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Post by pixiechick on May 20, 2021 5:06:48 GMT
I've never had it before and always wanted to try it. Now I have some to try. I didn't know if I should heat it up or not, so I googled and apparently it's eaten either way. So, is it better hot or cold?
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Post by lucyg on May 20, 2021 5:51:40 GMT
It’s nice fresh and hot, but it’s also fine leftover and cold. I like a savory kugel better than a sweet one, but honestly, they’re both good!
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Post by hookturnian on May 20, 2021 9:09:33 GMT
In South African slang, a kugel is a vapid, rich, materialistic, overly made-up, Real Housewives-type young Jewish woman. Originally the word was only used by the Jewish community, but it has spread over time to the English speaking communities. The male equivalent is a bagel. dsae.co.za/entry/kugel/e04137
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Post by elaine on May 20, 2021 12:09:18 GMT
In South African slang, a kugel is a vapid, rich, materialistic, overly made-up, Real Housewives-type young Jewish woman. Originally the word was only used by the Jewish community, but it has spread over time to the English speaking communities. The male equivalent is a bagel. dsae.co.za/entry/kugel/e04137😱 What an offensive stereotypical slur. Like lucyg, I prefer my kugels savory, but will eat all types. For me, warm is best. Is yours noodle-based? I make a noodle-based kugel, but have made matzo-based kugel for Pesach.
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Post by liya on May 20, 2021 12:27:21 GMT
I also prefer savory. I would not eat the sweet kugel my grandmother made when I was a child. She put raisins in it; if I remember correctly. To this day I still do not like raisins in my baked goods. As an aside she used to bake 2 separate batches of rugulah-one with raisins and one without
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Post by peppermintpatty on May 20, 2021 12:44:27 GMT
Sweet all the WAY!!! I don't like the savory. It is good hot and great for breakfast the next morning. I will eat it hot or cold.
You don't have to put raisins in it. I don't.
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Post by elaine on May 20, 2021 13:01:27 GMT
I also prefer savory. I would not eat the sweet kugel my grandmother made when I was a child. She put raisins in it; if I remember correctly. To this day I still do not like raisins in my baked goods. As an aside she used to bake 2 separate batches of rugulah-one with raisins and one without I’ll admit that I’m not a huge raisin fan either. And if I do make a kugel with raisins, it has to be the golden ones. Rugulah never needs raisins, IMO! 😄 Apricot is my favorite. Your grandmother sounds like a treasure. ❤️
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Post by liya on May 20, 2021 13:10:09 GMT
I also prefer savory. I would not eat the sweet kugel my grandmother made when I was a child. She put raisins in it; if I remember correctly. To this day I still do not like raisins in my baked goods. As an aside she used to bake 2 separate batches of rugulah-one with raisins and one without I’ll admit that I’m not a huge raisin fan either. And if I do make a kugel with raisins, it has to be the golden ones. Rugulah never needs raisins, IMO! 😄 Apricot is my favorite. Your grandmother sounds like a treasure. ❤️ Thank you elaine she truly was. She is greatly missed.
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Post by cakediva on May 20, 2021 13:22:54 GMT
In South African slang, a kugel is a vapid, rich, materialistic, overly made-up, Real Housewives-type young Jewish woman. Originally the word was only used by the Jewish community, but it has spread over time to the English speaking communities. The male equivalent is a bagel. dsae.co.za/entry/kugel/e04137WTF does this have to do with the OP or the question asked? I'm not a Jewish pea, and not much offends me, but I read this and was instantly offended.
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Post by scrappinghappy on May 20, 2021 13:44:41 GMT
In South African slang, a kugel is a vapid, rich, materialistic, overly made-up, Real Housewives-type young Jewish woman. Originally the word was only used by the Jewish community, but it has spread over time to the English speaking communities. The male equivalent is a bagel. dsae.co.za/entry/kugel/e04137Your true anti-Semitic colors are showing.
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Post by whipea on May 20, 2021 13:54:12 GMT
In South African slang, a kugel is a vapid, rich, materialistic, overly made-up, Real Housewives-type young Jewish woman. Originally the word was only used by the Jewish community, but it has spread over time to the English speaking communities. The male equivalent is a bagel. dsae.co.za/entry/kugel/e04137Gross and irrelevant.
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Post by leeny on May 20, 2021 15:46:32 GMT
Not a fan of sweet, but the rest of my family loves it. My mom has always put white raisins in hers. But I love a good thick potato kugel!
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Post by katiekaty on May 20, 2021 16:04:34 GMT
A doctor brought some to a meeting we had once I tried it then. I don’t know if it was just not a good one or not but I did not care for it. I didn’t care for the texture or taste . It was an odd savory one that just did hit my taste buds right. I haven’t come across one since to try, but it left me not willing to try to make one either and I am an adventurous cook.
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Post by lesley on May 20, 2021 17:17:24 GMT
As a linguist, I thought hookturnian 's post was interesting. I accept that the term itself is offensive, but I don't think hookturnian was personally offensive. She did not say she uses the term, merely that it is South African slang. To say that it shows she is anti-Semitic is a bit of a stretch and may have more to do with the discussion on the thread about Israel than this one. IMHO.
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Post by magellen on May 20, 2021 17:27:07 GMT
This reminds me of a polish dish. If anyone know the real recipe or what it is call I would appreciate you posting.
Sweeten bread pressed in a 9 x 13 baking dish Spread a mixture of sweeten farmers cheese and raisins over it. I think the there was eggs in this mixture. Lattice thin strips of the sweeten bread dough over the top. Bake.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 17:33:52 GMT
To say that it shows she is anti-Semitic is a bit of a stretch and may have more to do with the discussion on the thread about Israel than this one. IMHO. I don't remember there being anything anti-Semitic in the Israel thread. People have been very vocal about governments and politics in there, not religion.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 17:36:03 GMT
This reminds me of a polish dish. If anyone know the real recipe or what it is call I would appreciate you posting. Sweeten bread pressed in a 9 x 13 baking dish Spread a mixture of sweeten farmers cheese and raisins over it. I think the there was eggs in this mixture. Lattice thin strips of the sweeten bread dough over the top. Bake. Žemlovka?
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Post by lesley on May 20, 2021 18:38:14 GMT
To say that it shows she is anti-Semitic is a bit of a stretch and may have more to do with the discussion on the thread about Israel than this one. IMHO. I don't remember there being anything anti-Semitic in the Israel thread. People have been very vocal about governments and politics in there, not religion. Only from the point of view that some people think being critical of Israel is the same as being anti-Semitic.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 20, 2021 18:49:31 GMT
To the OP, warm. Sweet. But cold is better than none. I haven’t had any in years. Whole Foods used to make it - maybe just certain times of the year? It was okay, but not my mother’s, who learned from her mother.
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Post by elaine on May 20, 2021 18:52:20 GMT
As a linguist, I thought hookturnian 's post was interesting. I accept that the term itself is offensive, but I don't think hookturnian was personally offensive. She did not say she uses the term, merely that it is South African slang. To say that it shows she is anti-Semitic is a bit of a stretch and may have more to do with the discussion on the thread about Israel than this one. IMHO. Actually, I stopped reading that thread, so I don’t know what she said there. I am actually gobsmocked at your take on the post. If in the middle of a conversation about Spic & Span cleaner, I posted the slur definition of Spic, that would be racist. If I were to post the slur definition of Wop on a thread about doo-wop music, that would be racist. As a linguist, do you often find racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic slur words to simply be “interesting?” Do you think it is remotely appropriate to throw them into a thread that has nothing to do with that topic - especially when the slur is chock full of anti-Semitic stereotypes? Do you find it interesting when white people use the “n word?” Or is that racist? Is okay for a straight person to get on a thread about bundles of wood and talk about the slur usage of “fag?” If you find any of the above examples to be something other than “interesting,” especially when Jewish people on the thread are telling you they find it offensive, I guess that I’d ask you to explain why those examples are different/more offensive to you.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 18:53:50 GMT
I don't remember there being anything anti-Semitic in the Israel thread. People have been very vocal about governments and politics in there, not religion. Only from the point of view that some people think being critical of Israel is the same as being anti-Semitic. Thanks for clarifying! I thought there had been some drama that had been deleted that I'd missed.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 19:00:24 GMT
If you find any of the above examples to be something other than “interesting,” especially when Jewish people on the thread are telling you they find it offensive, I guess that I’d ask you to explain why those examples are different/more offensive to you. The origins of those slang words are definitely racist and a slap in the face to (Ashkenazi) Jews, elaine. I'd never heard of those South-African terms before but I can see how a linguist could find them of interest. It reveals a socio-historical layer to a particular country/region/society that you may not have known of before (and when you factor in the large population of Ashkenazi Jews living in SA, it makes the whole thing even worse). That doesn't make the use of the terms in everyday life ok.
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Post by magellen on May 20, 2021 19:16:30 GMT
This reminds me of a polish dish. If anyone know the real recipe or what it is call I would appreciate you posting. Sweeten bread pressed in a 9 x 13 baking dish Spread a mixture of sweeten farmers cheese and raisins over it. I think the there was eggs in this mixture. Lattice thin strips of the sweeten bread dough over the top. Bake. Žemlovka? This dish I saw made was with Sweet bread dough not leftover bread. It reminded me of a pan size danish.
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Post by elaine on May 20, 2021 19:21:38 GMT
If you find any of the above examples to be something other than “interesting,” especially when Jewish people on the thread are telling you they find it offensive, I guess that I’d ask you to explain why those examples are different/more offensive to you. The origins of those slang words are definitely racist and a slap in the face to (Ashkenazi) Jews, elaine . I'd never heard of those South-African terms before but I can see how a linguist could find them of interest. It reveals a socio-historical layer to a particular country/region/society that you may not have known of before (and when you factor in the large population of Ashkenazi Jews living in SA, it makes the whole thing even worse). That doesn't make the use of the terms in everyday life ok. My BIL is a South African Jew who is now living with my sister in Israel, so I have a modicum of knowledge about South African Jews, as I’ve spent time around him, his family, and his friends from home. 😃 There is a large Lubavitcher (my sister & BIL’s sect) contingent in South Africa. Just because an anti-Semitic slur exists doesn’t mean that it needs to be/should be thrown into a discussion about food. I certainly don’t need to read it posted by someone who casually throws it out there as “slang” rather than acknowledging it as a “slur” and with no condemnation whatsoever.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 19:25:01 GMT
This dish I saw made was with Sweet bread dough not leftover bread. It reminded me of a pan size danish. I'm trying to think of a Slavic dish that would necessarily be pan-sized but maybe they just made a big version of something like poale-n brau or drożdżówki z serem?
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 19:28:11 GMT
Just because an anti-Semitic slur exists doesn’t mean that it needs to be/should be thrown into a discussion about food. I certainly don’t need to read it posted by someone who casually throws it out there as “slang” rather than acknowledging it as a “slur” and with no condemnation whatsoever. I get that. It was really weird in this discussion. Talking about a recipe is not some open door to throw in random racist anecdotes. I only commented on how I understood it could be interesting to a linguist although, again, what an inappropriate place and time.
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Post by elaine on May 20, 2021 19:44:04 GMT
Just because an anti-Semitic slur exists doesn’t mean that it needs to be/should be thrown into a discussion about food. I certainly don’t need to read it posted by someone who casually throws it out there as “slang” rather than acknowledging it as a “slur” and with no condemnation whatsoever. I get that. It was really weird in this discussion. Talking about a recipe is not some open door to throw in random racist anecdotes. I only commented on how I understood it could be interesting to a linguist although, again, what an inappropriate place and time. Thanks. ❤️
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 20, 2021 19:57:51 GMT
I get that. It was really weird in this discussion. Talking about a recipe is not some open door to throw in random racist anecdotes. I only commented on how I understood it could be interesting to a linguist although, again, what an inappropriate place and time. Thanks. ❤️ ❤️
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on May 20, 2021 21:04:38 GMT
Sweet all the WAY!!! I don't like the savory. It is good hot and great for breakfast the next morning. I will eat it hot or cold. You don't have to put raisins in it. I don't. I've only had sweet but I loved it! Someone brought it to an office potluck lunch years ago and I still remember how good it was!
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Post by pixiechick on May 20, 2021 21:17:55 GMT
Okay, I tried a bite cold from the fridge and then warmed the rest of my serving up. I like it warm better. It was really good and for the record had raisins. I don't think I was aware there was a savory version and now I want to try that. As an aside she used to bake 2 separate batches of rugulah-one with raisins and one without Years ago I tried chocolate rugulah and loved it. I always like to get some when I see it, but most I've found never really are that good. When I found this noodle kugel, I also found a source for the perfect chocolate rugulah. It's the little things.
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