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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 7, 2021 16:04:35 GMT
DS (just turned 18) had a well "child" appt today. They tested his blood pressure three times and it was high all three times. The doctor told him to come back in two weeks just for a BP check and we will go from there. She asked if he took any creatine or other supplements and he said that he had some Bang and a pre-workout that his friend had last week. He says he only took it a few times so it seems that wouldn't be making his BP high now, more than a week later. But I am curious if others have any experience with this? She also obviously talked to him about his diet.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 7, 2021 16:10:28 GMT
If it's still high when you go back, the doctor should check his kidney function. High creatinine levels in urine/blood indicate kidney issues, which lead to hypertension.
Conversely, untreated hypertension can damage kidneys, leading to high creatinine levels.
I am sure you have spoken to your DS to never, ever take supplements not prescribed by a doctor. They are pretty much unregulated and you really don't know what was in what he got from his friend.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 7, 2021 16:19:12 GMT
They did do bloodwork, but I don't know the results. Creatine is different than creatinine. Creatine is something that is supposed to help with muscle building. Bang is a drink that apparently teens like. You can get it at the grocery store but I have looked at it in the past and it had a ton of caffeine. Last week when I was in the car with he and his two friends, I heard one of them talk about how much Bang he had had in the last week and it was crazy. I guess it also has creatine in it. I told DS (again) not to drink that and to encourage his friends not to as well.
DS's BP might not be a problem, and if it is, it might not be related to the drink/pre-workout. But, I am tempted to just let the other parents know but is that overstepping and being too much of a helicopter parent?
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 7, 2021 16:44:55 GMT
They did do bloodwork, but I don't know the results. Creatine is different than creatinine. Creatine is something that is supposed to help with muscle building. Bang is a drink that apparently teens like. You can get it at the grocery store but I have looked at it in the past and it had a ton of caffeine. Last week when I was in the car with he and his two friends, I heard one of them talk about how much Bang he had had in the last week and it was crazy. I guess it also has creatine in it. I told DS (again) not to drink that and to encourage his friends not to as well. DS's BP might not be a problem, and if it is, it might not be related to the drink/pre-workout. But, I am tempted to just let the other parents know but is that overstepping and being too much of a helicopter parent? I would probably wait until the second check. Caffeine consumption can raise your blood pressure. I do think it would make sense to give the coach a heads up that the kids are drinking these energy drinks. When DS played football in HS, they had to sign something saying they wouldn’t use some kinds of energy drinks because of the caffeine levels. At 18, I would send him in to the doctor’s alone. That may make him more forthcoming with information to the doc. At that age, I would wait in the waiting room or outside the exam room in case a kid wanted me for something (it was usually follow up questions). |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 7, 2021 17:28:45 GMT
It could be related to the sports drinks he is drinking. I know your kids are in to big time sports, so it also could be related to dehydration, drinking just water, vs those other caffeinated drinks. I know kids say they drink/eat such and such like last wk, but what did he drink yesterday? They seem to forget things a lot.....
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 7, 2021 17:35:02 GMT
They did do bloodwork, but I don't know the results. Creatine is different than creatinine. Creatine is something that is supposed to help with muscle building. Bang is a drink that apparently teens like. You can get it at the grocery store but I have looked at it in the past and it had a ton of caffeine. Last week when I was in the car with he and his two friends, I heard one of them talk about how much Bang he had had in the last week and it was crazy. I guess it also has creatine in it. I told DS (again) not to drink that and to encourage his friends not to as well. DS's BP might not be a problem, and if it is, it might not be related to the drink/pre-workout. But, I am tempted to just let the other parents know but is that overstepping and being too much of a helicopter parent? I would probably wait until the second check. Caffeine consumption can raise your blood pressure. I do think it would make sense to give the coach a heads up that the kids are drinking these energy drinks. When DS played football in HS, they had to sign something saying they wouldn’t use some kinds of energy drinks because of the caffeine levels. At 18, I would send him in to the doctor’s alone. That may make him more forthcoming with information to the doc. At that age, I would wait in the waiting room or outside the exam room in case a kid wanted me for something (it was usually follow up questions). I did wait in the waiting area for a good portion but this was a new dr and he wanted me to be in there to start. He wouldn’t have known most of the family history questions. The nurse checked his BP but then the doctor apparently didn’t notice it until I asked about it. She said to come back when he wasn’t potentially nervous about shots and the appt, but also asked about the supplements. Generally, I think he is honest and I don’t think he is taking supplements regularly. But he could be drinking Bang more than he said. I’ll talk with my 16year old about it tonight as well. They are advertised as “healthy energy” but they have 300mg caffeine. I’m not sure what the pre-workout was that his friend had. |
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Apr 7, 2021 18:35:28 GMT
A lot of people have "white coat" syndrome - just going to the doctor gets their blood pressure up (I am one of those). If you have a monitor, I would take his blood pressure at home some to set a baseline.
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Post by 16joy on Apr 7, 2021 21:37:03 GMT
Get a blood pressure cuff and have him check it a couple of times everyday. You will get an idea Of what his current normal is at home. I’d also compare the morning reading versus his evening reading. Kids drink those little bottles of caffeine by the cash registers at convenience stores.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 7, 2021 22:06:11 GMT
We have a blood pressure cuff but last time we used it it seemed like the numbers were all over the place because he and dh were high. We didn’t think it was possible that ds was high but maybe that was accurate after all.
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Post by gina on Apr 7, 2021 23:53:20 GMT
Bang is all over Tik Tok and touted as a fun, energy drink for teens. My husband and I buy it ocassionally but we do not let any of our kids (teens) drink it. Maybe he had more then he remembers/is telling you. Hopefully the second reading is better!
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Post by tkdmom on Apr 8, 2021 0:05:27 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 8, 2021 1:22:33 GMT
I did not/do not allow ky kids to use creatine as this was one of many issues for teens. Ds's football coach suggested it and I was like he'll no!
Also the energy drinks can do a number on kids, there are countless stories of teens who drink energy drinks ending up in the hospital.
Mix the two, and there is a higher chance for an issue.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 8, 2021 11:58:08 GMT
They did do bloodwork, but I don't know the results. Creatine is different than creatinine. Creatine is something that is supposed to help with muscle building. Bang is a drink that apparently teens like. You can get it at the grocery store but I have looked at it in the past and it had a ton of caffeine. Last week when I was in the car with he and his two friends, I heard one of them talk about how much Bang he had had in the last week and it was crazy. I guess it also has creatine in it. I told DS (again) not to drink that and to encourage his friends not to as well. DS's BP might not be a problem, and if it is, it might not be related to the drink/pre-workout. But, I am tempted to just let the other parents know but is that overstepping and being too much of a helicopter parent? You are correct about the differences, of course. I don't know if high levels of creatine can affect kidney function. I'd still make sure they follow up on his kidney function, should his BP be high again. |
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Post by my3freaks on Apr 8, 2021 20:58:38 GMT
I don't know anything about the supplements, but I hate energy drinks. I think they're marketed at teens, a lot of them come in huge cans so they're multiple servings per can and they're horrible for them. My daughter drinks Monster everyday and it drives me nuts. It's possible that his blood pressure was high b/c of those. www.sharp.com/health-news/are-energy-drinks-bad-for-teens.cfm. I hope everything is. I know there are cases of teen athletes having unknown heart issues (cardio myopothy's often), so following up isn't a bad idea. I can NOT believe he is 18!!! Maybe you did the math wrong.  |
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