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Post by librarylady on May 19, 2021 22:14:10 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on May 19, 2021 23:01:36 GMT
Thank you for sharing! Interesting to see the different types on maps.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 19, 2021 23:05:55 GMT
Can't read the article. Ya have to pay or sign up. Can you copy/paste it here?
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Post by mollycoddle on May 19, 2021 23:24:39 GMT
19% are Covid skeptics in Ohio. Wonderful. The national average is 14%. Way to go, Ohio.
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Post by AussieMeg on May 19, 2021 23:31:18 GMT
The "cost anxious" one surprised me. The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? Asked and answered.
And where do the anti-vaxxers sit? Are they in the System Distrusters or the COVID Skeptics?
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Post by luckyexwife on May 19, 2021 23:35:08 GMT
The "cost anxious" one surprised me. The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? And where do the anti-vaxxers sit? Are they in the System Distrusters or the COVID Skeptics? The vaccine is free, but the costs associated with it, such as missed work, getting to the vaccine site, etc.
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Post by basketdiva on May 19, 2021 23:36:20 GMT
The "cost anxious" one surprised me. The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? And where do the anti-vaxxers sit? Are they in the System Distrusters or the COVID Skeptics? The vaccine is free in the US, so the only cost would be time off work. There are so many options these days to get the vaccine ( at least in my state- mass vaccination centers, pharmacies, pop-up events, etc) that people should be able to not take off work.
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Post by lostwithout2peas on May 19, 2021 23:42:58 GMT
Very interesting article, thanks for sharing!
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Post by AussieMeg on May 19, 2021 23:51:33 GMT
The vaccine is free, but the costs associated with it, such as missed work, getting to the vaccine site, etc. The vaccine is free in the US, so the only cost would be time off work. Ah right, that makes sense, thanks.
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Post by sassyangel on May 19, 2021 23:58:43 GMT
The vaccine is free, but the costs associated with it, such as missed work, getting to the vaccine site, etc. The vaccine is free in the US, so the only cost would be time off work. Ah right, that makes sense, thanks. Dipping their toes into the socialized medicine pool for this. 😃
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Post by sassyangel on May 20, 2021 0:02:26 GMT
The "cost anxious" one surprised me. The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? And where do the anti-vaxxers sit? Are they in the System Distrusters or the COVID Skeptics? The vaccine is free, but the costs associated with it, such as missed work, getting to the vaccine site, etc. I should add some states (and individual companies) have addressed this where you can use a sick leave pool to get your shots and be paid on the clock, but it’s mostly the usual states that consider things like this important - definitely not all of them
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 0:07:04 GMT
The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? I don't think I've heard of the Covid-19 vaccine not being free anywhere in the EU. I did read an article back in February/March about people in India wishing to get vaccinated in private hospitals having to pay for their actual shots (not just the service provided). Some Indian states back then were also considering making citizens pay a subsidised fee per shot. Not sure what has happened since their massive third wave hit. Hopefully it's free for all now! Covax programme beneficiaries are probably not allowed to bill their citizens for getting vaccinated. I don't see how they could make money off donated doses. I'm sure there's some legally binding agreement in place over this.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on May 20, 2021 12:29:21 GMT
We are one of the areas primarily listed as cost-anxious. It is free and readily available throughout the state. You sign up online and can get it the same or next day, and in my opinion, we have had a very efficient system, run by the national guard, for testing and vaccine distribution. One of the best - people were traveling here at one point because the State-facilitated distribution in the beginning made it easy to find doses.
However, the areas that skew our numbers in every statistic are going to skew this one, too. There are still parts of the state that aren’t very well educated, are extremely rural, and do not have easy access to things you would expect, including grocery stores, pharmacies, and medical clinics without a drive “into town” an hour or more away. They may not have reliable internet access or the education to use it if they do. These are most likely the areas where people won’t take the time to drive to a drive-through clinic or pharmacy in the county seat or don’t understand the process to do so. They are also the areas where Covid never spread significantly because their contact with other people was so limited, so they wouldn’t see it as a priority. My brother’s little town went a good 6 months past the rest of the state before they had their first case.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 12:52:43 GMT
Covid skeptics: "The key to engaging this group will be to avoid trying to debunk what they believe; "
Yes. Because heaven forbid we try to show people facts/evidence/reality and expect them to take information on-board with even a modicum of an open mind.
Thanks, "beliefs!!!"
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Post by librarylady on May 20, 2021 15:19:49 GMT
Can't read the article. Ya have to pay or sign up. Can you copy/paste it here? I will, but clear your cache and it should allow you the __- number of free articles each month. It is a way to make NYT think you have not read any.
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Post by librarylady on May 20, 2021 15:25:55 GMT
The images and interactive links won't work, but here is the information:
Meet the Four Kinds of People Holding Us Back From Full Vaccination
By Sema SgaierMay 18, 2021 Nicholas Konrad/The New York Times
Getting everyone vaccinated in the United States has become much harder now that demand for the Covid-19 vaccine is flagging. America’s vaccination strategy needs to change to address this, and it starts with understanding the specific reasons people have not been vaccinated yet.
The conventional approach to understanding whether someone will get vaccinated is asking people how likely they are to get the vaccine and then building a demographic profile based on their answers: Black, white, Latinx, Republican, Democrat. But this process isn’t enough: Just knowing that Republicans are less likely to get vaccinated doesn’t tell us how to get them vaccinated. It’s more important to understand why people are still holding out, where those people live and how to reach them.
After conducting a national survey of U.S. adults, we grouped people into distinct profiles based on their shared beliefs and barriers to getting the vaccine. This approach, borrowed from the marketing world, is called psychobehavioral segmentation. It will allow health officials to target their strategies in ways that ignore demographic categories, like age and race. In the United States, we used this approach to identify five distinct personas: the Enthusiasts, the Watchful, the Cost-Anxious, the System Distrusters and the Covid Skeptics.
People in each segment share some beliefs and barriers about Covid-19 vaccination. And each persona includes at least some of every demographic: Republicans, Black people, the middle class, young people and others.
Here are the groups health officials need to reach — and how to reach them, based on their fears, concerns and barriers.
Covid Skeptics are at the far end of the spectrum as the least likely to get vaccinated. The primary barrier for people in this group are their specific, deeply held beliefs about Covid-19. Everyone in this group believes at least one conspiracy theory related to the pandemic, whether it’s that microchips are implanted with the Covid vaccine; Covid-19 has been exploited by the government to control people; or that the pandemic was caused by a ring of people who secretly manipulate world events.
We found Covid Skeptics are common in Arkansas, North Dakota and Nevada. Considering that 84 percent of this group believe that the government is exploiting Covid-19 to control people, leaders of vaccination campaigns should consider tapping nonpolitical figures to mobilize this group. Doctors are trusted by 50 percent of this group, while scientists are trusted by 32 percent. They could also use religious leaders, who may resonate best with 9 percent of group members who say the vaccine goes against their religious beliefs.
The key to engaging this group will be to avoid trying to debunk what they believe; rather, experts need to listen, acknowledge how they feel and then share the facts. Our research finds that emphasizing that vaccination is their own, personal choice — one that can help them protect friends and family members — can also work.
Cost-Anxious The Cost-Anxious worry about the time and potential expense of getting vaccinated (even if it is actually free). We learned they’re dominant in states like Mississippi, where they make up 23 percent of the population, which is not surprising due to the state’s high poverty rates and low Medicaid coverage.
Public health experts have stressed the need to bring vaccines to the people; with no group is this truer than for the Cost-Anxious. Holding vaccination clinics in non-health-care locations that people frequent — like workplaces, religious venues, day cares, supermarkets, bars and restaurants — will be critical.
For this group, vaccination campaign leaders should stress that vaccination is totally free and encourage local businesses to provide paid time off for both doses.
System Distrusters The System Distrusters believe that the health care system doesn't treat them fairly. Most, but not all, members of this group are people of color, and they prevail in Washington, D.C., Maryland and Georgia.
It will be important for public health officials to hold conversations — formal or informal — with trusted members of their own communities to air concerns and be transparent about efforts to vaccinate underserved communities. People in this group have low expectations that other members of their communities will get vaccinated, so making vaccinations of people they know as visible as possible will be important. Tracking and illuminating efforts to ensure the vaccine rollout is equitable and sharing that with the community is key.
The Watchful
The Watchful are holding out to see what kind of experience their friends or neighbors have with the vaccine before committing themselves. They dominate in Delaware, making up 17 percent of the state’s population, as well as 12 percent in Hawaii and Rhode Island.
Behavioral science researchers know that establishing norms can lead to acceptance of products and could help persuade the Watchful. Encouraging those who are vaccinated to show their vaccination status with pride, both online and offline, can nudge their family, friends and networks to follow suit. The Watchful are already likely to wear masks, showing an intent to comply with social norms, so they may respond to similar altruistic messages about vaccination and get vaccinated to protect others.
For this group, experts should consider allowing for a “vaccinate later” option. Behavioral science suggests that people prefer moderate or “compromise” options over their extreme counterparts. Being able to opt-in to vaccines down the road may provide a comfortable alternative for this group.
With only 60 percent of U.S. adults having received their first shot, we are still far from President Biden’s target of 70 percent by the Fourth of July. This national average also hides an important truth: The country is a patchwork, with states like Vermont tracking higher (with 78 percent of adults having received their first dose) and states like Mississippi tracking lower (42 percent of adults). Therefore, we can’t rely on a one-size-fits-all approach.
President Biden’s aggressive Fourth of July goal will be tough to meet without understanding what drives lower vaccine confidence and where various strategies to combat it will be most effective. And we can’t stop at the state level; we need to go county by county and ZIP code by ZIP code, offering specific, localized solutions to convince the holdouts. It will also be important that everyone — not just the health care professionals and the politicians — do their part. It won’t be easy, but it must be done to ensure that more people get vaccinated.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on May 20, 2021 18:51:53 GMT
Our agency was able to pay staff time and mileage to get the vaccine. We did everything we could to get staff vaccinated. I know another program that set up a vaccination clinic at one of the sites for their families to get vaccinated if they wanted to. I work for Head Start and Community Action and I know a lot of programs are working really hard to get whoever wants the vaccines to the vaccine clinics. We offered free bus rides and such.
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Post by sassyangel on May 20, 2021 19:43:42 GMT
I can verify living smack in the middle of Covid skeptic land. Yay. 😒
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Post by pixiechick on May 21, 2021 17:37:42 GMT
I wonder why they didn't include those that got the antibodies naturally because they got Covid and therefore don't feel the need to inject the antibodies.
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Post by huskermom98 on May 21, 2021 18:09:35 GMT
I wonder why they didn't include those that got the antibodies naturally because they got Covid and therefore don't feel the need to inject the antibodies. I wondered this too because it describes me & my entire office since we all had covid in February. At least two of them with ongoing medical issues were told to wait at least 90 days from date of positive test to get the vaccine. I know it's a short term excuse, but it's certainly a reason some people haven't been vaccinated. I just had my first shot on Wednesday & can completely understand why people are worried about missing work afterwards. I was in bad shape yesterday & didn't want to do anything but sleep for most of the day (thankfully I'm much better today). I really hope I don't have a repeat experience with my 2nd shot next month.
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Post by smartypants71 on May 21, 2021 18:24:31 GMT
The "cost anxious" one surprised me. The COVID vaccine is free in Australia. How much do you have to pay to get it in the US? And what about other countries - do you have to pay? And where do the anti-vaxxers sit? Are they in the System Distrusters or the COVID Skeptics? The vaccine is free in the US, so the only cost would be time off work. There are so many options these days to get the vaccine ( at least in my state- mass vaccination centers, pharmacies, pop-up events, etc) that people should be able to not take off work. There is also that risk of needing to take off work due to the side effects vaccine. Many people are sick for 1-2 days later.
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Post by littlemama on May 22, 2021 19:48:37 GMT
I wonder why they didn't include those that got the antibodies naturally because they got Covid and therefore don't feel the need to inject the antibodies. Those would fall under Covid Skeptics.
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Post by pixiechick on May 22, 2021 21:46:56 GMT
I wonder why they didn't include those that got the antibodies naturally because they got Covid and therefore don't feel the need to inject the antibodies. Those would fall under Covid Skeptics. How are they skeptics of covid if they not only acknowledge it exists, but also that they contracted the virus, and have the antibodies from the the thing that they acknowledge does exist?
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Post by peano on May 22, 2021 21:51:11 GMT
Those would fall under Covid Skeptics. How are they skeptics of covid if they not only acknowledge it exists, but also that they contracted the virus, and have the antibodies from the the thing that they acknowledge does exist? I read a story of someone quite sick and in the hospital getting ready to be put on a vent who was angry and still in denial.
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Post by pixiechick on May 22, 2021 22:10:40 GMT
How are they skeptics of covid if they not only acknowledge it exists, but also that they contracted the virus, and have the antibodies from the the thing that they acknowledge does exist? I read a story of someone quite sick and in the hospital getting ready to be put on a vent who was angry and still in denial. That one person you read about is not the category of people I was describing. The people I was describing, do acknowledge that it does indeed exist. Therefore they can not be described as skeptics, yet they were not included in a category. I simply wonder why they weren't.
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Post by littlemama on May 22, 2021 22:50:08 GMT
Those would fall under Covid Skeptics. How are they skeptics of covid if they not only acknowledge it exists, but also that they contracted the virus, and have the antibodies from the the thing that they acknowledge does exist? Because you stated that " they dont feel the need" to be vaccinated. That is very different than "they sre required to wait"
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Post by pixiechick on May 22, 2021 23:05:57 GMT
How are they skeptics of covid if they not only acknowledge it exists, but also that they contracted the virus, and have the antibodies from the the thing that they acknowledge does exist? Because you stated that " they dont feel the need" to be vaccinated. That is very different than "they sre required to wait" That's still not a covid skeptic.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 22, 2021 23:10:39 GMT
Thinking about cost like time off work, I was vaccinated on two Saturdays. Are some states not providing them on weekends? Or maybe part of costs is worrying that side effects could keep them off of work. Watching the Nationals - Orioles baseball game today on t.v., a walk-up vaccine clinic was advertised at the Nats ballpark. “The one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine will be available at a walk-up clinic at Nationals Park, and the first 200 fans to get vaccinated will get a Nats-themed prize bag... If that isn’t sufficiently tempting, those who get vaccinated at the walk-up site at Atlas Brew Works will get a beer on the house, according to D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser.” i hope lots of large businesses are stepping up, and employers are offering incentives. wtop.com/dc/2021/05/beer-and-baseball-dc-branches-out-to-incentivize-residents-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/
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Post by littlemama on May 22, 2021 23:34:59 GMT
Because you stated that " they dont feel the need" to be vaccinated. That is very different than "they sre required to wait" That's still not a covid skeptic. Sure it is. They are basing their behavior on what they think, not what science and experts have determined. Clearly skeptics.
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Post by pixiechick on May 23, 2021 0:01:15 GMT
That's still not a covid skeptic. Sure it is. They are basing their behavior on what they think, not what science and experts have determined. Clearly skeptics. No it isnt. Covid Skeptics are at the far end of the spectrum as the least likely to get vaccinated. The primary barrier for people in this group are their specific, deeply held beliefs about Covid-19. Everyone in this group believes at least one conspiracy theory related to the pandemic, whether it’s that microchips are implanted with the Covid vaccine; Covid-19 has been exploited by the government to control people; or that the pandemic was caused by a ring of people who secretly manipulate world events. The people that already have antibodies but don't believe any of that nonsense do not fall into the skeptic category. Not as described by the article. Why did they leave this category of people out?
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