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Post by Citygirl on Apr 25, 2021 17:57:35 GMT
Lol! I’m at a retreat right now and I think I’m the only person not doing traditional layouts.
People keeping asking me what my Epson PM-400 is.
I’m working on an old WITL album and a few ladies have asked me about it and when I say Ali Edwards they say “who?”
“What’s persnickety prints”?
It’s made me realize that I haven’t been a traditional scrapbooker in ages!
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Post by ecvnj58 on Apr 25, 2021 18:00:33 GMT
I’m also always astonished by how many people are just putting together pages from kits. Like not collection kits but actual put this paper here and sticker here kits. There is nothing wrong with it it but it’s just not how I scrapbook at all.
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 25, 2021 18:09:54 GMT
I’m also always astonished by how many people are just putting together pages from kits. Like not collection kits but actual put this paper here and sticker here kits. There is nothing wrong with it it but it’s just not how I scrapbook at all. Yes they always have classes at this retreat that are just precut kits. I never take them because I learned over a decade ago I never used those pages. The classes are always full tho, so I guess some people do. |
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Post by artsyk on Apr 25, 2021 19:20:03 GMT
I go to a retreat twice a year (except for the past year) and I would say 70% of the women scrapbook creative memories style, which is not how I scrapbook AT ALL. I think some of them think I waste my time with one photo layouts.
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Post by oaksong on Apr 25, 2021 20:19:26 GMT
Yes, I have felt like an alien from the very beginning, when I would go to CM crops and use (gasp!) 12x12 colored paper for a background.
The last few times I went to a Scrapbook Expo crop, I was working on pocket page albums. So many people commented on how unique that was, or they’d never seen it. There are still plenty of traditional 12x12 scrappers out there, stickers and all!
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Post by scrappyem on Apr 25, 2021 20:31:45 GMT
The last in person class I attended at a scrapbooking class was exactly like this. It was a painting class with Dana Weekly but I was also buying some supplies for December Daily. The ladies asked me what I was buying for and none of them had heard of DD or AE or PL. It blew my mind. Even the gal working the counter had no idea. I was also the youngest person there by a good 12-15 years and I was 39 or 40 at the time. They weren't exactly welcoming either and I felt judged for being a different scrapper and for scrapping at all since I didn't have kids. It certainly made me uninterested in taking more classes as I didn't fit in (which is fine, to each their own). I was so surprised since all I see are other online, non-traditional scrappers. I hadn't realize there were still so many traditionalist folks out there.
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Post by marg on Apr 25, 2021 20:34:46 GMT
I'm so jealous that you're on a retreat!
The only other person I know who scrapbooks still does Creative Memories - she has tons of old inventory from when she was a demo. I'm happy she scrapbooks, at least, but she's cut way back and we never get together anymore. I always enjoyed filling her in on non-CM scrapbooking items, she had a ton of questions.
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Post by marg on Apr 25, 2021 20:36:47 GMT
The last in person class I attended at a scrapbooking class was exactly like this. It was a painting class with Dana Weekly but I was also buying some supplies for December Daily. The ladies asked me what I was buying for and none of them had heard of DD or AE or PL. It blew my mind. Even the gal working the counter had no idea. I was also the youngest person there by a good 12-15 years and I was 39 or 40 at the time. They weren't exactly welcoming either and I felt judged for being a different scrapper and for scrapping at all since I didn't have kids. It certainly made me uninterested in taking more classes as I didn't fit in (which is fine, to each their own). I was so surprised since all I see are other online, non-traditional scrappers. I hadn't realize there were still so many traditionalist folks out there. You're making me wonder who buys Ali E's stuff and how they found her. Are all of her customers old 2 Peas followers? Do people come across her organically and start scrapbooking? I'd love to know how many customers she has. Interesting |
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Post by joblackford on Apr 25, 2021 21:06:25 GMT
The last in person class I attended at a scrapbooking class was exactly like this. It was a painting class with Dana Weekly but I was also buying some supplies for December Daily. The ladies asked me what I was buying for and none of them had heard of DD or AE or PL. It blew my mind. Even the gal working the counter had no idea. I was also the youngest person there by a good 12-15 years and I was 39 or 40 at the time. They weren't exactly welcoming either and I felt judged for being a different scrapper and for scrapping at all since I didn't have kids. It certainly made me uninterested in taking more classes as I didn't fit in (which is fine, to each their own). I was so surprised since all I see are other online, non-traditional scrappers. I hadn't realize there were still so many traditionalist folks out there. You're making me wonder who buys Ali E's stuff and how they found her. Are all of her customers old 2 Peas followers? Do people come across her organically and start scrapbooking? I'd love to know how many customers she has. Interesting Lots of old Studio Calico folks? |
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Post by joblackford on Apr 25, 2021 21:14:40 GMT
See, when people talk about why companies aren't making the products that "we scrapbookers" want, I think we are missing the point that we're just a little subculture of scrapbooking.
I went into a LSS when Starshine came out and the person working there (the owner?) had never heard of Shimelle and she looked at me blankly when I said she was an American Crafts designer. They know about Graphic45 and Tim Holtz - I'm not sure if the AC thing was snobbery or what because don't AC own half of scrapbooking? But I'm 100% sure they wouldn't have known Studio Calico, Ali Edwards, and certainly not Kelly Purkey, etc.
When we complain about too much pink, too many gendered lines, dumb icons, and the companies come back and say, but that's what scrapbookers buy, I think they're talking about that great mass of people who craft and scrapbook who we are just a tiny offshoot from.
Hope you're having fun despite feeling a bit out of place.
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 25, 2021 21:53:08 GMT
Yes I still had fun. I always do. I’m not big on socializing at these. I just want the uninterrupted time. This retreat is celebrating their 20th year this year. I used to go to a lot more retreats, including this one, 10 years ago. It was like this back then. Just interesting that not much has changed. And ya we must be in a bubble more so than I realize.
I wonder how much of it has to do with age and social media usage. Facebook vs IG users.
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Post by Elsabelle on Apr 25, 2021 22:08:31 GMT
Yes, a little bit. I have a friend who scrapbooks. I got her a gc to scrapbook.com to cheer her up when she was having a rough time and she never used it. She just didn’t understand what to do with all the options. She said she gets her stuff at Michael’s. I guess I should have gotten her a gc to Michael’s.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 25, 2021 22:50:24 GMT
I feel like an alien for different reasons. I go to crops to actually get pages done. I also scrap 8.5x11 and there are a few people who act like I am doing a mini album. Believe me, my 8.5x11 pages have as much going on them as many 12x12 pages, including smaller photos so I get as many on a page as a larger format.
I also get everything in from my car in one trip. I don't use a wagon or drag in a cutting machine. I don't have totes and rolling carts and bags all around the floor. People remark every time about the fact I can pack up in about 5 minutes.
I agree about kits - so many kits, so many mosaics with templates and so much formula scrapping. I've been cropping a lot with Creative Memories users and they do everything from formula sheets telling them exactly what to put where, how to cut, what paper to use.
Now let me say this. Scrapbooking for me is a fabulous hobby, and anyone who likes it has my support to scrap their own memories and craft however they want that makes them happy. But with no magazines, a complete change in product offerings by CM, no stores or classes anymore really, it does not surprise me that no one knows the big names that used to be synonymous with modern scrapbooking. They are part of scrapbooking's heyday and really no longer relevant to many of those left in the hobby.
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 25, 2021 23:57:08 GMT
myboysnme. 8.5x11 is a great size. That’s actually the size I did before I fully switched to pocket pages. You definitely have your packing down to a science! I have paired my crop supplies WAY way back from when I first started going but I still bring to much. I only do one carload but I just bought one of those wagons lol. Best purchase I’ve made in awhile. And totally agreed.....whatever method makes people happy and gets them memory keeping is great. It has been interesting to think about and see how my own memory keeping has changed over the years.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 26, 2021 2:38:43 GMT
I go to a retreat twice a year (except for the past year) and I would say 70% of the women scrapbook creative memories style, which is not how I scrapbook AT ALL. I think some of them think I waste my time with one photo layouts. I am not a one photo layout person 99% of the time. But it does drive me crazy when people comment negatively on layouts "that only use one picture." WHO CARES? Some people enjoy the photos and some people enjoy really highlighting a photo. For some it is all about the mixed media and art, some about the photo, and some about telling the story. Sometimes people on FB will do a very simple layout and say if they add anything more it takes away from the photo. Ugh. Just post what you do and let people see your layout. It also drives me crazy when people sell/use one type of scrapbook product and can only use those products. I personally enjoy seeing it all and love going to crops where everyone does their own thing (and no one has to judge anyone else). One of the crops I go to has upwards of 150 people and everyone is so different. I spend time just walking the aisles to see the different creations. |
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 26, 2021 2:45:53 GMT
I’ve been scrapping with a core group of friends for about 18 years. We are a mix of all styles. CM, 12x12 traditional, project life, digital, etc.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 26, 2021 2:47:12 GMT
See, when people talk about why companies aren't making the products that "we scrapbookers" want, I think we are missing the point that we're just a little subculture of scrapbooking. I went into a LSS when Starshine came out and the person working there (the owner?) had never heard of Shimelle and she looked at me blankly when I said she was an American Crafts designer. They know about Graphic45 and Tim Holtz - I'm not sure if the AC thing was snobbery or what because don't AC own half of scrapbooking? But I'm 100% sure they wouldn't have known Studio Calico, Ali Edwards, and certainly not Kelly Purkey, etc. When we complain about too much pink, too many gendered lines, dumb icons, and the companies come back and say, but that's what scrapbookers buy, I think they're talking about that great mass of people who craft and scrapbook who we are just a tiny offshoot from. Hope you're having fun despite feeling a bit out of place. My LSS owner has a lot of knowledge on so many companies. She's been in business almost 25 years, I believe. She doesn't sell a lot of AC because it is sold in the big box stores for less money than online. I love her store. I always complain of too much pink and too many flowers, but I know that it sells, so I just appreciate when a company like Echo Park comes up with lines that don't have them. I don't mind gendered lines because I want some phrases that are about boys. With all of the pink and flowers out there, we need something for the boys in our lives. |
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Post by cbscrapper on Apr 26, 2021 3:29:08 GMT
The last in person class I attended at a scrapbooking class was exactly like this. It was a painting class with Dana Weekly but I was also buying some supplies for December Daily. The ladies asked me what I was buying for and none of them had heard of DD or AE or PL. It blew my mind. Even the gal working the counter had no idea. I was also the youngest person there by a good 12-15 years and I was 39 or 40 at the time. They weren't exactly welcoming either and I felt judged for being a different scrapper and for scrapping at all since I didn't have kids. It certainly made me uninterested in taking more classes as I didn't fit in (which is fine, to each their own). I was so surprised since all I see are other online, non-traditional scrappers. I hadn't realize there were still so many traditionalist folks out there. You're making me wonder who buys Ali E's stuff and how they found her. Are all of her customers old 2 Peas followers? Do people come across her organically and start scrapbooking? I'd love to know how many customers she has. Interesting People who subscribed to Creating Keepsakes magazine. That’s where Ali was catapulted to scrappy fame. People followed her blog after reading her articles and books from CK. And maybe some when she had stamps with Technique Tuesday and Digitals at Designer Digitals. Then she started DD and other projects and classes. I’d be interested in how people new to scrapbooking find her now (or even how they got into scrapbooking now). |
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Post by cbscrapper on Apr 26, 2021 3:29:53 GMT
You're making me wonder who buys Ali E's stuff and how they found her. Are all of her customers old 2 Peas followers? Do people come across her organically and start scrapbooking? I'd love to know how many customers she has. Interesting Lots of old Studio Calico folks? I think I found Studio Calico because of Ali! Ha! |
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Post by cbscrapper on Apr 26, 2021 3:35:12 GMT
Yes I still had fun. I always do. I’m not big on socializing at these. I just want the uninterrupted time. This retreat is celebrating their 20th year this year. I used to go to a lot more retreats, including this one, 10 years ago. It was like this back then. Just interesting that not much has changed. And ya we must be in a bubble more so than I realize. I wonder how much of it has to do with age and social media usage. Facebook vs IG users. I think there was this subset even before FB and IG - it’s the people who flocked to message boards (like the OG 2peas and the CK message board). We’re all in. We subbed to the magazines, stalked the LSS for the new collections we knew were coming because we watched trends and stayed on top of the industry. I don’t think that’s changed, just the way we do it. I’m glad you had fun. It does always amaze me that people who like the hobby enough to go to retreats aren’t in it enough to know all the ins and outs. To me, that’s part of the fun! |
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Post by cbscrapper on Apr 26, 2021 3:39:36 GMT
See, when people talk about why companies aren't making the products that "we scrapbookers" want, I think we are missing the point that we're just a little subculture of scrapbooking. I went into a LSS when Starshine came out and the person working there (the owner?) had never heard of Shimelle and she looked at me blankly when I said she was an American Crafts designer. They know about Graphic45 and Tim Holtz - I'm not sure if the AC thing was snobbery or what because don't AC own half of scrapbooking? But I'm 100% sure they wouldn't have known Studio Calico, Ali Edwards, and certainly not Kelly Purkey, etc. When we complain about too much pink, too many gendered lines, dumb icons, and the companies come back and say, but that's what scrapbookers buy, I think they're talking about that great mass of people who craft and scrapbook who we are just a tiny offshoot from. Hope you're having fun despite feeling a bit out of place. My LSS owner has a lot of knowledge on so many companies. She's been in business almost 25 years, I believe. She doesn't sell a lot of AC because it is sold in the big box stores for less money than online. I love her store. I always complain of too much pink and too many flowers, but I know that it sells, so I just appreciate when a company like Echo Park comes up with lines that don't have them. I don't mind gendered lines because I want some phrases that are about boys. With all of the pink and flowers out there, we need something for the boys in our lives. Yes! I agree with all of this, especially needing something for our boys (and non-pink/floral things for me too). |
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 26, 2021 3:59:10 GMT
I go to a retreat twice a year (except for the past year) and I would say 70% of the women scrapbook creative memories style, which is not how I scrapbook AT ALL. I think some of them think I waste my time with one photo layouts. I am not a one photo layout person 99% of the time. But it does drive me crazy when people comment negatively on layouts "that only use one picture." WHO CARES? Really? That would drive me crazy too. What do those people do with all of their single photos - just not scrap them? Or do they just whack a whole lot of random mis-matched and unrelated photos onto a double page spread? They should pop on over to a digital scrapbooking site, where there are a huge number of single page layouts with only one photo. |
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Apr 26, 2021 4:52:56 GMT
Lol! I’m at a retreat right now and I think I’m the only person not doing traditional layouts. I have a friend who normally works on needlework projects at our retreats.  |
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Post by lynn0117 on Apr 26, 2021 5:07:01 GMT
The last in person class I attended at a scrapbooking class was exactly like this. It was a painting class with Dana Weekly but I was also buying some supplies for December Daily. The ladies asked me what I was buying for and none of them had heard of DD or AE or PL. It blew my mind. Even the gal working the counter had no idea. I was also the youngest person there by a good 12-15 years and I was 39 or 40 at the time. They weren't exactly welcoming either and I felt judged for being a different scrapper and for scrapping at all since I didn't have kids. It certainly made me uninterested in taking more classes as I didn't fit in (which is fine, to each their own). I was so surprised since all I see are other online, non-traditional scrappers. I hadn't realize there were still so many traditionalist folks out there. You're making me wonder who buys Ali E's stuff and how they found her. Are all of her customers old 2 Peas followers? Do people come across her organically and start scrapbooking? I'd love to know how many customers she has. Interesting I found Ali from Becky. I started seeing Project Life stuff in 2013 and in 2014 I started pocket page scrapbooking. I discovered Ali and Studio Calico from Project Life and Becky Higgins. |
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Post by sueg on Apr 26, 2021 5:24:53 GMT
It does always amaze me that people who like the hobby enough to go to retreats aren’t in it enough to know all the ins and outs. To me, that’s part of the fun! Some people go to retreats just for an uninterrupted weekend of scrapbooking, without all the family stress. |
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 26, 2021 12:34:48 GMT
Lol! I’m at a retreat right now and I think I’m the only person not doing traditional layouts. I have a friend who normally works on needlework projects at our retreats. Oh yes there was one person who was a card maker. I used to frequent one that changed their brand from scrapbooking retreat to craft retreat to be more inclusive of all types of crafting. |
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 26, 2021 12:35:48 GMT
I go to a retreat twice a year (except for the past year) and I would say 70% of the women scrapbook creative memories style, which is not how I scrapbook AT ALL. I think some of them think I waste my time with one photo layouts. My annual retreat is like that. Several of the ladies are former CM consultants. One of my friends still cuts her photos into shapes. I can't stand it, but it's her deal and makes her happy. |
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 26, 2021 12:39:35 GMT
It does always amaze me that people who like the hobby enough to go to retreats aren’t in it enough to know all the ins and outs. To me, that’s part of the fun! Some people go to retreats just for an uninterrupted weekend of scrapbooking, without all the family stress. This is why go. I used to go a lot with a friend. Eventually she quit scrapbooking and I got my own craft room at home so I didn’t see the need. Now I have a toddler at home and can’t get anything done. It’s like a momcation 🙂 2.5 days to myself....it’s a dream. Thankfully my husband doesn’t have to call 27 times over the weekend 😂 |
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 26, 2021 13:02:57 GMT
Yes I still had fun. I always do. I’m not big on socializing at these. I just want the uninterrupted time. This retreat is celebrating their 20th year this year. I used to go to a lot more retreats, including this one, 10 years ago. It was like this back then. Just interesting that not much has changed. And ya we must be in a bubble more so than I realize. I wonder how much of it has to do with age and social media usage. Facebook vs IG users. I think there was this subset even before FB and IG - it’s the people who flocked to message boards (like the OG 2peas and the CK message board). We’re all in. We subbed to the magazines, stalked the LSS for the new collections we knew were coming because we watched trends and stayed on top of the industry. I don’t think that’s changed, just the way we do it. I’m glad you had fun. It does always amaze me that people who like the hobby enough to go to retreats aren’t in it enough to know all the ins and outs. To me, that’s part of the fun! I think you are right. I sometimes laugh at how much time I spend thinking about or looking at scrapbook stuff online. Obsessed is probably the word. I just assume everyone is like this. My implicit bias toward scrapbookers lol. I honestly can’t remember how I discovered AE. I was never a CK or BH fan at all. Simple Scrapbooks was my jam. That was how I discovered pocket page scrapbooking, long before I had heard of project life. Stacy Julian had a special magazine issue called Quick and easy photo books. |
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Post by riversong1963 on Apr 26, 2021 13:25:26 GMT
I can relate. I think that scrapbookers who are active online live in a different world in many respects. It's as if time has stood still for those who aren't online, and they are still scrapbooking in the same style as they were 20 years ago. Whatever floats your boat, but yeah, I do feel like an alien sometimes. Geez, I haven't been to a crop in over a year. I still have a crop credit at my "L" SS, but I bring small projects to work on. I bring one rolling tote, and that's it. Sometimes not even that much. I sometimes work on cards instead. Maybe next time I'll work on jewelry or Diamond Dots.  |
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