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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 28, 2021 6:58:28 GMT
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Post by gar on Feb 28, 2021 9:00:28 GMT
I hope she can be treated successfully.
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Post by joelise on Feb 28, 2021 9:09:16 GMT
Let’s hope this was caught in time. Wishing her successful treatment.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Feb 28, 2021 9:20:24 GMT
I did not expect it to be something serious based on the thread title. Glad they found the lumps early and wish her a quick recovery. It sounds like she has a positive attitude being thankful and thinking everything happens for a reason.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 12:43:12 GMT
I hope it isn’t cancerous. This is why I insist my medical team be Black. I think it’s more than just cultural competence too.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 13:11:10 GMT
I hope it isn’t cancerous. This is why I insist my medical team be Black. I think it’s more than just cultural competence too. 1. Was this plastic surgeon Black? 2. This is just strange. This is the guy that offered to treat her scalp for free? And he just threw in a lift too? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 28, 2021 13:22:29 GMT
I am sorry to see this; hopefully she will make a full recovery.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 13:27:58 GMT
Obviously I don’t know the specifics of Tessica’s medical history but the ER she visited couldn’t come up with a treatment solution and just sent her home.
The Ghanaian plastic surgeon had no problem coming up with one.
The care she received from Dr. Obeng vs the likelihood of them being found if she was treated by a white physician...well it’s all speculation but we know how likely negative medical outcomes are for Black people. And we know why too.
When you ask someone a question and they provide you an answer responding in a way other than gratitude is kinda rude af no? You asked a question and then got huffy about my response. Like how 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 13:30:04 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.amp.htmlRacial discrimination has shaped so many American institutions that perhaps it should be no surprise that health care is among them. Put simply, people of color receive less care — and often worse care — than white Americans. Reasons includes lower rates of health coverage; communication barriers; and racial stereotyping based on false beliefs. Predictably, their health outcomes are worse than those of whites. African-American patients tend to receive lower-quality health services, including for cancer, H.I.V., prenatal care and preventive care, vast research shows. They are also less likely to receive treatment for cardiovascular disease, and they are more likely to have unnecessary limb amputations.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 13:55:04 GMT
So that no one else has to take the time to follow Olan's link, yes, this doctor is a Black man. I guess some may feel that has something to do with him finding masses in breasts. The anger peas have as they address me sometimes takes me off guard. I now know misplaced anger isn’t my issue but ask yourself “Why am I angry at Olan” and see what you come up with. If you feel inspired to start a thread just piggyback off the “Fresh Air Fund Creative Writing Apology” so it’s all in one neat place 😝😏😂 Guess the most common thing I’ve found amongst all the peas who respond to me in this way. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/user/704/recent?q=Olan2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/45290/another-black-man-police?page=15 |
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Post by peabay on Feb 28, 2021 14:13:35 GMT
So that no one else has to take the time to follow Olan's link, yes, this doctor is a Black man. I guess some may feel that has something to do with him finding masses in breasts. I do believe he would take a black woman more seriously than many white physicians. There's a lot of research out there that indicates that. |
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Post by peabay on Feb 28, 2021 14:14:15 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.amp.htmlRacial discrimination has shaped so many American institutions that perhaps it should be no surprise that health care is among them. Put simply, people of color receive less care — and often worse care — than white Americans. Reasons includes lower rates of health coverage; communication barriers; and racial stereotyping based on false beliefs. Predictably, their health outcomes are worse than those of whites. African-American patients tend to receive lower-quality health services, including for cancer, H.I.V., prenatal care and preventive care, vast research shows. They are also less likely to receive treatment for cardiovascular disease, and they are more likely to have unnecessary limb amputations. should have followed my own pet peeve and seen that Olan was already there. |
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Post by destined2bmom on Feb 28, 2021 14:21:09 GMT
I am praying that the lumps are not cancer and she is treated and healed.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 28, 2021 14:26:59 GMT
My experience with plastic surgeons when I was considering my breast reduction was awful. They all seemed to have some kind of god complex. They were unrealistic about what they could do. They were dismissive. They acted like my concerns with such a huge surgery were overblown. I was incredibly disappointed with the level of care and concern I received from most plastic surgeons.
The one I chose to do my surgery was a black man. He took the time to get a mammogram and then told me realistically how much tissue he could remove. He listened to my concerns and was honest with me about the aftercare. He showed me pictures of his prior work. He was honest with me about possible loss of sensitivity. He was honest with me about scarring. He took the time to make sure I knew he would do some liposuction under my arms so everything would lay smooth. He was realistic with me about the limitations I would have in caring for my toddler's after surgery. He gave me the heads up that as the nerves were reattaching I would most likely feel a rug burn type of sensation and this would occur weeks after the initial pain of the surgery had gone away. I felt so comforted by him that he was an easy choice for me. I absolutely would not hesitate to seek out another black surgeon.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 14:27:40 GMT
So that no one else has to take the time to follow Olan's link, yes, this doctor is a Black man. I guess some may feel that has something to do with him finding masses in breasts. I do believe he would take a black woman more seriously than many white physicians. There's a lot of research out there that indicates that. And unfortunately for Tessica she is the type of Black woman that people find easy to dehumanize and or ignore. She made a dumb mistake and now people can’t even be bothered to call her by her name 🤷🏾♀️ My mother’s medical records suggest her breasts were actually decaying before her cancer was detected. I can give many personal accounts of negligent care I’ve witnessed. Again the misplaced anger should really be checked and directed at the responsible parties. I’m the pea most likely to die here. I’m also the pea whose ancestors are responsible for advances in medical science that give white people a life expectancy and quality of life I’m denied. So umm which one of us should be complaining about time of all things. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 28, 2021 14:32:47 GMT
Olan said: She made a dumb mistake and now people can’t even be bothered to call her by her name Yes, this. This is the part that bothers me the most. Is that after making a mistake she is going to continue to be the butt of jokes for a long time.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 14:41:13 GMT
Which sucks because it seems she has some self esteem/body dysmorphia issues.
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 15:14:01 GMT
Yes Olan, I do find it irritating that you would choose to answer a simple yes or no question, with a researched link instead. Obviously, it's your right to answer in any way you choose, or to not answer at all. Type 2-3 characters, provide a link or write a book. All your choice. Honestly I found your response to be either manipulative or passive-aggressive. Which is why I did not quote your response or show appropriate appreciation. It is also common on message boards to not interrupt conversations to thank each poster that answers a question. It's not a lack of respect saved for people of color. Realizing that there may be others who would not know this doctor's race, and not want to take the time to follow a link just to find out, I gave them the results. I never cared about his ethnicity until you mentioned it would make a difference. The reports I read before indicated he was a well respected and highly qualified plastic surgeon, and frankly I wasn't that interested in the whole story. She made a foolish decision and she was going to be able to get help. End of story for me. Things happen, moving on. I do think that all highly qualified plastic surgeons would have performed a pre-surgical evaluation and likely found masses before operating. If only for the self-serving purpose of maintaining a record of their statistical success. Unfortunately, not all surgeons are highly qualified, regardless of their ethnicity. I have no idea who performed breast exams for her before, but it is fortunate that this one was done by him. Good point with quoting my 2017 post. I had removed the block. I like to think people may change over time, and think they should be given chances. I found your posts to always be argumentative before, rather than informational or differently opinioned. I routinely block argumentative people, both then and now. Life is too short. I answered your question with a link so you could get as much or as little information as you wanted. I wasn’t being passive aggressive. I’m unsure of what you mean by researched link I’ll acknowledge 2017 Olan post history is angry and hard to follow. I sound angry and disjointed because I was angry. Your response that Jordan Edwards killing may have been justified because teenagers shouldn’t be drinking underage or having loud parties made me livid and reading it in 2021 still does. You could have left me on block. You are right life is short. It’s even shorter for Black women so I’ll be sure to avoid answering your questions in future threads. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 15:15:04 GMT
I do believe he would take a black woman more seriously than many white physicians. There's a lot of research out there that indicates that. I do agree with that. I also think women in general are taken less seriously, but add in race and I agree it is even worse. Don't even get me started on the lack of respect given to elderly women. I do still think the biggest difference is being highly qualified however. Unfortunately not all in medical (or any) professions are. 🙄 |
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Post by busy on Feb 28, 2021 15:23:25 GMT
I do believe he would take a black woman more seriously than many white physicians. There's a lot of research out there that indicates that. I do agree with that. I also think women in general are taken less seriously, but add in race and I agree it is even worse. Don't even get me started on the lack of respect given to elderly women. I do still think the biggest difference is being highly qualified however. Unfortunately not all in medical (or any) professions are. This is not what research proves. |
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Post by mikewozowski on Feb 28, 2021 15:41:32 GMT
I hope it isn’t cancerous. This is why I insist my medical team be Black. I think it’s more than just cultural competence too. i do know that black people do not get as good of medical care, but do you realize that this problem also occurs when black people have black doctors, and maybe even to a greater degree. there was a segment on 60 minutes about this. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 15:50:53 GMT
I hope it isn’t cancerous. This is why I insist my medical team be Black. I think it’s more than just cultural competence too. i do know that black people do not get as good of medical care, but do you realize that this problem also occurs when black people have black doctors, and maybe even to a greater degree. there was a segment on 60 minutes about this. Could you share the segment? I’m aware that even a 100% Black medical team could mean negative medical outcomes for me but I’m much more comfortable with the odds if the professionals entrusted with my care are also Black. This is especially true for labor and delivery. Luckily I am fairly healthy and can avoid medical settings at this stage in my life. When that changes I’m likely to forgo medical interventions all together. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 28, 2021 15:54:36 GMT
So that no one else has to take the time to follow Olan's link, yes, this doctor is a Black man. I guess some may feel that has something to do with him finding masses in breasts. In the article I saw she was having a breast lift as I stated in the OP. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 16:03:16 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 28, 2021 16:05:17 GMT
Olan said: She made a dumb mistake and now people can’t even be bothered to call her by her name Yes, this. This is the part that bothers me the most. Is that after making a mistake she is going to continue to be the butt of jokes for a long time. Although I wonder if that bothers her? She has hired several people to try to help her become a celebrity now—all based on the action of gluing her hair with gorilla glue. I wouldn’t want to be known for that, but she seems to be capitalizing on it. I also assume that is why she continues to talk about herself to the media now. Is she using this as an opportunity to remind people to get mammograms or do self-exams? Doesn’t seem like it. She and this doctor are using the situation to market themselves. I don’t think we have enough info to say that she had poor treatment by a white doctor in the past. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 16:16:19 GMT
Olan said: She made a dumb mistake and now people can’t even be bothered to call her by her name Yes, this. This is the part that bothers me the most. Is that after making a mistake she is going to continue to be the butt of jokes for a long time. Although I wonder if that bothers her? She has hired several people to try to help her become a celebrity now—all based on the action of gluing her hair with gorilla glue. I wouldn’t want to be known for that, but she seems to be capitalizing on it. I also assume that is why she continues to talk about herself to the media now. Is she using this as an opportunity to remind people to get mammograms or do self-exams? Doesn’t seem like it. She and this doctor are using the situation to market themselves. I don’t think we have enough info to say that she had poor treatment by a white doctor in the past. I didn’t say she had poor treatment by a white doctor but I do think we have enough “information” to deduce Tessica and all other Black women have cause for concern. I do believe the quality of care she is receiving from Dr. Obeng has a lot to do with the fact that he is a Black man. Please keep in mind I’m sharing my lived experiences and opinions BUT research is and will always be research. Facts figures studies etc. and in order for the research to report the way it does there has to be a human experience on the other side of it. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 28, 2021 16:54:17 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.amp.htmlRacial discrimination has shaped so many American institutions that perhaps it should be no surprise that health care is among them. Put simply, people of color receive less care — and often worse care — than white Americans. Reasons includes lower rates of health coverage; communication barriers; and racial stereotyping based on false beliefs. Predictably, their health outcomes are worse than those of whites. African-American patients tend to receive lower-quality health services, including for cancer, H.I.V., prenatal care and preventive care, vast research shows. They are also less likely to receive treatment for cardiovascular disease, and they are more likely to have unnecessary limb amputations. She went in to have her scalp looked at. Why would the ER doctors check out her breasts? Exactly. Also, I read an article that said the doctor “created” the concoction that ultimately removed the glue. He practiced it on a mannequin. It wasn’t something that the ER had access to or could treat in an “emergency” room since it required a plastic surgeon. I feel bad for her that she was likely very distressed about her hair and what would happen, but how she has behaved and continues to seek attention and money for this is off putting. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 17:02:49 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.amp.htmlRacial discrimination has shaped so many American institutions that perhaps it should be no surprise that health care is among them. Put simply, people of color receive less care — and often worse care — than white Americans. Reasons includes lower rates of health coverage; communication barriers; and racial stereotyping based on false beliefs. Predictably, their health outcomes are worse than those of whites. African-American patients tend to receive lower-quality health services, including for cancer, H.I.V., prenatal care and preventive care, vast research shows. They are also less likely to receive treatment for cardiovascular disease, and they are more likely to have unnecessary limb amputations. She went in to have her scalp looked at. Why would the ER doctors check out her breasts? I’m not connecting the two. I don’t think anyone in the thread has. Though when she went to the ER for the Gorilla Glue issue she was sent home without a viable solution. The solve created by Dr. Obeng doesn’t seem all that medically advanced. I mean he reached out to Gorilla Glue and there was some science involved but the biggest component was the willingness to help. |
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Post by Olan on Feb 28, 2021 17:05:31 GMT
She went in to have her scalp looked at. Why would the ER doctors check out her breasts? Exactly. Also, I read an article that said the doctor “created” the concoction that ultimately removed the glue. He practiced it on a mannequin. It wasn’t something that the ER had access to or could treat in an “emergency” room since it required a plastic surgeon. I feel bad for her that she was likely very distressed about her hair and what would happen, but how she has behaved and continues to seek attention and money for this is off putting. I don’t think that’s true. You think it needed to be a plastic surgeon? Why? What equipment did the doctor have that the ER did not? |
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Post by busy on Feb 28, 2021 17:11:24 GMT
Exactly. Also, I read an article that said the doctor “created” the concoction that ultimately removed the glue. He practiced it on a mannequin. It wasn’t something that the ER had access to or could treat in an “emergency” room since it required a plastic surgeon. I feel bad for her that she was likely very distressed about her hair and what would happen, but how she has behaved and continues to seek attention and money for this is off putting. I don’t think that’s true. You think it needed to be a plastic surgeon? Why? What equipment did the doctor have that the ER did not? Well, in the ER there’s not the luxury of time to research possible remedies to not-urgent cases. That’s the nature of emergency treatment. It did not need to be a plastic surgeon, but it needed to be a non-emergent environment with a practitioner willing to help and open to non-standard treatments. |
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