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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 18:33:35 GMT
We watched an old program a few weeks ago and one of the characters had to pay a big bill. He didn't have a credit card. He forgot his checkbook. So he asked the merchant if he could sign a "counter check".
I'm old. I remember the clunky credit card sliders, traveler's checks, when credit cards were called "charge plates", etc (one of my first jobs was as a hostess/cashier at the Walnut Room in Marshall Fields).
But I don't remember "counter checks". Anyone else?
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Post by Anita on Mar 31, 2021 18:38:07 GMT
Yes, but then I used to be a bank teller.
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Post by Sparki on Mar 31, 2021 18:40:36 GMT
I'm not that old, but I remember counter checks. I grew up in the country, where credit cards probably came later than they did to the cities.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 18:41:51 GMT
Yep!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 18:42:22 GMT
What are they?! How did they work?
This wasn't a "counter check" at a bank, but at a store.
Was it like an IOU?
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Post by garcia5050 on Mar 31, 2021 18:42:52 GMT
I think counter checks are still a thing (or are they?). Weird. I work in a bank and feel like I should know. Back when I was working at a branch, a counter check was when the bank had blank stock of plain checks (in a personal check size), and we used the encoder machine to create the strip on the bottom with the correct numbers in MICR (magnetic) ink.
Now that everyone has moved to imaging of checks (no longer need to encode) - I think the encoder machines have been removed from the branches. I think branches could now print the blank check on special perforated paper, run it through a regular printer, and it's the same thing as the counter check of long ago.
The other day, Travelers Checks came up in a movie, and I was wondering if those still exist. I remember buying them ONCE - and it was a hassle. This was before 'ATMs are everywhere' days.
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Post by compeateropeator on Mar 31, 2021 18:43:43 GMT
Yes. I managed a check processing department at a bank for many years. When I started checks were processed by using the micr encoding at the bottom of the checks. They were processed through a sorter that read that information (Routing number, account number, check number, and amount).
We had people that processed all paper document through machines that encoded that information onto the checks, deposit slips, etc that wasn’t preprinted and they also balanced each transaction. Then the documents were run through a sorter that captured that information and sorted the checks and other documents into separated pockets.
We hated counter checks because we had to encode all the fields and it slowed you down. Everything was speed and accuracy driven. 😄 We were often asked to encode a bunch of checks for customers that had run out of checks and couldn’t get more for weeks. Now imaging is used and micr encoding is gone by the wayside.
sorry - too much information as usual. 😉😆
ETA - maybe I don’t know what you are talking about as I read your second response. 🤷♀️
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2021 18:50:15 GMT
Very old, and never heard of them. I do remember people talking about you could write a check on any piece of paper though.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 31, 2021 18:52:22 GMT
Odd that your question came up. About 3 nights ago, DH and I discussed counter checks. They were around as late as the 60s in this part of the US.
For those who don't know--the banks would have checks from other banks on the counters at a bank, a person came in, found the checks from their bank, wrote out a check and cashed it, or paid for things. DH was telling me about a coworker who had several people using counter checks and getting money from coworkers account.
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Post by compeateropeator on Mar 31, 2021 18:53:01 GMT
Very old, and never heard of them. I do remember people talking about you could write a check on any piece of paper though. We use to hate when people were out of checks and often used their deposit slips as a check. There was a code on the bottom that designated it as a credit, so it always screwed up the balancing of the transaction and had to be manually corrected when it was processed at the bank. Costco seemed to be a big offender of letting people do this. Hahaha,
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Post by katlady on Mar 31, 2021 19:01:50 GMT
I thought counter checks were something you got at a bank, not a merchant? But, I think you can still get counter checks, aren’t they the same as temporary checks
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Post by auntkelly on Mar 31, 2021 19:02:10 GMT
I was born in 1960 and grew up in a town which had two banks. Every merchant had a stack of checks from each bank on the counter and you could just grab a check from your bank and fill it out to pay for your purchase.
There were also counter checks in a box attached to the back of every pew in church.
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Post by KiwiJo on Mar 31, 2021 19:03:33 GMT
I don’t remember counter cheques (don’t even know if they were a thing here) - but I can barely remember any cheques at all. I certainly can’t remember when I last wrote a cheque of any sort, and I know that we haven’t got a cheque book in the house.
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 31, 2021 19:04:17 GMT
I am old & I remember counter checks. I also remember before credit cards.
When I was a kid I used to go to the bank with my grandmother and we always dressed up to go into the bank. I was in my thirties before I was comfortable going into a bank in casual clothes.
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Post by jenjie on Mar 31, 2021 19:17:46 GMT
I think counter checks are still a thing (or are they?). Weird. I work in a bank and feel like I should know. Back when I was working at a branch, a counter check was when the bank had blank stock of plain checks (in a personal check size), and we used the encoder machine to create the strip on the bottom with the correct numbers in MICR (magnetic) ink. Now that everyone has moved to imaging of checks (no longer need to encode) - I think the encoder machines have been removed from the branches. I think branches could now print the blank check on special perforated paper, run it through a regular printer, and it's the same thing as the counter check of long ago. The other day, Travelers Checks came up in a movie, and I was wondering if those still exist. I remember buying them ONCE - and it was a hassle. This was before 'ATMs are everywhere' days. This is what I’m thinking of.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 19:28:38 GMT
I thought counter checks were something you got at a bank, not a merchant? But, I think you can still get counter checks, aren’t they the same as temporary checks That's what I thought. That's why I was so puzzled. How would a merchant accept a "counter check".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 19:29:33 GMT
I was born in 1960 and grew up in a town which had two banks. Every merchant had a stack of checks from each bank on the counter and you could just grab a check from your bank and fill it out to pay for your purchase. There were also counter checks in a box attached to the back of every pew in church. Ah. Thank you. Maybe that's how this was. The merchant had a bunch of counter checks from big banks in the area.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Mar 31, 2021 19:34:50 GMT
I always thought a counter check was an older term for a cashier’s check. It sounds like maybe it is? Something you only get from a bank for specific reasons where the recipient might not trust a personal check, like buying a car.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 31, 2021 19:35:18 GMT
I don't remember counter checks. I remember my Grandmother and Great Aunt, dressing up(dress, hat and gloves) to make the every other week trip to the bank to get the spending money/petty cash needed until next payday. We had to wear our yearly Easter dress and good shoes and be on our best behavior, if we went to the bank(or Doctor, restaurant, store, etc...) with them. I remember the old style credit card slide machines. I remember riding my bike to the liquor(now called convenience store) store to get my Mother and Step fathers cigarettes (and whatever else was on the list) and we were each allowed to get one penny candy, then we would say "My Mother (Mrs Name here) says put it on my (step) Fathers account(because the account had to be in the mans name back then ). I used travels checks once when I was 18 or 19, and all I remember is that they were a pain in the ass, and that small businesses wouldn't take them only major stores and restaurants. I remember wearing a thin money belt/fanny pack type thing under my clothes, and only keeping a small amount of money in my purse, when on vacation in my 20's. Beware of pick pockets everyone would say.
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Post by compeateropeator on Mar 31, 2021 19:39:28 GMT
I always thought a counter check was an older term for a cashier’s check. It sounds like maybe it is? Something you only get from a bank for specific reasons where the recipient might not trust a personal check, like buying a car. In my world a counter check was just a plain blank check that was not printed with any customer information. That was added after, but it was the actual customer’s account number, etc. A cashiers check was drawn off an official bank account and was purchased by the customer, but basically guaranteed by the bank. Not at all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 19:39:51 GMT
I know they were around in the late 70s. You could pick up a stack of them off the counter at a bank and take them with you. You would just write your account numbers in the designated boxes and use them to pay bills or whatever. It would be unusual for a store to accept one for a purchase, for the obvious reason, but they were fairly protected if you used it to pay on your store charge account. They could just take away the credit to your account and adjust that balance back to what it was- plus a fee for doing so. Utilities and lenders accepted them. Well, I think that is probably proof that we are downward sliding as a society. It only takes a second to consider all the trouble we would have with them now. Yes, but in the program we saw, the buyer DIDN'T have any checks on him. The MERCHANT had the "counter checks". So it must have been as mentioned above. A set of "counter checks" from big banks in town that were blank and kept by the merchant so that people could pay if they didn't have a credit card or checkbook on them. In this case it was an auto garage - I could see people needing to spend a lot for a repair and not having that much cash, not have a cc or carrying their checkbook.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Mar 31, 2021 19:51:36 GMT
I have never done it, but can't you print your own checks at home? If so, I don't see much of a need for counter checks any more: run out of checks, print a few at home.
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Post by milocat on Mar 31, 2021 19:51:40 GMT
Interesting, never heard of them. Here you could just come back and pay later. Heck we (some of us) can still do that (at quite a few places) in our community.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 20:00:00 GMT
Found this example. Wow. Talk about opportunities for fraud. www.oklahomahistory.net/CounterChecks.htmlSo I guess the really old ones just had the bank's name, but no bank branch # or acct #. Then maybe back in the 50s,60s, 70s, etc. they probably had the bank branch # MICRed on. I can see how a merchant could pick up a bunch of blank ones and keep them on hand for customers to use w/ID/DL, etc. I love learning this stuff. Thanks peas. Love hearing the personal memories.
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Post by Kerri W on Mar 31, 2021 21:00:13 GMT
They are still around! We used one today at a closing for a property we purchased. It was assumed that the money could be transferred between accounts at the same bank and the bank preferred to use a counter check.
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Post by edie3 on Mar 31, 2021 21:01:57 GMT
I thought counter checks were what you got when you opened a new checking account, before your were mailed your printed checks.
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Post by georgiapea on Mar 31, 2021 21:15:42 GMT
I remember when banks had them in the lobby. in the counter with little pigeon holes.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 31, 2021 21:18:08 GMT
Yep ~ but I worked for a bank from 1970 until I married DH in 1984. I was in the Trust Department but remember counter checks very well.
Perk of working for one of the first banks to offer Visa cards in house: my second day on the job, they delivered a Visa card to me with an employee rate of 6%!
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Post by iowgirl on Mar 31, 2021 21:28:40 GMT
Oh heck yes! I remember counter checks! My little town had two big banks! Every store in town had a book of counter checks for each bank. So did the bar. The bar was where I usually used one. I didn't even have to write my account number on it. You just had to make sure you grabbed the right bank - but if you goofed, they just called you up and had you fix it. Small town living! LOL Everybody knows your business, but sometimes that isn't so bad. The other day, Travelers Checks came up in a movie, and I was wondering if those still exist. I remember buying them ONCE - and it was a hassle. This was before 'ATMs are everywhere' days. I am glad Travelers Checks are a thing of the past. What a huge pain! Heck - even the ATM is getting archaic. My kids pay each other and at a lot of business with Venmo or CashApp. I'm calling Venmo the "Counter Check" of the modern day I can still get blank checks from my bank when I run out of checks. They pre-print the routing number and account number on the bottom and I just use my address stamp to put my name on it. Those are not the same as a counter check. I still write a surprising large amount of checks each month for bills. I do pay a lot online, but in the farming/ranching business - checks are still very important. We quite often buy replacement calves out of sale barns in Colorado, South Dakota or Nebraska. It is normal for the calves to arrive on our farm and then we write the check to pay for them and drop it in the mail... this is to the tune of $200,000 to $300,000! They know if you can't pay - and they know if you CAN! Reputation is everything in the cattle business.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 21:36:28 GMT
Oh heck yes! I remember counter checks! My little town had two big banks! Every store in town had a book of counter checks for each bank. So did the bar. The bar was where I usually used one. I didn't even have to write my account number on it. You just had to make sure you grabbed the right bank - but if you goofed, they just called you up and had you fix it. Small town living! LOL Everybody knows your business, but sometimes that isn't so bad. Awesome! That's the kind of memory I was hoping for. I realize BANKS have counter checks. But I don't remember MERCHANTS having them. What a cool - if very insecure - concept Yeah, small towns did have some advantages. But also disadvantages
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