with me - probably helped to inform my political views, interestingly enough.
Now, I don’t disagree that math has rules - and that’s what it makes it attractive to many: there’s nothing subjective. But how it’s taught can make a huge difference.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 18, 2021 13:13:26 GMT
I don't get it. "we see white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up when the focus is getting the "right" answer." Isn't the goal to teach math so the students can get the "right" answer? That's racist? That and having students "show their work"? If they show their work the teacher can see what they are missing, right? The focus in teaching math has changed from getting the right answer to understanding math constructs. If getting the right answer is the only goal, use a calculator. BUT - showing your work is an important part of that understanding so, who knows. And I'm not entirely sure how that ties into race - I guess I would have to take the course.
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Post by Olan on Feb 18, 2021 13:24:47 GMT
When discussing this it’s important to note that equity and equality aren’t the same. It’s also important to note the number of teachers who need to do major anti-racist work and haven’t retired from classrooms yet. If you google equity+Black students+math you will find a million and one non profits doing this work. For years mind you. And a million and one resources/dissertations that will break down the argument.
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