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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 28, 2021 22:14:58 GMT
And then they put her in a cell for SIX hours still handcuffed without any medical attention. Then they took her to jail!
May they rot in hell.
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Post by Jennifer C on Apr 28, 2021 22:24:10 GMT
bc2ca, hop2, crazy4scrapsI've just tagged these because so far they have responded to me. Again, please excuse my ignorance about dealing with dementia. My Dad was diagnosed very pre dementia and we haven't gotten to a stage that I need to adjust my life, other than move him in with us. I am so sorry that you guys lives have been touched by dementia. I know that my family is headed down a bumpy road and I haven't experienced ANYthing now. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. I am horrified by the brutality and utter disregard for their brutality these police officers showed. Something definitely needs to be done in the US. Jennifer
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Post by katybee on Apr 28, 2021 22:35:02 GMT
I read a newspaper recount of the video and they described the female as saying "I hate this" and I was proud. I was like "that's right!" Then you watch the video - and she's laughingly saying it. Broke my heart. How could anyone make light of this? How could anyone charged with "serving and protecting" think this was amusing? I know there are good police officers out there - I know them personally. But these people need to be weeded out, sent to jail and never allowed to work with people again. This isn't "gallows humor" that people have when they've been at their jobs a long time. I know medical doctors, psychologists, lawyers etc... who use inappropriate humor to cope. This is cruelty - wanton cruelty and sadism. I'm so disgusted. I am not defending her in anyway. She is NOT a hero. But she could have been. I think she KNEW it was wrong. She couldn’t watch it. But she got pulled in by the culture of that department. She had to laugh...she had to act tough. That’s the culture. And if she tried to say anything, God knows what all those testosterone-fueled men in the department would have done—bullied, harassed and gaslighted her (you can hear the other cop gaslight her throughout that video). If she can’t even stand up to the men in her own department, she has no business being a cop. But that is NOT an excuse. That poor woman was brutalized and left in her cell with a dislocated shoulder. And they KNEW it. The male cop kept repeating... “Did you hear the pop?” like he was proud of it. Our criminal justice system is so broken.  |
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Post by hop2 on Apr 28, 2021 22:35:17 GMT
bc2ca, hop2, crazy4scrapsI've just tagged these because so far they have responded to me. Again, please excuse my ignorance about dealing with dementia. My Dad was diagnosed very pre dementia and we haven't gotten to a stage that I need to adjust my life, other than move him in with us. I am so sorry that you guys lives have been touched by dementia. I know that my family is headed down a bumpy road and I haven't experienced ANYthing now. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. I am horrified by the brutality and utter disregard for their brutality these police officers showed. Something definitely needs to be done in the US. Jennifer No offense. Until your there you can’t really imagine. So keep asking questions so you can try be prepared before stuff happens. These are things we did that helped 1 installed private security cameras so we could all take turns watching my mom. 2 locked medication dispenser so she wouldn’t take extra meds. Kinda like a locked dispensing fish feeder if you’ve ever seen one of those. 3 installed a ‘bell’ on ALL doors out from her apartment. 4 hire a home health aide when no one could be there. 5 locked up cleaners & detergents. ( yup like a toddler but not like a toddler ) 6 the state refused to take away my moms license despite both the diagnosed dementia and cateracts that she refused surgery for so my sister pre-emptively visited the police department and discussed what ways we could legally keep her from driving. Which also gave them a heads up about her conditions. 7 an id bracelet with her dementia & celiacs mentioned & my sisters cel phone number I’ve seen dog tag like chains too. |
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Post by hop2 on Apr 28, 2021 22:37:54 GMT
I read a newspaper recount of the video and they described the female as saying "I hate this" and I was proud. I was like "that's right!" Then you watch the video - and she's laughingly saying it. Broke my heart. How could anyone make light of this? How could anyone charged with "serving and protecting" think this was amusing? I know there are good police officers out there - I know them personally. But these people need to be weeded out, sent to jail and never allowed to work with people again. This isn't "gallows humor" that people have when they've been at their jobs a long time. I know medical doctors, psychologists, lawyers etc... who use inappropriate humor to cope. This is cruelty - wanton cruelty and sadism. I'm so disgusted. I am not defending her in anyway. She is NOT a hero. But she could have been. I think she KNEW it was wrong. She couldn’t watch it. But she got pulled in by the culture of that department. She had to laugh...she had to act tough. That’s the culture. And if she tried to say anything, God knows what all those testosterone-fueled men in the department would have done—bullied, harassed and gaslighted her (you can hear the other cop gaslight her throughout that video). If she can’t even stand up to the men in her own department, she has no business being a cop. But that is NOT an excuse. That poor woman was brutalized and left in her cell with a dislocated shoulder. And they KNEW it. The male cop kept repeating... “Did you hear the pop?” like he was proud of it. Our criminal justice system is so broken. Because THIS is their culture www.cbsnews.com/video/buffalo-police-officer-vindicated-after-2008-termination/That is what happens when you step in, you are punished. That culture needs to end |
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 28, 2021 22:47:58 GMT
Again, please excuse my ignorance about dealing with dementia. My Dad was diagnosed very pre dementia and we haven't gotten to a stage that I need to adjust my life, other than move him in with us. I wasn't offended by your question. Having lived through it with my mom, it is hard to know when it is time to put limits on what the person can do and how safe it is for them to be on their own. My dad hid and/or was in denial with a lot of mom's behaviors. He insisted she just got a little confused at the end of the day. They used to stay with us for 3 weeks at a time before she was officially diagnosed and things she would say to me in the morning made us realize she was at the point where we had to assume she was confused more of the time than not. On that trip dad had assumed she was okay to pack her own bag. Well, she brought about 20 pairs of socks and one change of underpants.  It was a progression of losing her license (because my sis reported her to the DMV), then losing her credit/debit cards (because of buying the airline ticket), to having to put locks on the doors so she couldn't leave when dad was in the bathroom, making meals, sleeping, etc. I'm sorry you are on this road.  |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 29, 2021 0:09:42 GMT
bc2ca , hop2 , crazy4scraps I've just tagged these because so far they have responded to me. Again, please excuse my ignorance about dealing with dementia. My Dad was diagnosed very pre dementia and we haven't gotten to a stage that I need to adjust my life, other than move him in with us. I am so sorry that you guys lives have been touched by dementia. I know that my family is headed down a bumpy road and I haven't experienced ANYthing now. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. I am horrified by the brutality and utter disregard for their brutality these police officers showed. Something definitely needs to be done in the US. Jennifer I wasn’t offended at all by your post because most people really don’t know until they have either gone through it with a loved one or have had some training on it. My point was that one would think law enforcement officers and others whose job is to deal with the general public SHOULD have some level of training to be able to recognize when a person they are encountering who seems confused likely has dementia. To me it was painfully obvious when that poor little lady started saying over and over that she just wanted to go home. And then the assholes effing broke her arm.  What the hell. IMO Even the store security staff and management should also have some education on how to recognize signs of dementia, especially since people are living longer and these issues have been becoming more prevalent in recent years. The whole issue really should have been handled at the store level when the lady gave the stuff back and offered to pay for it. But no, the store staff escalated it by calling in the police. She is a little old lady for Pete’s sake! It’s not like she posed any kind of real threat to anybody. |
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Post by gorgeouskid on Apr 29, 2021 5:30:30 GMT
Karen was picking the wildflowers on her way home from Walmart. She is still holding them while getting handcuffed. No matter what she did-- even if dementia was NOT an issue-- no one that age deserves to be treated in that manner. The fucking wildflowers killed me. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 1, 2021 0:52:38 GMT
Shame on the chief and the city!! They should have been fired. They are still get their benefits... Three Loveland police officers involved in violent arrest of elderly woman with dementia resignBy Carma Hassan and Ray Sanchez, CNN Updated 7:39 PM ET, Fri April 30, 2021 (CNN)Three Colorado officers who laughed at body camera footage of the violent arrest of a 73-year-old woman with dementia are "no longer employed" by the department, Loveland Police Chief Robert Ticer said Friday. Karen Garner was arrested in June for walking out of a Walmart with $13.88 worth of items, according to a federal lawsuit filed earlier this month. She was arrested and left with multiple injuries, including a broken humerus, a dislocated shoulder and a sprained wrist, according to the lawsuit. The arresting officer, Austin Hopp, had been placed on administrative leave. Another officer involved in the arrest, Daria Jalali, had also been placed on administrative leave -- as were community service officer Tyler Blackett and Philip Metzler, who supervised Hopp and Jalali at the time of the arrest. The lawsuit includes video showing Hopp, Jalali and Blackett laughing as they watched the body camera footage of Garner's arrest. Ticer said Friday that Hopp, Jalali and Blackett are "no longer employed" by the police department. Though the chief would not say whether the officers had stepped down, police spokesman Tom Hacker told CNN the three officers resigned. "I share the community's concerns on this," Ticer said when asked for his reaction to the bodycam footage. "It hurt to see that. I've been in law enforcement 32 years and what I saw in there hurt me personally." www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/us/loveland-police-officers-karen-garner-use-of-force/index.htmlbc2ca |
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