JustTricia
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Post by JustTricia on Apr 8, 2021 11:37:59 GMT
I have not read the last forty or so posts.
I was one of the first people to post saying a trip to Hawaii would have taken me years and my extra money depleted. I had not looked at her IG further than the money ask post.
I fully agree with the way the Colin Kartchner post has gone. The way Lizzy has acted has been gross and does not seem to be the best for her kids.
But man, do I see this request differently than most of you seem to.
Her asking for the money? Considering all I’ve read above about the trips to Hawaii and nails done and purses, I get it. Agreed. She should not have asked for it.
But the hate for the son? I don’t get it. He has not posted, as has been pointed out above. He hasn’t thanked anyone, given his side, he’s done nothing on her posts as far as I’ve seen.
Maybe he doesn’t know.
Maybe she did offer and he said he’d come up with the money on his own so she started this without him. Maybe he decided this wasn’t the right career path for him and he’s not planning on replacing the knives. Maybe he’s severely depressed and this was his last straw and he’s giving up.
Chef knives are not cheap and to work in a good restaurant you can’t buy just a few and then build your stash back up. If two applicants came to the job, one fully kitted, the other with four knives, guess who would have a better advantage?
Mental health issues have gotten so much more prevalent since the pandemic started. I have never struggled for more than a few days around my period before and I’ve been struggling for months now. But hey, a grown man should have known better to guard his stuff, right?
Someone above mentioned her daughter turned her back for a second and her laptop was stolen.
Say someone came on here and said she had lost her job over the pandemic and started an Etsy business making stickers to make ends meet. She was carrying a bunch of things back to her apartment, set her bag down in the hallway for two seconds to unlock her door, and someone ran off with her laptop bag. She comes on to tell us this and to say she had only started out, had already depleted her savings to pay rent and eat, and had not been able to afford insurance yet. Would we all tell her she should have had it insured; she should have watched it better; she should have acted like the 30 year old she was?
Someone above mentioned she couldn’t imagine someone in their 30s who couldn’t sell some things quickly to make $1000. Me, now you’ve met me. Because after my divorce I sold everything I could. A few years later when I needed money for an emergency again I had already sold everything of value except my car.
My parents live in a 3500 sq foot very nice home. They have nice cars. They go out to eat.all.the.time. They buy everything they could ever want and need. They go on lots of vacations (pre-pandemic).
I live with them. According to several posts above that makes me affluent. Nope. I live with them because I can’t afford to live on my own. I don’t take any more of their money than the utilities to live there. Just because they can afford the things they can and do does not in any way mean I can take ten vacations a year. But if they had a house in Hawaii? I’d save up for years and go there on vacation. Their vacation house would be theirs; I would be borrowing it.
I don’t know, calling this 30 year old a grifter, saying he needs to grow up and take care of himself, all without having any knowledge of how he feels about what his mom did, all feels wrong to me. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be judged because of my pro-Trump, stuck in the 50s, old white man of a father since his views and mine could not BE more different.
And if I’m wrong and he posts thanking everyone from his new Massarati in Hawaii, I will eat my words.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 8, 2021 14:12:28 GMT
I have not read the last forty or so posts. I was one of the first people to post saying a trip to Hawaii would have taken me years and my extra money depleted. I had not looked at her IG further than the money ask post. I fully agree with the way the Colin Kartchner post has gone. The way Lizzy has acted has been gross and does not seem to be the best for her kids. But man, do I see this request differently than most of you seem to. Her asking for the money? Considering all I’ve read above about the trips to Hawaii and nails done and purses, I get it. Agreed. She should not have asked for it. But the hate for the son? I don’t get it. He has not posted, as has been pointed out above. He hasn’t thanked anyone, given his side, he’s done nothing on her posts as far as I’ve seen. Maybe he doesn’t know. Maybe she did offer and he said he’d come up with the money on his own so she started this without him. Maybe he decided this wasn’t the right career path for him and he’s not planning on replacing the knives. Maybe he’s severely depressed and this was his last straw and he’s giving up. Chef knives are not cheap and to work in a good restaurant you can’t buy just a few and then build your stash back up. If two applicants came to the job, one fully kitted, the other with four knives, guess who would have a better advantage? Mental health issues have gotten so much more prevalent since the pandemic started. I have never struggled for more than a few days around my period before and I’ve been struggling for months now. But hey, a grown man should have known better to guard his stuff, right? Someone above mentioned her daughter turned her back for a second and her laptop was stolen. Say someone came on here and said she had lost her job over the pandemic and started an Etsy business making stickers to make ends meet. She was carrying a bunch of things back to her apartment, set her bag down in the hallway for two seconds to unlock her door, and someone ran off with her laptop bag. She comes on to tell us this and to say she had only started out, had already depleted her savings to pay rent and eat, and had not been able to afford insurance yet. Would we all tell her she should have had it insured; she should have watched it better; she should have acted like the 30 year old she was? Someone above mentioned she couldn’t imagine someone in their 30s who couldn’t sell some things quickly to make $1000. Me, now you’ve met me. Because after my divorce I sold everything I could. A few years later when I needed money for an emergency again I had already sold everything of value except my car. My parents live in a 3500 sq foot very nice home. They have nice cars. They go out to eat.all.the.time. They buy everything they could ever want and need. They go on lots of vacations (pre-pandemic). I live with them. According to several posts above that makes me affluent. Nope. I live with them because I can’t afford to live on my own. I don’t take any more of their money than the utilities to live there. Just because they can afford the things they can and do does not in any way mean I can take ten vacations a year. But if they had a house in Hawaii? I’d save up for years and go there on vacation. Their vacation house would be theirs; I would be borrowing it. I don’t know, calling this 30 year old a grifter, saying he needs to grow up and take care of himself, all without having any knowledge of how he feels about what his mom did, all feels wrong to me. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be judged because of my pro-Trump, stuck in the 50s, old white man of a father since his views and mine could not BE more different. And if I’m wrong and he posts thanking everyone from his new Massarati in Hawaii, I will eat my words. I think you are reading a lot of the other pea posts incorrectly. People are calling MRA a grifter, not her son. No one is hating on him and many peas have said that he may not have any idea of what is going on. No one has ever said he was affluent, they are saying his parents are. Not sure how you made that mistake or leap to the comparison that anyone would think you were affluent and could take 10 vacations a year because your parents are well off. Everyone has said it is ridiculous for MRA to claim SHE can’t replace his knife roll when SHE is getting monthly expensive hair treatments and SHE is going to Hawaii for an extended vacation for at least the 2nd time this year and SHE lives in an expensive home. Don’t even get me started on her post asking her followers to give up their Starbucks to fund her son’s knife roll as she is packing for a trip to Hawaii.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 8, 2021 15:05:36 GMT
Don’t even get me started on her post asking her followers to give up their Starbucks to fund her son’s knife roll as she is packing for a trip to Hawaii. seriously. people should really read the entire thread before posting an indignant reply. (I know I've done it before, too, on occasion- but I do try not to.)
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Apr 8, 2021 15:10:06 GMT
I’m not seeing hate for the son. Do I think what comes up on a google search adds another dimension to this story? Absolutely. But the astonishment and grossness in this whole thing, for me, is squarely on her shoulders.
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JustTricia
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Post by JustTricia on Apr 8, 2021 15:38:12 GMT
I have not read the last forty or so posts. I was one of the first people to post saying a trip to Hawaii would have taken me years and my extra money depleted. I had not looked at her IG further than the money ask post. I fully agree with the way the Colin Kartchner post has gone. The way Lizzy has acted has been gross and does not seem to be the best for her kids. But man, do I see this request differently than most of you seem to. Her asking for the money? Considering all I’ve read above about the trips to Hawaii and nails done and purses, I get it. Agreed. She should not have asked for it. But the hate for the son? I don’t get it. He has not posted, as has been pointed out above. He hasn’t thanked anyone, given his side, he’s done nothing on her posts as far as I’ve seen. Maybe he doesn’t know. Maybe she did offer and he said he’d come up with the money on his own so she started this without him. Maybe he decided this wasn’t the right career path for him and he’s not planning on replacing the knives. Maybe he’s severely depressed and this was his last straw and he’s giving up. Chef knives are not cheap and to work in a good restaurant you can’t buy just a few and then build your stash back up. If two applicants came to the job, one fully kitted, the other with four knives, guess who would have a better advantage? Mental health issues have gotten so much more prevalent since the pandemic started. I have never struggled for more than a few days around my period before and I’ve been struggling for months now. But hey, a grown man should have known better to guard his stuff, right? Someone above mentioned her daughter turned her back for a second and her laptop was stolen. Say someone came on here and said she had lost her job over the pandemic and started an Etsy business making stickers to make ends meet. She was carrying a bunch of things back to her apartment, set her bag down in the hallway for two seconds to unlock her door, and someone ran off with her laptop bag. She comes on to tell us this and to say she had only started out, had already depleted her savings to pay rent and eat, and had not been able to afford insurance yet. Would we all tell her she should have had it insured; she should have watched it better; she should have acted like the 30 year old she was? Someone above mentioned she couldn’t imagine someone in their 30s who couldn’t sell some things quickly to make $1000. Me, now you’ve met me. Because after my divorce I sold everything I could. A few years later when I needed money for an emergency again I had already sold everything of value except my car. My parents live in a 3500 sq foot very nice home. They have nice cars. They go out to eat.all.the.time. They buy everything they could ever want and need. They go on lots of vacations (pre-pandemic). I live with them. According to several posts above that makes me affluent. Nope. I live with them because I can’t afford to live on my own. I don’t take any more of their money than the utilities to live there. Just because they can afford the things they can and do does not in any way mean I can take ten vacations a year. But if they had a house in Hawaii? I’d save up for years and go there on vacation. Their vacation house would be theirs; I would be borrowing it. I don’t know, calling this 30 year old a grifter, saying he needs to grow up and take care of himself, all without having any knowledge of how he feels about what his mom did, all feels wrong to me. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be judged because of my pro-Trump, stuck in the 50s, old white man of a father since his views and mine could not BE more different. And if I’m wrong and he posts thanking everyone from his new Massarati in Hawaii, I will eat my words. I think you are reading a lot of the other pea posts incorrectly. People are calling MRA a grifter, not her son. No one is hating on him and many peas have said that he may not have any idea of what is going on. No one has ever said he was affluent, they are saying his parents are. Not sure how you made that mistake or leap to the comparison that anyone would think you were affluent and could take 10 vacations a year because your parents are well off. Everyone has said it is ridiculous for MRA to claim SHE can’t replace his knife roll when SHE is getting monthly expensive hair treatments and SHE is going to Hawaii for an extended vacation for at least the 2nd time this year and SHE lives in an expensive home. Don’t even get me started on her post asking her followers to give up their Starbucks to fund her son’s knife roll as she is packing for a trip to Hawaii. People on this thread are also saying he shouldn’t be crying to his mom; he should have had an emergency fund; he should have had his tools insured; “here’s what’s happened to my kids during the pandemic and what they did about it for themselves;” he should have taken better care of his knives; he doesn’t need that expensive of knives; he doesn’t need that many knives; he should be getting unemployment; let’s stalk his Instagram; look at their lifestyle, they can afford it. THOSE are the comments I’m referring to. Just because his parents are affluent does not mean that he has an emergency fund; that he could afford insurance on his knives; that he doesn’t live in a sketchy neighborhood because that’s all he can afford; he may have had a large emergency fund that he has now depleted due to being out of a job for a year. He may have turned down every offer of money from his family because he is a grown ass adult and wants to take care of his own bills. I never said SHE couldn’t afford it or should not have posted this. I actually said she shouldn’t have. What I said was just because SHE can afford it doesn’t mean that he will take her money. We don’t know what is going on in his head. She sucks for doing this. Absolutely. But he may know nothing about this. So judging his lack of an emergency fund or insurance or him because of this is unfair to him. And that is happening on this thread.
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Post by questioning on Apr 8, 2021 15:40:59 GMT
JustTricia I agree with your comment that his parent's wealth is not his - as most of us do (I assume). Please let us know what you think after reading all posts. Criticism is being directed to his mother for soliciting a handout. @skelliton, your summary is spot on. ETA - I was typing as you posted, thanks for clarifying.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 8, 2021 15:52:26 GMT
But he may know nothing about this. So judging his lack of an emergency fund or insurance or him because of this is unfair to him. And that is happening on this thread. I will clarify the emergency fund issue since I was the first to bring it up on page 1: I clearly said I hoped he'd learn to grow one (if he hasn't already) since it'a a major life skill, period. I'm just a few years older than he is but I spent the last few years working on mine and I'm so glad I did. It's a game changer, even just psychologically, especially for those of us who cannot count on wealthy family or other generous donators. There was no (intentional) shaming in my tone.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 8, 2021 15:54:51 GMT
people should really read the entire thread before posting an indignant reply. (I know I've done it before, too, on occasion- but I do try not to.) Happens to the best of us. Especially with topics that hit an emotional nerve. You just relate to those in such a quick and passionate manner. I get it (and I've definitely been there, done that).
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Post by hop2 on Apr 8, 2021 16:40:38 GMT
I don’t think anything about her son good, bad, or otherwise. I don’t know anything about him other than he is Max, I have no idea.
My comment about my adult kids are tongue in cheek joking that I guess I missed opportunities to crowd fund off of my kids life happenings. You know, life happenings many of us have and deal with. I don’t think it’s appropriate to use my kids as fodder for sympathy to beg on the internet for money. You don’t use your kids like that.
I wasn’t initially too terribly annoyed by her IG post, but then as it went on & on I got annoyed. Being that she is off to Hawaii AGAIN! I sure hope Max agreed to be internet fodder for his mother otherwise it’s really an invasion of privacy.
But ultimately the people who venmo’ d her the money are free to do as they please.
And I am free to be snarky about it.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 8, 2021 18:08:03 GMT
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 8, 2021 20:05:01 GMT
now we have to worry about DOG influencers, too? honestly, I'd be more inclined to believe a cute dog than most human influencers, lol.
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Post by FurryP on Apr 8, 2021 21:34:10 GMT
Awww...I can't see nothing. And I am logged in to IG too.
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Post by Night Owl on Apr 8, 2021 22:29:12 GMT
Cute! I watch Chunk the Groundhog eat every day on Instagram. I need to get a life.
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Post by frenchie on Apr 8, 2021 23:11:40 GMT
Cute! I watch Chunk the Groundhog eat every day on Instagram. I need to get a life. Me too!
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 9, 2021 0:09:10 GMT
Cute! I watch Chunk the Groundhog eat every day on Instagram. I need to get a life. Me three. I love him. And he does influence me to up my veg intake. Watching him smash a tomato in his mouth gets me every time.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 9, 2021 0:37:13 GMT
Awww...I can't see nothing. And I am logged in to IG too. Tinker bell the dog prepping food - with her knife roll
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 9, 2021 1:02:04 GMT
My parents live in a 3500 sq foot very nice home. They have nice cars. They go out to eat.all.the.time. They buy everything they could ever want and need. They go on lots of vacations (pre-pandemic). I live with them. According to several posts above that makes me affluent. Nope. I live with them because I can’t afford to live on my own. I definitely wouldn’t call you affluent because you’re living with your parents. But, just the fact that you are living with them, presumably rent-free, does give you a financial advantage over other people who have rent or mortgage payments. And that’s a bit of a privileged place to be. Not everyone has parents with the means to provide housing and support for their children. Just like MRA going to Hawaii: A trip there is probably quite inexpensive for them... really, you’re talking a few hundred for a plane ticket, plus food/entertainment, which you would, presumably, be spending part of that money on food at home anyway, yeah? But, the fact that they’re not needing to spend thousands for a rental while they are there is privileged. The fact that they work jobs that enable them to take a month off multiple times a year, or work remotely, is privileged. And if you have that privilege, I, personally, think it’s tacky as hell to ask others for help.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 9, 2021 1:21:07 GMT
imagine being an adult and having your mommy's ~followers~ pay for your own property? grift of the century. maybe he didn't know about it? I dunno... just a guess. I certainly wouldn't want my mom asking for a handout for me. This type of thing is why my DH says that sometimes he wants to try it for himself as an experiment... stand on the side of the road, dressed in a nice dress shirt and khaki pants, with a sign that says 'Want to drive a Maserati - help me out' and just see what happens. (yeah, we both have jobs, but we'd like NICER stuff, you know? and hey, if we don't have to WORK for it, even better!!) Maybe I should take a picture of him looking all pathetic sitting in his used Volvo, and post it on Instagram instead. whaddya think? Sometimes we get a few guys with a sign that says, "Not gunna lie, I need money for weed." I always wonder if they get any.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 9, 2021 1:23:12 GMT
Well, I've already had my Starbucks today but I'll think about sacrificing it tomorrow. #decaffeinateforafriend Will a Sonic Tea count? I only splurge during the half-price happy hour - but every little bit to help the needy. Get the app. Every drink is half price all day!
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Post by joblackford on Apr 9, 2021 1:29:05 GMT
Now I have questions, just because I am nosy. What empire did her father-in-law start? Is it common to hyphenate names in Utah? IS this because she's related to the political Romneys? It’s something to do with cleaning... I think he started a cleaning company that got really big, and then he also did videos and books. My in-laws were big fans of his. 😬 No, hyphenating is not at all common, but the name Romney definitely has cachet with Mormons in Utah, and a history of prominence. I believe she and Mitt are cousins. Oh, I've shelved (and read) a ton of his cleaning books at the library! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_AslettIt looks like you can buy every imaginable cleaning supply with his name on it.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 9, 2021 3:06:45 GMT
I think I read one of his books years ago. Some of his suggestions were not practical at all. I think one was to have your chairs attached to your kitchen table in order to clean underneath the table better.
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Post by mom on Apr 9, 2021 15:11:29 GMT
Welp....my son has to register for classes tomorrow. Anyone want to throw some moolah my way for tuition? #askingforafriend Don't get me going on this one...I sacrificed a lot to help pay for my son's tuition...clearly, I did it wrong... Girl, same. DS gets some academic scholarships but the bulk comes from us. No loans either. Apparently I should have been asking my social media friends.
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Post by mom on Apr 9, 2021 15:22:07 GMT
I think I read one of his books years ago. Some of his suggestions were not practical at all. I think one was to have your chairs attached to your kitchen table in order to clean underneath the table better. Yeah, in the wiki article it notes the house in Hawaii has no chair legs or table legs to help with cleaning. Notes[edit] ^ For instance, everything is suspended or built-in in the house in Hawaii. There are no table or chair legs in the house that need to be moved for cleaning. In the bathrooms, the toilets are wall-mounted, the sinks are deep to avoid splashing, and there are no shower curtains. He worked with his daughter who is an interior decorator on the project.[10]
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Post by jediannie on Apr 9, 2021 15:42:11 GMT
I definitely wouldn’t call you affluent because you’re living with your parents. But, just the fact that you are living with them, presumably rent-free, does give you a financial advantage over other people who have rent or mortgage payments. And that’s a bit of a privileged place to be. Not everyone has parents with the means to provide housing and support for their children. Just like MRA going to Hawaii: A trip there is probably quite inexpensive for them... really, you’re talking a few hundred for a plane ticket, plus food/entertainment, which you would, presumably, be spending part of that money on food at home anyway, yeah? But, the fact that they’re not needing to spend thousands for a rental while they are there is privileged. The fact that they work jobs that enable them to take a month off multiple times a year, or work remotely, is privileged. And if you have that privilege, I, personally, think it’s tacky as hell to ask others for help. Yes to this. My parents are dead and never had a lot of money when they were alive so when I was struggling financially years ago I ended up couch surfing and sleeping in my car for a while until I was able to save enough for rent. Privilege is not to say you are wealthy, you just have opportunities for help that others don't.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 9, 2021 15:46:24 GMT
oh, I've seen some of those books at the library! never read any of them, but I've seen them. And that sounds like a very uninviting house.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 9, 2021 15:49:18 GMT
I think I read one of his books years ago. Some of his suggestions were not practical at all. I think one was to have your chairs attached to your kitchen table in order to clean underneath the table better. Yeah, in the wiki article it notes the house in Hawaii has no chair legs or table legs to help with cleaning. Notes[edit] ^ For instance, everything is suspended or built-in in the house in Hawaii. There are no table or chair legs in the house that need to be moved for cleaning. In the bathrooms, the toilets are wall-mounted, the sinks are deep to avoid splashing, and there are no shower curtains. He worked with his daughter who is an interior decorator on the project.[10] OFFS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 15:58:18 GMT
I definitely wouldn’t call you affluent because you’re living with your parents. But, just the fact that you are living with them, presumably rent-free, does give you a financial advantage over other people who have rent or mortgage payments. And that’s a bit of a privileged place to be. Not everyone has parents with the means to provide housing and support for their children. Just like MRA going to Hawaii: A trip there is probably quite inexpensive for them... really, you’re talking a few hundred for a plane ticket, plus food/entertainment, which you would, presumably, be spending part of that money on food at home anyway, yeah? But, the fact that they’re not needing to spend thousands for a rental while they are there is privileged. The fact that they work jobs that enable them to take a month off multiple times a year, or work remotely, is privileged. And if you have that privilege, I, personally, think it’s tacky as hell to ask others for help. Yes to this. My parents are dead and never had a lot of money when they were alive so when I was struggling financially years ago I ended up couch surfing and sleeping in my car for a while until I was able to save enough for rent. Privilege is not to say you are wealthy, you just have opportunities for help that others don't. exactly!
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Post by KikiPea on Apr 9, 2021 16:12:14 GMT
DH just got a work bonus. We have things we need to get done around the house, but we also have our 25th wedding anniversary coming up in October. Should I put up a GFM for the house work, or the anniversary trip??? Inquiring minds wanna know. 🤪😉🙄🤣
OH ETA: We also have to replace several bushes from snowmageddon. Please HELP!!! No kids to put up for begging purposes.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 9, 2021 16:13:17 GMT
I think I read one of his books years ago. Some of his suggestions were not practical at all. I think one was to have your chairs attached to your kitchen table in order to clean underneath the table better. Yeah, in the wiki article it notes the house in Hawaii has no chair legs or table legs to help with cleaning. Notes[edit] ^ For instance, everything is suspended or built-in in the house in Hawaii. There are no table or chair legs in the house that need to be moved for cleaning. In the bathrooms, the toilets are wall-mounted, the sinks are deep to avoid splashing, and there are no shower curtains. He worked with his daughter who is an interior decorator on the project.[10] Oh man, that is my DREAM!! lol. The wall mounted toilet with the tank hidden in the wall is pretty standard in other countries, along with wall hung cabinets and vanities, and it's amazing. Just being able to run a mop around the floor without hitting legs and bases, no weird edges to gather hair and dust and pee splashes, no caulking to attempt to clean... I will tolerate chair legs around a table, but if I could sweep and mop the kitchen, bathroom, and laundry room (if I had one) without moving anything I would be at least 68% happier. It makes rooms look a lot bigger too, if very few things touch the floor.
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Post by KikiPea on Apr 9, 2021 16:27:15 GMT
Yeah, in the wiki article it notes the house in Hawaii has no chair legs or table legs to help with cleaning. Notes[edit] ^ For instance, everything is suspended or built-in in the house in Hawaii. There are no table or chair legs in the house that need to be moved for cleaning. In the bathrooms, the toilets are wall-mounted, the sinks are deep to avoid splashing, and there are no shower curtains. He worked with his daughter who is an interior decorator on the project.[10] Oh man, that is my DREAM!! lol. The wall mounted toilet with the tank hidden in the wall is pretty standard in other countries, along with wall hung cabinets and vanities, and it's amazing. Just being able to run a mop around the floor without hitting legs and bases, no weird edges to gather hair and dust and pee splashes, no caulking to attempt to clean... I will tolerate chair legs around a table, but if I could sweep and mop the kitchen, bathroom, and laundry room (if I had one) without moving anything I would be at least 68% happier. It makes rooms look a lot bigger too, if very few things touch the floor. How do you fix the toilet of the tank is in the wall?
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