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Post by malibou on Apr 24, 2021 7:33:55 GMT
I'm not a big fan of camping after being in the Army, but Dh and Ds do it often. They actually really like the dehydrated meals. Particularly pasta ones.
I'm always surprised by how cold it is in the morning, so pack a beanie.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Apr 24, 2021 9:57:47 GMT
That’s kind of hardcore for someone who doesn’t camp much. I never sleep well that exposed. Car or tent camping might be a better way to start, but since you’re already set on this my advice would to consider warmth and staying dry a top priority. Get a really warm sleeping bag and maybe even bring extra clothes you keep in the car just in case.
As for food, I like to do “camping” food with most prep work done at home, like creating those foil packets with chicken or fish, veggies, spices, and a little butter, then cooking over the fire. Or steak and a can of baked beans and a salad. Walking tacos. Pie iron grilled cheese. Hamburgers. I usually bring a cut-up watermelon, or big bowl of fruit salad. And for breakfast we do pancakes or eggs and steak in a cast iron pan. It’s unnecessary, and sandwiches and granola bars would be so much easier, but to me it’s half the fun of camping.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 24, 2021 10:16:41 GMT
Mummy sleeping bags/sleeping pads/backpack Hanging nets/carbiners to hang backpacks, etc off ground Bug/tick repellent Layers, layers, layers (what is your general location?) If you have to have coffee in the mornings, you'll need a hot pot. actually, this is a good idea to have to warm water for oatmeals, porridges, soup packets, etc. Bucket for washing clothesline/pins for hanging wet things firestarters/propane match fire grate WATER
Food - oatmeals, ramen packets, protein bars, things like that. If you're really energetic, food save some simple meals and then drop into boiling water to heat. Remember, everything you bring in must come back out. Nice there is a trash there.
I'll keep thinking.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Apr 24, 2021 10:58:01 GMT
4 days. Heavily wooded area. Wooden lean to shelter with an open front with overhanging roof. Three sided log cabin style look. 18 inches off ground with wooden floor. I've done a fair amount of camping but when you said teen and then added the above items, that would be a hard pass for me. LOL Because of the open shelter, I would bring lots of layers, perhaps a tarp to stake over the open bit in case it rains, and bear spray
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Post by hookturnian on Apr 24, 2021 12:20:05 GMT
Mosquito repellant and something to stop bites from itching. I would maybe get a festival tent to keep the warmth in and the mosquitoes out. (Suspiciously specific advice because I'm very popular with mosquitoes)
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 24, 2021 12:25:54 GMT
The last time we camped I did three meals. One was chili. I prepared the chili and corn muffins ahead of time. We cooked the chili in a dutch oven and warmed the corn muffins on our campers side grill. Then I was sausage and sauerkraut. Super easy in a dutch oven. But the recipe everyone raved about was the jambalaya I made. Here's the recipe I used: 50campfires.com/dutch-oven-jambalaya/
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Post by purplebee on Apr 24, 2021 13:01:03 GMT
Air mattresses and a hand pump to blow them up. That wooden floor will get hard.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 24, 2021 13:30:09 GMT
DH does a lot of camping with the Boy Scouts, even years after DS went away to college. He loves camping and i hate it, so it works for me. He loves his meals out camping and the adult leaders always made really good meals. I guess being outside really works up an appetite. I would do all of the meal prep that I possibly could do ahead of time, including anything that cooks for a long time (like the chili above). If it rains, you still have food. Definitely do all the cutting and meat prep ahead since it’s a PITA to haul water and heat it to wash hands and dishes properly any more than you have to do. I’d also add in some disposable gloves to help with sanitation. You can freeze meals or the meat to help keep things cold.
Do you have your own shelter or will you be sharing with others? Consider privacy issues with dressing, washing up, and toileting.
You’re definitely going to want air mattresses. Bring a blanket or tarp to keep under the mattress to keep it from getting punctures from splinters.
Dress in layers. It will get hot fast once the sun comes up and cool down fast when it sets. Or it will be humid and a billion degrees—you’ll know that as the date gets closer.
A ball cap will help if it rains, even under a rain jacket. Especially if you wear glasses.
For the first time, I’d probably consider and earlier trip to test the waters before you spend 4 days outdoors. And make it only a day or two. Discuss ahead what your parameters are to bail out. Third day straight of rain? Bugs horrible? A skunk visitor? Is a trip to town or a visitor center a possibility mid trip to get out of the dirt?
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Post by freeatlast on Apr 24, 2021 15:03:07 GMT
Lantern and/or flashlights. Especially for those trips to the outhouse after dark.
Something to do if it rains - cards, board game.
Binoculars.
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Post by Zee on Apr 24, 2021 15:22:06 GMT
Since you're packing it in a half mile, keep it simple. I'd do dehydrated pasta meals, dry things that don't need to be refrigerated like pb/j and bread with chips and cookies, granola bars, a loaf of cinnamon raisin bread for breakfast, etc. Plus water and Gatorade or something like that.
You can get pads to put under your sleeping bags (air mattresses are a little much if you're packing in and would have to pump them up yourself). Look into a mosquito net to put up over the lean to edge.
Wet wipes to clean yourselves! Don't forget a bandana to tuck away your sweaty hair. Maybe some dry shampoo. Light layers of clothing for day, sweatpants/shirt for night. Lighter fluid and a long lighter will be much appreciated when getting your fire started.
I love being outside and I love camping, enjoy yourself!
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Apr 24, 2021 15:23:29 GMT
S'mores. The prospect of chocolate will help make the other aspects of camping more tolerable.
I am picturing the roving gangs of raccoons as the Jets and the Sharks from West Side Story.
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Post by julie5 on Apr 24, 2021 15:34:13 GMT
We don’t camp, we glamp. So I’m no help. Lol
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Post by ntsf on Apr 24, 2021 16:08:11 GMT
keep your food overnight in your car. keep meals simple.. with hot drinks. sleeping pads, warm sleeping bags (you can make them warmer by wrapping up in a sheet inside bag. or extra blanket. hats, gloves, several layers.. something other than cotton sweatshirt. bug cream. wash bins.. at least one. stove, some pots, rei.com has some good basic camping info articles.
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Post by desertgirl on Apr 24, 2021 18:34:19 GMT
A good water filter. Butt wipes. You should win an award for taking a teen out for the first time. We took ours plenty of times, but she had camped with us from her birth. Maybe the Nobel for Peace? I'd go to REI and ask them to discuss it with you. They'll rent you a bunch of stuff. Mostly, listen. You can fashion stuff out of something at home, like the inside the sleeping bag sheet that ntsf suggested. Rent the stuff you can't. Make this as easy as you can on yourself so y'all can have fun. If there are bear and raccoon problems, they've been habituated already and their fear of humans is gone; the suggestions to keep your food in your car are good ones. We backpacked in Yosemite back in the 80's with friends and a bear came and stole the food bags we had strung up very high on what appeared to be a tightrope. It even punctured my face wash and toothpaste. It ate our friends' special summer sausage hahaha. We could only stay out 2 nights bc of all the food we lost. Each night, we heard the bear in our campsite. Not fun. I hope you enjoy yourselves. I'll be in the audience for your prize ceremony!!
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Post by luckyjune on Apr 24, 2021 19:45:19 GMT
Roving gangs of raccoons are no joke. Back in my camp counselor days, I took a group of kids on a week-long biking trip through the San Juan Islands. I told the kids to make sure they locked all snacks in the sag or we'd get animals. Sure enough, middle of the night I wake up to noises. A raccoon is pawing open the zipper on some kid's triangle bag on their bike to get to the Jolly Rancher candies they had stashed there. Bold little rodents!
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Post by librarylady on Apr 24, 2021 20:07:17 GMT
Where is the camp location? The response for east Texas will be very different from rural Maine or Oregon or New Mexico. I have watched too many crime shows, so.....will cell phone service be available? Any way to call for help if needed (accident or intruders)?
Take food that needs little cooking. Plan on cooking in the foil packages that can be placed in the fire. We loved meat (beef or chicken) with carrots, onions and potatoes cooked in the coals of the fire.
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Post by FurryP on Apr 24, 2021 21:17:26 GMT
I love camping! But no way I'm going where there are bears and racoons with only me and a teen girl, and an open sided shelter. Anyway...bring some folding chairs, even better if you can put your feet up when you want to relax.
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Post by magellen on Apr 24, 2021 21:19:12 GMT
You can do this!
Ask around to see what you can borrow. Especially a tent. And you will need mosquito netting for the front of the lean-to.
You really don’t need a sleeping bag, blankets and sheets are good enough since you will either be taking air mattresses or camp cots.
Tarps at least 2.
Solar lights
A pail
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Post by librarylady on Apr 24, 2021 21:56:23 GMT
Battery operated light/lantern that has a bright light.
DH remarked: If that is her first camping trip, I'd get a site less primitive.
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Post by JavaJones on Apr 24, 2021 21:59:28 GMT
I'm not much of a camper, but make sure you bring an external battery pack so you can charge your phone so you have it for emergencies. I think I need to make jeremysgirl 's jambalaya even though I have no intention of camping in the near or remote future
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Post by ntsf on Apr 24, 2021 22:01:30 GMT
you can put up a tent inside a 3 sided shelter.. have done that in the past. keeps off the bugs. and the dirt.
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Post by tanya2 on Apr 24, 2021 22:03:13 GMT
wow that is ambitious! I'm more of a travel trailer girl, so not much help sorry. Pack lots of layers! It will get more chilly than you think, especially if it is damp. And lots of bug spray
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 24, 2021 22:29:08 GMT
Battery operated light/lantern that has a bright light. DH remarked: If that is her first camping trip, I'd get a site less primitive. Yes, I was just thinking about battery powered lanterns. Amazon has quite a few choices. Bonus, you can use them at home in power outages.
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Post by elaine on Apr 24, 2021 23:26:53 GMT
You can’t bring a cooler with food, unless you can padlock it. The raccoons and bears will destroy anything else that has food in it - hence the locked metal box they provide. If the box is big enough for a cooler, that would be good. But EVERYTHING edible needs to go into it. When I backpacked, one night I forgot the remove the 1/2 packet of Kool-Aid from my pack and put it the bag with the rest of my food that I hung. That night a bear literally ripped my backpack apart to get to the Kool-Aid.
Bring lots of layers. The battery-powered lanterns is a good idea too.
I’d also probably start with less primitive camping as a first-time trip. Minimums for me would be a central regular restroom (with plumbing) and showers. I probably would try someplace with cabins first - 4 walls and a locking door - just to avoid the issues with raccoons and bears. Don’t underestimate the havoc they can wreak.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 25, 2021 12:30:15 GMT
Some camp sites like those shelters are large enough to fit a tent. You need to do some engineering to figure out how to stake it down (important for when you aren’t IN the tent). But it would need to be your own private shelter. I’ve seen people do this on the Appalachian Trail and shelter joggers aren’t looked kindly upon!) I’ve also seen places where a tarp is hung over the entrance. The benefit is more insect control and shelter from the wind and cold.
As for the bear box, the dimensions should be available. That will tell you if the cooler will fit. I’ve seen bears break into cars, but that’s more common in the spring and fall vs mid summer. I would expect the bear box to be large enough to fit at least 2 hiking backpacks, which I would also keep in the bear box if there’s room. That way there’s nothing to forget in your gear.
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Post by caangel on Apr 25, 2021 14:57:14 GMT
If there are bear and raccoon problems, they've been habituated already and their fear of humans is gone; the suggestions to keep your food in your car are good ones. We backpacked in Yosemite back in the 80's with friends and a bear came and stole the food bags we had strung up very high on what appeared to be a tightrope. It even punctured my face wash and toothpaste. It ate our friends' special summer sausage hahaha. We could only stay out 2 nights bc of all the food we lost. Each night, we heard the bear in our campsite. Not fun.
I hope you enjoy yourselves. I'll be in the audience for your prize ceremony!! I don't know where OP is camping but if they have serious bear issues like Yosemite it is not advised to keep food/toiletries in the car as bears will break in. We stayed in the housekeeping tents there a couple of years ago and have reservations for this summer. www.myyosemitepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/bear-proof-food/Yosemite is very strict about food/toiletryttrash storage. If there isn't a person with in arms reach of it you will get a warning or fined or kicked out if it is not in a locked bear box. You are not allowed to string it up. On the other hand, not all places are as strict so YMMV. We are occasional tent campers, 2-3 times a year. And I'm peaing from a tent as I type. That said we always go with a group cuz I don't trust us to know/have/remember to bring everything needed. We always camp with our car just yards a way. I have been backpacking one time (lug everything in a pack, poop in a hole you dug, etc). One time was enough.
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Post by calgaryscrapper on Apr 25, 2021 16:17:21 GMT
I haven’t read through all of the posts but I have a couple of suggestions. Pick up some bear spray. If there is reception for your phone have it fully charged. When we used to stay at a friends cabin we cleaned out large jugs of milk then froze the water in them. If kept the food cold in the cooler fir a couple of days then we drank the water from the milk jugs. You can also freeze bottled water then use it in the cooler. When our children were in Girl Guides/Boy Scouts we bought those pads that when you open the air valve (they might be called Thermorest) they inflate and are comfortable to sleep on. When you are finished with them you roll the air back out. Warm sleeping bags help.
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Post by calgaryscrapper on Apr 25, 2021 17:02:00 GMT
I have now read through the posts. Your toothpaste and toothbrushes should also go in the lockbox. I would also carry a whistle and bells. I camped with Girl Guides at the end of September once and we had frost on our tent. At bed time we put our clothing for the next day inside the bottom of our sleeping bags so they would be warm. Do not leave anything in your car to invite thieves (people break into cars in hiking areas here). Use packing cubes to store clothing etc in your lockbox when hiking. Hats, sunscreen and bug repellant are handy. We like taking a wrap with cheess,ham, cream cheess etc.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 25, 2021 18:06:28 GMT
Some camp sites like those shelters are large enough to fit a tent. You need to do some engineering to figure out how to stake it down (important for when you aren’t IN the tent). But it would need to be your own private shelter. I’ve seen people do this on the Appalachian Trail and shelter joggers aren’t looked kindly upon!) I’ve also seen places where a tarp is hung over the entrance. The benefit is more insect control and shelter from the wind and cold. As for the bear box, the dimensions should be available. That will tell you if the cooler will fit. I’ve seen bears break into cars, but that’s more common in the spring and fall vs mid summer. I would expect the bear box to be large enough to fit at least 2 hiking backpacks, which I would also keep in the bear box if there’s room. That way there’s nothing to forget in your gear. Yes, I have been puzzling over how to make a tent work inside a shelter. I thought of it immediately and then abandoned it because of staking. But seeing it mentioned in an earlier response has me thinking about it again. Yes the shelters are private and reserved for just your family/party. I had initially wondered if it would be possible, but discarded that idea due to staking. Now that I have been tossing it around in my mind, I do think there are some styles of easy set tents that are more dome-like, that you sorta shake into place. We don't have anything like that currently, and I am sure that even our old school style ones are not with us in this state. We may have even sold them. I'll need to get more measurements but I suppose that those curved popup ones could be an easy possibility. Considered the idea of car damage if cooler in car overnight, but was hoping if food in sealed containers + in sealed cooler + in sealed car- it would be ok. I suppose car insurance would cover if they did damage car. I've got to say though that seeing the car trashed in the morning would probably be enough to have us overnighting in a motel. What are shelter joggers? Not familiar with that term so curious. Was it typo for hoggers? When the shelters are meant for community use? LOL. I did mean hoggers! Yes, there are lots of shelters on the AP that are community sites. Chances are good that your car would be fine. But my parents had their trailer broken into a few years back for something weird—spices? Rice? The bear did a number on the place and it was still closed up for the winter. But if there’s room in the bear box, I’d toss everything in there. It will be nearby if you need it. I think the biggest issue would be that you don’t want to buy everything if this is just a one time event. It can get expensive and you don’t really need the latest and greatest. REI is a great resource and most of DH’s equipment comes from there because he backpacks and needs it to be safe, lightweight, and sturdy. Walmart just doesn’t offer that.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 25, 2021 18:09:10 GMT
Why would you even do this?? LOL
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