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Post by alexa11 on May 10, 2021 12:00:13 GMT
It's that time unfortunately for my mom to have more help than I can provide. Do you have any suggestions of things that I need to do other than the usual checklist? I have everything lined up. I was just wondering of there was anything that was of help to you and your loved one that no one usually tells you.
She's 89 with dementia and will probably be in a wheelchair. Right now she can't get out of bed or walk so I have to get her some help.
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Post by Basket1lady on May 10, 2021 12:17:26 GMT
I'm so sorry. It's hard to make this decision.
We moved my inlaws into care last August, knowing that memory care was only a matter of time. MIL was in assisted living less than a week and it was apparent that her care was just too much for him. So MIL is in another wing and FIL can visit her when he wants. She keeps asking when she will go home and we just tell her soon. She can't remember in 5 minutes anyway.
Some things to think about: -Are visitors allowed with Covid? I think most allow visits now, but it may only be with the primary caregiver or with an appointment. -Memory care patients find comfort with familiar things around them, but realize that those things may get lost or stolen. So chose what you send with her. -If your father is still alive and in the picture, separate their finances now. If she is able, have her sign any documents that need to be done for you to manage the money and/house/assets. We were able to get a notary to come out to the car for MIL. She needs to be having a good day and able to make decisions or the document is legally null. If this isn't possible, you may need to have her declared incompetent. -You may need to have her declared incompetent anyway if you need to do any care against her will. MIL is still ambulatory and is legally allowed to leave the facility, so we are in the process of that now. -A white board in the room with caregivers names and a message like, "You are at xxx. You are safe. You are cared for." may help.
It's an insane amount of paperwork. We had to split all the assets, sell the house, get MIL removed as a trustee from their trust, enact her long-term care policy, dissolve her life insurance, and get DH's and SIL's names on all of the bank accounts. PLUS all the paperwork for the facility and for the state if they are going to help pay for it. It probably took 8 months to get to the point where we are now.
I wish you the best.
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Post by volunteergirl on May 10, 2021 12:19:39 GMT
Take nothing valuable. Understand going into this that stuff will disappear, end up with other residents, and flat out get stolen.
Don’t spend a lot on cute, quality clothes. The laundry will ruin them, they will be worn by other residents, or your mom will stain them.
YMMV on this one: everyone enjoys something different. My grandma was not a picture lover. All the advice to make her posters of loved ones and photo albums of loved ones would have been a waste. She didn’t ever think a doll or stuffed animal was her baby or her pet, so getting a doll and all the gear so she could “take care of her baby” would have been a waste. She liked to zoom around the facility in her wheelchair, paddling with her feet, so sturdy slippers and shoes were what we made sure she had.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 13:44:00 GMT
Such a hard decision to make , nearly had to do this for my Dad, but he passed before.
We were advised to make a memory album .
just a thought , is there a favourite perfume, or talc, or lavender oil that could be familiar or comforting ?
or favourite sweets or chocolate.
I don’t really know if it would help or not but might be worth a try.
sending hugs for you both
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Post by piebaker on May 10, 2021 14:16:27 GMT
I'm thinking of your mom and you as she transitions to assisted living/memory care.
We bought a small TV and my mom watched that. Also, an inexpensive, handheld radio with earplugs so she could listen to the news and weather.
She also asked for a Bible and a rosary.
My husband's aunt wanted to have afghans she had crocheted(we tagged with her name for laundry purposes) plus she needed sweaters/light jacket as she was always cold.
None of these items were taken but they weren't irreplacable.
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Post by librarylady on May 10, 2021 14:25:33 GMT
Precovid response:
As mentioned: Her clothing will be seen on other patients. Her personal things will walk away.
We purchased a small TV--about 12" screen and wrote her name on the side (It was in a white case) That did stay in her room.
I have 5 sisters living near the facility. Someone from the family visited every day. We took her laundry home, but still her "patio dress/mumu" showed up on other residents.
Mom would say that no one visited nor did she get food that day. (We did have an incident on the New Year weekend. I lived out of town and arrived around 1 PM. I stayed in mom's room from 1 PM until 9 at night. She was never brought and evening meal. I complained and at first the employee wanted to argue. I told her what I knew and that furthermore, I had not heard food delivered on that wing that evening to any patient. I did get Mom a sandwich, but it made me very distrustful of that facility.)
I hate to say it, but if there is any rotation you can do with family and have someone check on what is going on every day, I would advise it.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 10, 2021 16:15:53 GMT
I’m sorry you’re having to make this choice. Even though it is the right decision it’s still difficult.
Others have said her items may walk away or be stolen, which is an awful thought but in my mom’s case it wasn’t intentional or nefarious. She would give items to other residents, or throw them away. Occasionally other patients (who also have memory issues) would take items thinking it was theirs. We wrote her name on some of the items and the caregivers would often find and return them.
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Post by lbp on May 10, 2021 16:21:12 GMT
Call in hospice sooner than later. They are a HUGE help with assessing needs, bathing, general welfare.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on May 10, 2021 16:32:05 GMT
I’m sorry you’re having to make this choice. Even though it is the right decision it’s still difficult. Others have said her items may walk away or be stolen, which is an awful thought but in my mom’s case it wasn’t intentional or nefarious. She would give items to other residents, or throw them away. Occasionally other patients (who also have memory issues) would take items thinking it was theirs. We wrote her name on some of the items and the caregivers would often find and return them. This is true! It is a hard decision to make but when they need that level of care, it's necessary. I agree with the above. I wanted to put my mother's diamond wedding rings up, but she insisted that she wanted them. I finally decided that they were hers and if they got stolen it was her choice. They ended up being fine and after she passed I got them and put them in the safe. I'm glad I made the decision to let her continue enjoying them until she passed away. YMMV - I can't promise the same would be true everywhere. My mother loved chocolate - specifically Hershey's kisses. I kept a covered container in her top drawer and refilled it frequently. After a while, she couldn't remember she had them, even if they were out on the bedside table, but the nursing assistants and other employees did and they would frequently visit her and get a treat. I decided it was a small price to pay for her to have increased visits from the staff. Hope the move goes well for her and you!
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Post by littlemama on May 10, 2021 17:11:06 GMT
Have her assessed by Hospice right away. They will be able to give you valuable information.
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Post by peaname on May 10, 2021 17:17:33 GMT
It really helps the staff if you can put a few of her likes and dislikes on an index card. Include the names of loved ones. I work in a nursing home and it’s so helpful to know I can tell Mrs Jones that Debbie knows you are here she will be in to visit later would you like some cookies and milk while you wait? For example.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 10, 2021 17:23:32 GMT
Take nothing valuable. Understand going into this that stuff will disappear, end up with other residents, and flat out get stolen. This! Someone stole my mom's beautiful diamond ring right off her finger and it was heartbreaking. When my mom would look in a mirror and and see her reflection, she thought it was someone else. She thought someone was stalking her so we put family pictures all over the mirror to cover it up.
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Post by gramasue on May 10, 2021 17:28:53 GMT
If your Mom is still able to understand questions and talk to you, ask her things about your/her family that, probably, only she knows. My Mom loved to tell stories about the past, and I learned things from her about other members of the family that I would never have heard from anyone else. Even now, more than 20 years after she passed away, I still think of things I wish I had asked her. Just little things, but still important to me and my children and grandchildren.
Family history is so valuable to the generations that come after.
Wishing you all the best as you progress into this next step in your Mom's care.
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Post by monklady123 on May 10, 2021 17:34:49 GMT
I know you said "memory care" and now you're seeing a few people mention hospice, and maybe you're thinking "no! not yet!". But... please think about it. Hospice isn't what it used to be, where you could only go on if you had a certain number of weeks left to live. Now they come in if it looks like the person is simply declining. My dad was on hospice for at least a year before he died. We just put my mom who lives in assisted living on hospice. They'll provide things like wheelchairs, walkers, etc., and other needs. And it's more eyes on your family member. My sister and I go together at least once a week to see my mom, and I stop in at irregular times the other days (the "irregular times" is important so that the staff has no idea when you might show up), and then the hospice social worker and chaplain visit once a week, the nurse twice a week, and a few other types... an occupational therapist I think is one.
As for moving your mom into a facility... My mom had been living in her same residence in Pittsburgh for years and years and YEARS and in all that time she never changed the way things were set up. She had her chair and ottoman, and her side table next to it with everything arranged on the table in the same way it had always been. The pen holder was ancient and it sat in exactly the same place it always did. etc. Same with her nightstand, and with the small table where she kept some of her favorite shells, a few elephant figurines, and photos. So before we moved her to Virginia I took photos of those tables, then we packed everything from each table into its own box. When we arrived in Virginia we could easily unpack and put it all on the table just as it had always been. And we brought her chair and ottoman even though they were old. We brought her same throw pillow from the chair, the same blanket for the bed, etc. We duplicated everything so that I'm sure the woman who helped her in Pittsburgh would be able to come here and go directly to the scissors or the nail file or eraser. lol
Good luck. It's not easy! After clearing out my parents place in Pittsburgh and moving my mom here (against her will which is why we waited till it was almost too late), I swore to my own kids that my dh and I WILL be living in a senior community long before we need too much help. I will NOT put ds and dd through all that.
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Post by danalz on May 10, 2021 17:52:53 GMT
Call in hospice sooner than later. They are a HUGE help with assessing needs, bathing, general welfare. Don't be discouraged if Hospice says that she doesn't qualify right now. it's good to get them out to do a baseline assessment. Then, when she declines further, you can call them for another assessment. they may say no a few times but they will have information gathered to document the decline and she will qualify eventually. I am a care manager for the elderly and we have had a few people need several assessments before enrolling in hospice.
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Post by chichi on May 10, 2021 17:53:17 GMT
Get a very simple TV remote and pair that w her TV Put her name on it as well. Put her name on everything clothes bedding toiletries etc Does she have a MOST form/ updated treatments/ DNR Have you enacted the Durable Power of attorney on her behalf Are you a joint on her checking/ bank accounts? Have you updated beneficiaries on life insurance , transfer on death( TOD) on her investment accounts, savings accounts Dies she have long term care insurance? Activate those benefits ASAP. Read the fine print . I had 30 days from the start of the telephone conversation to turn in necessary documents needed to enact the claim. If you don’t get everything in before the 30 days, you have to start the process all over again Change her mailing address to yours. Mail gets lost at nursing homes/ assisted livings/ memory care I used 3M hooks to hang things ( non breakable) on walls so as not to put nail holes in the walls
Have a to go bag for yourself that has important paperwork, insurance info, MOST/ DNR forms medical diagnoses,allergies,medications your parents healthcare power of attorney couple bottles of water, light snacks for yourself. I’d get phone calls day and night when my dad fell and I just kept that bag ready to go at all times
It can certainly be overwhelming. I was the only contact person for my dad. He fell a lot. So many midnight trips to ER
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Post by shamrock on May 10, 2021 21:26:16 GMT
Label everything with her name and room number. Use a permanent market or engrave it. Labels get removed. Make copies of any special photos that she’ll want displayed.
Don’t be surprised if you notice a decline when she moves. We didn’t think my grandmother was having bad memory problems. Just thought she was forgetting a few things. Within a week we realized how easy it was for her to cover it in a familiar (to her) environment.
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Post by calgaryscrapper on May 10, 2021 22:01:15 GMT
It might help to have a guestbook and pen in the room so visitors can sign. You can work it into conversation such as I see Aunt Mabel visited. I wonder if one of those weighted blankets would help. A friend had a husband in a nursing home. He had dementia and liked to gather fruit and store it in his room and some went moldy. It was a battle to clean out the fruit. I suggested that she just take a bag along and when he was distracted to then remove the older fruit. It worked for her.
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Post by bc2ca on May 10, 2021 22:02:43 GMT
Others have said her items may walk away or be stolen, which is an awful thought but in my mom’s case it wasn’t intentional or nefarious. She would give items to other residents, or throw them away. Occasionally other patients (who also have memory issues) would take items thinking it was theirs. We wrote her name on some of the items and the caregivers would often find and return them.  to the bolded. Mom was wearing a man's watch at some point. Coats and shoes can end up on the wrong resident. It was decided there was no point in replacing her glasses the second time they went missing. Even before going into memory care, mom was in the habit of wrapping her jewelry in tissues and hiding the packages around the house. Dad knew to unwrap a tissue wad, but I'm not sure anyone else would, and assume some things were accidentally tossed. My mom was beyond figuring out a TV remote, radio dial or reading anything by the time she entered care. The only thing I would add is to have easy on and off clothes for your mom. No buttons, zippers or clasps. When mom started stuffing her bra in her pocket instead of trying to put it on, my sister just removed them from her room. I'm so sorry you are at this heartbreaking place, alexa11 .
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Post by gar on May 10, 2021 22:39:39 GMT
Little familiar things from home...a cushion, an ornament, a picture or anything familiar may help ground her when she’s feeling confused.
I went through this a year ago with my Mum so you have my sympathy. It’s not an easy thing for anyone.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 10, 2021 22:42:59 GMT
If the TV has a remote, consider connecting it to a table or chair where the person sits so it won’t get lost. My mom would put the remote in her sweater pocket and then it would get taken out of her room and get lost.
Label EVERYTHING. EVERY. SINGLE. THING. My mom lost her lap blankets multiple times that we had to retrieve from various places because they were difficult to label.
The best advice I can give is to make sure your loved one has frequent visitors. Not only is it good for the person to see familiar faces often, IMO when residents have frequent visitors coming in the staff knows who people are checking on and I think those residents tend to get better care.
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Post by tkdmom on May 10, 2021 22:53:58 GMT
Consult an elder care attorney. The consult fee was worth it as he told us what to do so that a majority of her money could be used for her care. Label everything with her name. Pictures are comforting. In addition to a TV we had a small echo is her room so she could listen to her favorite music. We wrote down the stations she would like and the staff would tell alexa to play when they came into assist her. (Initially she could manage alexa and the TV herself). My sister and I visited every day. Keeps the staff on their toes. I felt sorry for people who had no visitors.
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Post by ckeene on May 10, 2021 23:54:50 GMT
We got my mom a dementia clock from amazon that would saying “it’s the morning of May 10, 2021 at 10:30 am” so she would know if it was morning or night. It helped for a while until she could no longer understand it. Photo books are great - my mom had several she would go through a few times a day. And you can easily replace them if one goes missing. As my mom declined, she loved a stuffed animal of a dog. She would sit with it on her lap and pet it. I am sorry you are going through this, it is so hard.
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Post by calgaryscrapper on May 11, 2021 4:11:09 GMT
Another tip. Never say Good bye. Instead say “see you soon” 
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