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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 19:36:14 GMT
Is anyone else keeping an eye on Japan? Covid numbers have really skyrocketed there and now there is concern regarding the Olympics.
I know the athletes have trained since childhood for this opportunity but with how much travel there will be, and how many people from each country, I think it would be best to skip overall.
I believe North Korea is the only country so far to back out.
Do you think the Olympics will happen?
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Post by gar on May 18, 2021 19:40:35 GMT
I don’t think they should to be honest - and we have yet to see the effects of the Indian variant there.
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Post by Belle on May 18, 2021 19:45:08 GMT
I have definitely been keeping an eye on things. The last I read, their vaccine rate was only 4%. I hope they can turn things around soon.
Not sure what protocols are in place or planned for the Olympics. Those athletes have worked so hard and long and I hope they get to compete one way or another.
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Post by Laurie on May 18, 2021 19:48:20 GMT
I remember reading an article after the 2018 Olympics about the record amount of condoms given out to the athletes and I believe it is because of the std transmission rate usually seen during the events. So I am thinking if std's run rampant I can't imagine what would happen with covid.
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Post by Bridget in MD on May 18, 2021 19:48:23 GMT
Is anyone else keeping an eye on Japan? Covid numbers have really skyrocketed there and now there is concern regarding the Olympics. I know the athletes have trained since childhood for this opportunity but with how much travel there will be, and how many people from each country, I think it would be best to skip overall. I believe North Korea is the only country so far to back out. Do you think the Olympics will happen? I saw an ad for it last night. I understand that people have worked for this goal since childhood, but I guess they are willing to risk their lives to compete. I was shocked they delayed last year - I guess the US isn't the only group of people who don't put the greater good first.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 18, 2021 19:52:25 GMT
There's too much money at stake for Japan to bow out of hosting them at this stage in my opinion. There's been serious backlash from the Japanese people (with good reason) for weeks now and nothing has changed. They'll create an oversized bubble for the athletes and teams and hope for the best. It's going to be a nightmare to manage.
The athletes have a lot to lose here if they aren't fully vaccinated by the time the Games begin. No other country has the vaccination protection the US delegation will be able to provide their staff and athletes so I fear for possible clusters and career-altering side-effects.
Pfizer-BioNTech are donating doses to vaccinate athletes + delegations but it's still going to be a hassle to get all of these people injected with the varying degrees of health coverage and ease of access for quite a few of the countries represented in the Games. And then there will be those who refuse to get vaccinated, too. What a headache.
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Post by mom on May 18, 2021 19:54:19 GMT
I think it should be canceled, but I dont think it will be.
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Post by katlady on May 18, 2021 19:58:48 GMT
I think it should be cancelled but I know the Japanese govt wants it to go on. They have poured so much money into this.
I do feel for the athletes. This may be the only Olympics for many of them. But the athletes do party hard at these games. I don’t know how they’ll protect them all in a bubble, especially when many come from countries that are not heavily vaccinated.
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Post by gar on May 18, 2021 20:19:08 GMT
especially when many come from countries that are not heavily vaccinated. Indeed. It might be possible for certain countries to vaccinate all the relevant people but think about countries like Barundi, or even South Africa or India.
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Post by auntkelly on May 18, 2021 21:02:17 GMT
I hate to say it, because I have really been looking forward to the Olympics, but I think they should cancel.
I heard on NPR today that an organization of 6,000 Japanese doctors called for the cancellation of the games.
I heard the hospitals are at capacity in many of the more remote Olympic venues.
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Post by pinklady on May 18, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
They should absolutely be canceled but they won’t be. People are assholes.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 18, 2021 21:37:44 GMT
I’m surprised that it isn’t a requirement that all athletes be vaccinated. However, I do think they will have very strict rules for the athletes and no family will be going with them.
ETA that I just looked at the numbers and it appears that even though they are high for where Japan has been, they are quite a hit lower than most places in the US.
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Post by quinlove on May 19, 2021 1:05:13 GMT
I’m surprised that it isn’t a requirement that all athletes be vaccinated. However, I do think they will have very strict rules for the athletes and no family will be going with them. ETA that I just looked at the numbers and it appears that even though they are high for where Japan has been, they are quite a hit lower than most places in the US. That’s what I assumed. Vaccinations all around. My family really likes watching this. But, we certainly don’t want to put all those athletes, etc at risk. Darn it.
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Post by auntkelly on May 19, 2021 3:00:39 GMT
I’m surprised that it isn’t a requirement that all athletes be vaccinated. However, I do think they will have very strict rules for the athletes and no family will be going with them. ETA that I just looked at the numbers and it appears that even though they are high for where Japan has been, they are quite a hit lower than most places in the US. I heard on NPR today that the drug companies have offered to provide all the athletes w/ vaccines. However, that is controversial because in some of the countries where the athletes are coming from, health care workers haven’t even had the chance to be vaccinated. Also, I wondered if an unvaccinated athlete would even want to risk the side effects of the vaccine so close to the Olympics. The other concern is that although there will be no spectators, 90,000 volunteers from Japan will be required to help w/ the Olympics. Only a small percentage of the population in Japan has been vaccinated, so presumably, most of those volunteers will not have been vaccinated. I suppose they could be vaccinated, but again you would have the issue of whether those Olympic volunteers should get the vaccine when more high risk citizens haven’t had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
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Post by hookturnian on May 19, 2021 8:16:57 GMT
I read somewhere that Japan stands to lose a lot of money if they cancel the Games. However if the IOC cancels then Japan doesn't take as big a hit. Looks like it's a game of chicken.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 14:58:27 GMT
I don't think they should go ahead. It's far too risky as things are at the moment, globally. Some countries are better than others but that means nothing when everyone is mixed together. Japan, the last time I checked, also doesn't have a very high vaccination record - they're pretty low down the number list, about 3% according to this report LINK
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 19, 2021 15:17:12 GMT
The other concern is that although there will be no spectators, 90,000 volunteers from Japan will be required to help w/ the Olympics. Only a small percentage of the population in Japan has been vaccinated, so presumably, most of those volunteers will not have been vaccinated. I suppose they could be vaccinated, but again you would have the issue of whether those Olympic volunteers should get the vaccine when more high risk citizens haven’t had the opportunity to be vaccinated. The IOC are dancing around with the way they're wording things, too. I just heard they announced that 75% of the residents of the Olympic Village either are already vaccinated or plan on being vaccinated in time for the games. Yah, good luck to the volunteers. They're not residents and will be travelling back and forth between the Games and their homes. It's clear that these Games are going ahead. The IOC are on a communication coup and showcasing their online meetings with the Japanese organisers now. We're past the point of return. The public's being prepared to accept Tokyo 2021. Seiko Hashimoto, head of the 2021 Japanese Olympics, and Thomas Bach, president of the IOC, meeting through video conference today, for the world press to see:
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Post by birukitty on May 19, 2021 20:05:35 GMT
Why can't they cancel and just reschedule for next year in Japan? I know that throws off the every 4 years schedule, but we are talking about a pandemic and a virus that can kill you! Isn't saving people's lives more important than when this event is held?
Can you imagine all of these athletes from different countries mixing together and the different strains of the virus (like the India strain) traveling freely back to other countries. It's exactly what a virus would want and a great way for it to survive and spread.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 19, 2021 20:37:36 GMT
Why can't they cancel and just reschedule for next year in Japan? I know that throws off the every 4 years schedule, but we are talking about a pandemic and a virus that can kill you! Isn't saving people's lives more important than when this event is held? They rescheduled once already. 2022 is the year for the Winter Olympics so that devalues the worth of the Olympics brand for advertisers and sponsors far too heavily. It's now or never. The Olympics are a money machine, not some celebration of sports and sportmanship.
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Post by gar on May 20, 2021 7:44:14 GMT
Yes, sleepingbooty, agreed sadly. It'll happen and thousands and thousands of people will bear the consequences afterwards.
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Post by gillyp on May 20, 2021 8:00:53 GMT
Yes, sleepingbooty, agreed sadly. It'll happen and thousands and thousands of people will bear the consequences afterwards. It’s actually quite terrifying when you think of it. Japan has a reputation for being methodical and on the ball. I would like to think every single attendee is kept in isolation before being allowed to board a plane back to their home and isolated again on arrival. The chances are slim but it’s not impossible. We’ve not gone through over a year of restrictions to have us all put back again.
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Post by gar on May 20, 2021 10:46:34 GMT
Yes, sleepingbooty, agreed sadly. It'll happen and thousands and thousands of people will bear the consequences afterwards. It’s actually quite terrifying when you think of it. Japan has a reputation for being methodical and on the ball. I would like to think every single attendee is kept in isolation before being allowed to board a plane back to their home and isolated again on arrival. The chances are slim but it’s not impossible. We’ve not gone through over a year of restrictions to have us all put back again. Agreed. I would love to think they’ll be strict and superbly organised but inevitably there will be difficulties pulling that off and with people towing the line while there and back home afterwards. All we can do is watch and hope!
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 20, 2021 10:49:49 GMT
I think it would be absolutely bonkers to go ahead with the games.
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Post by used2scrap on May 21, 2021 4:43:47 GMT
Why can't they cancel and just reschedule for next year in Japan? I know that throws off the every 4 years schedule, but we are talking about a pandemic and a virus that can kill you! Isn't saving people's lives more important than when this event is held? They rescheduled once already. 2022 is the year for the Winter Olympics so that devalues the worth of the Olympics brand for advertisers and sponsors far too heavily. It's now or never. The Olympics are a money machine, not some celebration of sports and sportmanship. On the other hand we could get back to the Summer and Winter Olympics being in the same year every year instead of every two years! Yeah right wishful thinking. I hope they are able to have them with as minimal risk as possible.
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Post by nlwilkins on May 21, 2021 6:40:27 GMT
The IOC has very strict requirements for the venues used for the Olympics. Many countries are not interested in hosting the games even without a pandemic going on. Generally, they lose loads of money when hosting the games. I heard somewhere that Japan has been having difficulties in getting the required buildings finished due to the pandemic but were denied an exemption. Japan signed a very detailed contract and does not have the authority to postpone the event. Here is a link that lays it all out that seems to be non-partial sports.yahoo.com/who-has-the-power-to-cancel-the-tokyo-olympics-163052964.html
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