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Post by hookturnian on Jun 30, 2021 13:00:05 GMT
The AZ vaccines will not be wasted. I'm sure they will be given to other countries who are not as risk averse as we are.
Our federal government has botched the vaccine rollout, and their mixed messaging has resulted in the general public not wanting Astra Zeneca. Demand for Pfizer far exceeds supply, and we are due to receive larger shipments from September onwards. I fully understand people not wanting to take AZ now, when by the time they get their 2nd dose of AZ, we will have much more Pfizer available. Aside from the odd outbreak we are almost covid free. Our risk-benefit analysis looks a lot different from that in the UK for example. How do you convince the general public to take the AZ vaccine when in 2021 more people have died of AZ in Australia than have died of covid.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 30, 2021 18:44:47 GMT
How do you convince the general public to take the AZ vaccine when in 2021 more people have died of AZ in Australia than have died of covid. Exactly right. And how do you convince people to take one vaccine when they already know that there are several other vaccines available that don't carry the same risks as AZ - but they can't have them simply because our Government didn't buy enough (or any) of the other options? We have over 3000 ICU/ventilator beds in Vic. We currently only have 2 people in hospital due to covid and they aren't in ICU, we haven't had anyone on a ventilator due to covid for many months...but you know who was just on a ventilator for 2 weeks? - the 45yo guy who developed blood clots after his AZ vaccine. I wasn't going to be, and can completely understand why others won't be bulldozed into getting a medical treatment advised by some dickhead who studied economics at University. I agree that the AZ vaccine should be available to anyone who wants to get it, if people want to go to their doctors and have a discussion about the risks and then make an informed decision for themselves they should be free to do that. But I definitely object to politicians standing on platforms telling people to get a vaccine and that it's safe when that simply isn't true for everyone.
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Post by uksue on Jun 30, 2021 19:28:08 GMT
No treatment is without risks. Deaths and cases of myocarditis are also being linked to Pfizer. I’ll happily have my AZ booster in September . I reckon this winter is going to be brutal health-wise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 19:55:02 GMT
No treatment is without risks. Deaths and cases of myocarditis are also being linked to Pfizer. I’ll happily have my AZ booster in September . I reckon this winter is going to be brutal health-wise. Yes,I read about that earlier. Apparently Israel had already flagged it a couple of months ago well ahead of the findings of it in the US military which is the report I read.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 30, 2021 20:26:15 GMT
No treatment is without risks. Deaths and cases of myocarditis are also being linked to Pfizer. I’ll happily have my AZ booster in September . I reckon this winter is going to be brutal health-wise. I'm not finding many reports of deaths, only one or two confirmed. Myocarditis does seem to be in issue in younger men but from what I'm reading almost all have mild symptoms and recover well. Therefore as a 50+ women obviously I don't fall into this risk category, so that wouldn't affect my decision on getting the Pfizer vaccine. If a 20yo man decides that he doesn't want Pfizer based on the data coming out - I'd fully support that too, and he should be able to get whatever vaccine he (or his doctor) feel comfortable with. My point is - I have enough knowledge to make a decision for myself, and so do many others, those who don't should go to their doctors to help them decide which vaccine is appropriate for them. My issue is with politicians trying to force people to have one vaccine over another because they have made a decision based solely on economic factors. Politicians need to follow the advice of scientists and medical experts and not make their own recommendations.
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Post by hookturnian on Jul 1, 2021 6:15:02 GMT
No treatment is without risks. Deaths and cases of myocarditis are also being linked to Pfizer. I’ll happily have my AZ booster in September . I reckon this winter is going to be brutal health-wise. Again, a different situation to the one we are in. We are already a month into winter. By the time someone is 14 days post a 2 dose regimen of AZ, winter will be over.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 8:08:57 GMT
No treatment is without risks. Deaths and cases of myocarditis are also being linked to Pfizer. I’ll happily have my AZ booster in September . I reckon this winter is going to be brutal health-wise. Again, a different situation to the one we are in. We are already a month into winter. By the time someone is 14 days post a 2 dose regimen of AZ, winter will be over. I think she's talking about our winter and the news given out yesterday that a booster will be given out in September for the ones most at risk here in the way we give out the flu vaccination each year.
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