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Post by hop2 on Apr 7, 2021 19:22:05 GMT
Joking aside, in the interest of fairness, MRA doesn't live in the $725,000 house in Farmington anymore - she lives in North Salt Lake in a house Zillow values at $521,000. And the house in Hawaii was Grant's mother's house that he (and probably any siblings he has) inherited when she died last year. So they're not quite as privileged as we thought (but still way more privileged than most.) Inheritance is actually the single greatest financial privilege: no work is required from the heir to acquire the wealth. It's literally given. Hence why many economists plead for a major reform of inheritance tax and fiscality. As for going from a 3/4 million $ home to 1/2 million $ home, I see no lesser privilege here either, especially when you consider they're empty nesters now. It's not unusual at all to downsize and free up capital as you move closer to retirement age/become active grandparents. This by no means indicates a loss of income or lesser privilege in itself. Not tapping you on the fingers, scraphappy0501, just wanted to showcase the other obvious side of the fairness coin. The issue or complexity with inheritance taxes is the way they affect small family businesses most particularly family farms. Quite often even if the younger generation has been working side by side on that farm since they were walking they still do not have the cash to pay for the inherited ‘value’ of the farm & the equipment after the IRS evaluation. I’m not an accountant so I’m sure there have to be ways around this issue because Monsanto is not forking over %20-25 evaluation each time they change CEO. But I do know of multiple family farms that went under due to inheritance taxation. And a couple of mom & pop stores too. I don’t know what the answer is but there’s a huge difference from farmer brown Jr inheriting a working farm from farmer brown senior. A farm that they have worked their entire life at less than minimum wage no doubt, but none of that sweat equity comes into play. That is a very different situation from silver spoon junior being handed 2 billion dollars from silver spoon senior for just existing.
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Post by Kerri W on Apr 7, 2021 19:25:28 GMT
Maybe it’s time for a Google search of Max Aslett. ... Indeed. Good call @greeneyedcrafter
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 7, 2021 19:28:40 GMT
Inheritance is actually the single greatest financial privilege: no work is required from the heir to acquire the wealth. It's literally given. Hence why many economists plead for a major reform of inheritance tax and fiscality. The issue or complexity with inheritance taxes is the way they affect small family businesses most particularly family farms. Quite often even if the younger generation has been working side by side on that farm since they were walking they still do not have the cash to pay for the inherited ‘value’ of the farm & the equipment after the IRS evaluation. I’m not an accountant so I’m sure there have to be ways around this issue because Monsanto is not forking over %20-25 evaluation each time they change CEO. But I do know of multiple family farms that went under due to inheritance taxation. And a couple of mom & pop stores too. I don’t know what the answer is but there’s a huge difference from farmer brown Jr inheriting a working farm from farmer brown senior. A farm that they have worked their entire life at less than minimum wage no doubt, but none of that sweat equity comes into play. That is a very different situation from silver spoon junior being handed 2 billion dollars from silver spoon senior for just existing. That is one very specific scenario that some countries already remedy with agricultural relief funds (since it's a struggling business to be taken over for business continuation purposes).
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Post by hop2 on Apr 7, 2021 19:36:08 GMT
imagine being an adult and having your mommy's ~followers~ pay for your own property? grift of the century. maybe he didn't know about it? I dunno... just a guess. I certainly wouldn't want my mom asking for a handout for me. This type of thing is why my DH says that sometimes he wants to try it for himself as an experiment... stand on the side of the road, dressed in a nice dress shirt and khaki pants, with a sign that says 'Want to drive a Maserati - help me out' and just see what happens. (yeah, we both have jobs, but we'd like NICER stuff, you know? and hey, if we don't have to WORK for it, even better!!) Maybe I should take a picture of him looking all pathetic sitting in his used Volvo, and post it on Instagram instead. whaddya think? Tell him to go ahead and do it. Lol He will never know til he tries. When I was in college my room mate & I met a man who was a ‘professional’ beggar. He got up dressed in a suit commuted to the city on a NJ transit bus, went to the men’s room changed clothes took up ‘his’ corner for the day and panhandled, then commuted home in his suit again. He made 90K in the late 80’s My roommate & I went to the WTC via path. On our way back, we were standing near the entrance to the path rummaging thru our ratty backpacks for our return money when some Wall Street dude just paid both of our tickets ($3-4 total at the time I think ) we hadn’t even asked lol we always thought that would be a good place to ‘beg’ right out side the path at WTC but I think the world is way more cynical now a days.
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Post by mom on Apr 7, 2021 19:40:18 GMT
Maybe it’s time for a Google search of Max Aslett. ... Indeed. Good call @greeneyedcrafter Yikes.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 7, 2021 19:43:41 GMT
Indeed. Good call @greeneyedcrafter Yikes. This is Margie's public IG event, not his. It's not ok to go "find" him.
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Post by Kerri W on Apr 7, 2021 19:45:13 GMT
This is Margie's public IG event, not his. It's not ok to go "find" him. I respectfully disagree. He's a 30 year old man, not a child.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 7, 2021 19:48:10 GMT
This is Margie's public IG event, not his. It's not ok to go "find" him. I respectfully disagree. He's a 30 year old man, not a child. He didn't post it to public social media so it's not his doing. Thus respecting his privacy is key. That's an ethical line I'm not ok to cross. At all.
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Post by mom on Apr 7, 2021 19:48:25 GMT
This is Margie's public IG event, not his. It's not ok to go "find" him. Then don't go look.
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Post by needtime2scrap on Apr 7, 2021 19:51:42 GMT
I still refuse to contribute money to people who live a higher lifestyle than I do. I've only been on 1 holiday (leave the country on an airplane) in 23 years! We couldn't even afford a honeymoon! We had kids young and had our "honeymoon" for our 20th anniversary. And that was paid for by me working a second job and saving for a year! And you have people like this who have no shame asking for money as they holiday in Hawaii multiple times a year and living a pretty cushy lifestyle. According to her insta she's on a plane there right now! You can't tell me that they couldn't help their own kid out. I can't believe people fell for it!
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Post by hockeyfan06 on Apr 7, 2021 20:12:40 GMT
I'm astonished by all this. I can't imagine doing it.
I'm curious to know if her 30 yr old son is even aware of what his mother is doing?
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Post by JavaJones on Apr 7, 2021 20:20:24 GMT
I'm astonished by all this. I can't imagine doing it. I'm curious to know if her 30 yr old son is even aware of what his mother is doing? I am guessing the son doesn’t know that she posted asking for money. I know that my grown children would be HORRIFIED if I did something like that. Wrong and upsetting on so many levels
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 20:23:14 GMT
I respectfully disagree. He's a 30 year old man, not a child. He didn't post it to public social media so it's not his doing. Thus respecting his privacy is key. That's an ethical line I'm not ok to cross. At all. Have to disagree. If my sister posted something like that about me, I would ask her to take it down. If for NO other reason, than to maintain my privacy. Max doesn't seem to mind the money that went along w/the public discussion of his situation. He shouldn't be surprised if that public money comes w/public scrutiny.
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Post by questioning on Apr 7, 2021 20:30:48 GMT
I keep coming back to this thread because I still cannot get over the audacity of the entitlement. There is no way that her and her husband, (oh and maybe his sisters) could chip in to help him out. What is she teaching him about responsibility and resilience? He is 30 years old. Exactly, he's 30 years old so he's no longer her responsibility... He's everybody's responsibility now! Really, this!!! I can't believe he's thirty and she's asking this. I thought 24 at the most. Gall! Four more pages to catch up, grabbing a soda.
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Post by questioning on Apr 7, 2021 20:34:13 GMT
"Be happy with what you have, while working for what you want" -Helen Keller Unless you can grift from others You made my day. What a lovely embroidered sampler that would make.
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Post by scrappydo on Apr 7, 2021 20:36:16 GMT
Oh geez I’m so stupid. Really such missed opportunities. I’m supporting my own young adults during the pandemic. Did I mention that one has anxiety? I’m paying my own vet bills. I made my DD buy her shop furniture off FB marketplace for 1/10th the price. Maybe if I crowd fund this stuff I can get that vacation house. I guess I’m going about this all wrong. I also gave missed the boat on having my kids provide opportunities for people send me cash. Mind you, one is in his last year of high school with no part time job yet, and the other is almost 20 and going to an adult job interview today.... so I reckon there's 10 years in it if I was to start now....
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Post by questioning on Apr 7, 2021 20:40:21 GMT
Welp....my son has to register for classes tomorrow. Anyone want to throw some moolah my way for tuition? #askingforafriend Well, I've already had my Starbucks today but I'll think about sacrificing it tomorrow. #decaffeinateforafriend Will a Sonic Tea count? I only splurge during the half-price happy hour - but every little bit to help the needy.
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Post by amp on Apr 7, 2021 20:48:18 GMT
Way back she worked for Making Memories, when she was fired she started Girls Paperie, then Authentique, but lately I think she just does overpriced retreats and classes called “Spark”. She is also the first one I remember who CONSTANTLY posted feet photos. Feet photos!? Gross. That alone is enough to make me not follow her or purchase anything from her. LOL Amen to that!
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Post by amp on Apr 7, 2021 21:03:39 GMT
Welp....my son has to register for classes tomorrow. Anyone want to throw some moolah my way for tuition? #askingforafriend Don't get me going on this one...I sacrificed a lot to help pay for my son's tuition...clearly, I did it wrong...
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Post by questioning on Apr 7, 2021 21:27:56 GMT
Now I have questions, just because I am nosy. What empire did her father-in-law start? Is it common to hyphenate names in Utah? IS this because she's related to the political Romneys?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 21:41:10 GMT
why go panhandling when you have resources within your own family Greed?
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Post by PaperAngel on Apr 7, 2021 21:56:00 GMT
Who? Never heard of this "celebrity." "Years of work & sacrifice made for this home," yet she spent only a couple minutes to type an online solicitation for her adult son who's "literal life" (aka chef knives) was allegedly stolen while preparing for her next Hawaiian trip - during a pandemic - to enjoy the vacation home it seems her in-laws built? Someone appears overly entitled.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 7, 2021 22:40:06 GMT
He didn't post it to public social media so it's not his doing. Thus respecting his privacy is key. That's an ethical line I'm not ok to cross. At all. Have to disagree. If my sister posted something like that about me, I would ask her to take it down. If for NO other reason, than to maintain my privacy. Max doesn't seem to mind the money that went along w/the public discussion of his situation. He shouldn't be surprised if that public money comes w/public scrutiny. Here's where I draw the ethical line: it's his mother's story told from her POV on her public social media account to address her audience. The fact that he benefits from this in the end is back within the private sphere of their home. She will get the money in her Venmo account and do whatever she wishes with it. I pointed out the hypocrisy of her public feed vs her public demand (the whole "If I could afford") even if the ultimate benefactors' recipient is to be someone else. I'm looking at who's actively making the demand here, not who's passively in the back. Hence why this is an ethical line I won't cross. Her son's role in the Instagram Venmo charity drive was as a character, not as an active participant. There may be a cultural difference at play here, too. Europeans tend to draw a much stronger line in the sand when it comes to respect of privacy and private vs public sphere. But my point of view stands: active vs passive. Ultimately, her son remains in the private sphere of their family unit in terms of his activity. It's not my business if she decides to replace his knives. It's only my issue that she lives a very cushy lifestyle but expects others to pay for her decision to replace his knives.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 7, 2021 23:17:57 GMT
I am curious....
If the amount of donations collected exceed the cost of the knives, who gets to keep the extra money....Mother or Son?
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Post by Night Owl on Apr 7, 2021 23:23:03 GMT
I am curious.... If the amount of donations collected exceed the cost of the knives, who gets to keep the extra money....Mother or Son? She can start hiding 20 dollar bills in her family's clothes ala Dear Lizzy.
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Post by basketdiva on Apr 8, 2021 0:01:28 GMT
I am curious.... If the amount of donations collected exceed the cost of the knives, who gets to keep the extra money....Mother or Son? Someone posted here a reply from her about this issue: "She said she was going to donate the excess donations to those struggling in the food industry"
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Post by cbscrapper on Apr 8, 2021 0:09:22 GMT
I am curious.... If the amount of donations collected exceed the cost of the knives, who gets to keep the extra money....Mother or Son? Someone posted here a reply from her about this issue: "She said she was going to donate the excess donations to those struggling in the food industry" So, probably her son then.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 8, 2021 0:11:17 GMT
Now I have questions, just because I am nosy. What empire did her father-in-law start? Is it common to hyphenate names in Utah? IS this because she's related to the political Romneys? It’s something to do with cleaning... I think he started a cleaning company that got really big, and then he also did videos and books. My in-laws were big fans of his. 😬 No, hyphenating is not at all common, but the name Romney definitely has cachet with Mormons in Utah, and a history of prominence. I believe she and Mitt are cousins.
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Post by AmandaA on Apr 8, 2021 0:50:23 GMT
If my father-in-law owned a house like that, he would be the first one I'd ask for help. Oh no, wait, our kids would find a way to replace something they were careless with. We would help them, of course, but they would be expected to do their part. This whole thing is so disgusting on so many levels. Thirty years old? This is why some people never grow up and become responsible adults. #takecareofyourshit You have to wonder why they didn’t go to the FIL for a loan to purchase the knives. Maybe Max has been bailed out one too many times during his 30 years & the father-in-law refused to help. Pure speculation on my part, but why go panhandling when you have resources within your own family? Because getting a “loan” from a family member would entail some sort or responsibility to repay said loan... and probably a certain level of scrutiny for one’s shall we say lifestyle choices during the time they are in debt to that person. Now strangers on the internet sending you money? #thankyousuckers and you are free to jet off on holiday #problemsolved #blessedofcourse
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 8, 2021 8:32:28 GMT
What's up with her husband not wearing a mask on the plane? Let me guess... He's fully vaccinated so it's all fine now? No. Not how science works. The gram isn't worth it.
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