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Post by flanz on May 30, 2021 21:44:22 GMT
I have wondered about this for myself for a very long time and yesterday DD recommended a book for me: It Didn't Start With You by Mark Wolynnwww.amazon.com/Didnt-Start-You-Inherited-Family/dp/1101980389/ref=sr_1_2?crid=355O9ETM9SQZ8&dchild=1&keywords=it+didn%27t+start+with+you+by+mark+wolynn&qid=1622410813&sprefix=it+didn%27t+start%2Caps%2C248&sr=8-2The bit I could read as well as a 35 min. video on the author's website really resonated with me. I had some epiphanies, which were mentally exhausting, and am considering seeking out a local therapist specializing in this work. Both of my parents and their parents suffered multiple traumas and I have had weird reactions to meds, foods, normally benign substances, flowers/fragrance for most of my life, def. all of my adult life, and I'm 60yo. I'm going to read the book mentioned above and am considering spending $500 for a two hour session with the author. I looked at the list of questions he asks people to consider before making an appointment and so many of them are relevant in my case. Hoping there are others here i can talk to about this. UPDATE June 4 I am reading and finding the book very useful. Just made an appointment with a local therapist who has experience working with PTSD and inherited trauma, and who formerly ran a support group for children of Holocaust survivors. She also teaches in the psychology dept. at a local college. Price to see her is $180 per 45 minute session. ($500 for 2 hours with the book auther doesn't sound so far fetched to me.)
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on May 30, 2021 22:28:42 GMT
I do not believe that trauma can be inherited via DNA. I believe that each person is shaped by their unique experiences in life. Certainly if my mother was sexually abused by her alcoholic father and her co-dependent mother did not protect her (all true for me), my mother's experiences influenced the way she raised me and my siblings. I also believe that mental illness can be genetic so it is not surprising that my daughter has BPD just like my mother did. But I do not believe that my mother inherited her trauma from her parents (although I know that both of her parents had terrible childhoods) nor do I believe I inherited anything similar from my mother. I will absolutely admit to having some very bizarre experiences as a child of someone whose BPD sometimes gave her psychotic episodes. But I do not think anything is connected to DNA.
I do hope that everyone who had a childhood that was impacted by parents with mental illness or other trauma/toxicity find a way to move into their future selves in peace. If this book helps some people do that, then more power to that.
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Post by Zee on May 30, 2021 22:34:29 GMT
Life here on earth is traumatic for every living thing since life is just killing something else in order to survive.
The idea that the author will take your $500 for a session about "inherited trauma" tells me all I need to know.
Seriously... Everyone has had a trauma of some sort, but the idea that certain food intolerances are caused by something your grandma went through is just more woo-woo than I can take.
I wish I had the lack of decency to take someone for a $500 ride with this theory.
Don't fall for this.
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Post by christine58 on May 30, 2021 22:43:53 GMT
Life here on earth is traumatic for every living thing since life is just killing something else in order to survive. The idea that the author will take your $500 for a session about "inherited trauma" tells me all I need to know. Seriously... Everyone has had a trauma of some sort, but the idea that certain food intolerances are caused by something your grandma went through is just more woo-woo than I can take. I wish I had the lack of decency to take someone for a $500 ride with this theory. Don't fall for this. Please don’t fall for this. Zee has great words of wisdom. There’s no way you inherit trauma via DNA.
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 30, 2021 22:53:11 GMT
My Mum when she had memory loss told me about the mental and physical trauma she endured and I did not pick it up. I have my own trauma be it suicide attempts or being scared or in multiple rear ended car accidents. None of this was my mother’s trauma. I think getting counselling is a great idea for your own life circumstances. Not this way.❤️
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Post by fuji on May 30, 2021 23:01:52 GMT
Epigenetics is still a very new field and far from clearly defined. But there have been multiple studies that suggest inherited trauma is real.  One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it.
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Post by voltagain on May 30, 2021 23:03:37 GMT
I have wondered about this for myself for a very long time and yesterday DD recommended a book for me: It Didn't Start With You by Mark Wolynnwww.amazon.com/Didnt-Start-You-Inherited-Family/dp/1101980389/ref=sr_1_2?crid=355O9ETM9SQZ8&dchild=1&keywords=it+didn%27t+start+with+you+by+mark+wolynn&qid=1622410813&sprefix=it+didn%27t+start%2Caps%2C248&sr=8-2The bit I could read as well as a 35 min. video on the author's website really resonated with me. I had some epiphanies, which were mentally exhausting, and am considering seeking out a local therapist specializing in this work. Both of my parents and their parents suffered multiple traumas and I have had weird reactions to meds, foods, normally benign substances, flowers/fragrance for most of my life, def. all of my adult life, and I'm 60yo. I'm going to read the book mentioned above and am considering spending $500 for a two hour session with the author. I looked at the list of questions he asks people to consider before making an appointment and so many of them are relevant in my case. Hoping there are others here i can talk to about this. My advice is read the book (borrow from the library if you can) But, 2 hours is not sufficient time for any in-depth understanding of your life for him to be able to give you specific advice. Save the $500 and use it for a lengthy involvement with a licensed psychologist for many months.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 30, 2021 23:09:16 GMT
The study of historical or intergenerational trauma and Epigenetics Is pretty new. Here is a good article from the APA that describes how this field of study came about and what they have found so far. It isn’t quite as “woo woo” as some are making it seem (without really knowing anything about it). That being said, I haven’t heard/read about things like food sensitivity being related to intergenerational trauma but I’m not familiar with the author or book that the OP mentioned. I do agree that we all have some form of trauma and my initial response with the info that I have on the subject is that trauma changes how we interact with others—including our kids—and that can affect future generations. But they are also starting to look at genetic changes that could be coming about as well. www.apa.org/monitor/2019/02/legacy-trauma
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Post by elaine on May 30, 2021 23:10:18 GMT
I believe people “inherit” the trauma their parents suffered through a behavioral/learning framework - parents interact with their children based on their own life experiences and that is how trauma is passed down.
I do not believe that traumatic experiences somehow become coded in DNA and that our parents’/grandparents’/ancestors‘ trauma was passed on to us genetically.
That isn’t to say that there aren’t genetic predispositions to a variety of mental illnesses, but those predispositions didn’t come about due to some traumatic experience someone experienced anymore than genetic predispositions to heart disease or diabetes or cancer are due to trauma our parents experienced.
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Post by freecharlie on May 30, 2021 23:19:57 GMT
I'm not sure I buy a DNA pass down, but I know that I've picked up on some of my dad's quirks from his time in Vietnam.
Dh makes fun of me (lightly, it's fine) because of my need to sit at a specific seat at a table in the restaurant. My dad has done it all my life because he didn't want his back to a door in case the enemy was coming in he'd be ready. I've obviously never been in war and yet, I panic if I can't see most of the restaurant/door. (I always defer to my father and then everyone else defers to me)
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Post by pilcas on May 30, 2021 23:27:24 GMT
I would certainly read the book if I could get my hands on it. However remember that these authors are making money by selling their product. I would research what his qualifications are to give psychological advice. Find a licensed therapist if you need to but this just screams money grabbing ploy.
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Post by flanz on May 30, 2021 23:37:19 GMT
Epigenetics is still a very new field and far from clearly defined. But there have been multiple studies that suggest inherited trauma is real.  One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, positive or negative. I sincerely want to hear what you have to say on the subject. I know it is a very "woo woo" idea for a great many. the book has over 4,000 reviews, 81% of them are 5 star, another 10% 4 star. busy - I just noticed that you posted this back in 2016. If you have any thoughts on the subject, please share here. I believe that it is quite possible that our parents' and grandparents' genetic material changed as a result of trauma and that my own DNA would have then been affected. to be honest, it has been VERY challenging living in this body for all of this time, highly reactive to sooo many things most people have zero issue with. For 10-12 weeks every spring and fall I need to spend almost 100% of my time indoors due to my severely debilitating allergies. We're talking sinus migraines that don't really respond to meds, and severe fatigue. Not minor annoyances. This year the spring season is dragging on longer than usual. And if it comes to an end, I still need to wear a mask if I want to be outside in our front or backyard due to 2 neighbors have jasmine in their yards. the smell gives me an instant headache. There are a great many foods I have to avoid, etc. etc. It's far from a "normal" life and yet it is much better than the hands some people are dealt. I had a great day last Saturday and Sunday Monday were decent, and then back to sleepy and feeling horrible. After months of feeling really compromised and unable to do what I want to do. It was like "the good life" being dangled in front of me and then being harshly wrenched away as if to say, "that's for other people, not for YOU." I'm definitely going to read the book and think about this more before plunking down $500 but for those of you who think that is highway robbery, around here a 45 or 55 minute session with a therapist costs $120-220 on a sliding scale fee structure. Some offer just one price, much higher than the $120. I'm thinking that at this point in my life two hours with someone whose life work is focused on this issue is an investment I'm willing to make. Again, I don't plan to even make an appointment until finishing the book. ETA: When I speak of traumas I mean horrific war related traumas, and more.
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Post by birukitty on May 30, 2021 23:38:48 GMT
I also don't believe trauma is inherited through our DNA. What is inherited through our DNA is our genes and sometimes we can inherit mutations on those genes that mess with our physical health. I have two mutations on my MTHFR gene that is messing with my health big time. Most doctors don't even know about this, but luckily my Integrative Doctor does. 9 years ago he gave me a blood test to test for it and it came back positive. At the time I'd been battling a 10 year battle with what was diagnosed as "resistant depression" because we'd treat it with one medication and it'd work for awhile but then stop and we'd be on to the next. I was never suicidal, I was more in a catatonic state. Eventually my psychiatrist convinced me to try electric shock therapy-don't ever do this-and it took away about 50% of my long term memories. Of course they lied and said it wouldn't.
Anyway, once my Integrative Doctor found out about the MTHFR he told me that with my condition my body can't process B12 from regular vitamins or injections. I had to have a special formulation of B12. Once I started taking it my depression vanished and never returned. If it went on longer without treatment I would have developed dementia like my grandmother did. We never knew she had the same genetic problem I have before she died.
I'm doing more research now on MTHFR to find out how else it messes up my body and what else I can do to fix it. I'm always cold (iron has a tough time in my body), and have severe fatigue.
If you want to find out more about what might be causing your symptoms OP maybe check out your genes or seek out an Integrative Medicine or Homeopathic doctor who treats your body as a whole and not just treats your symptoms.
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Post by flanz on May 30, 2021 23:43:17 GMT
I also don't believe trauma is inherited through our DNA. What is inherited through our DNA is our genes and sometimes we can inherit mutations on those genes that mess with our physical health. I have two mutations on my MTHFR gene that is messing with my health big time. Most doctors don't even know about this, but luckily my Integrative Doctor does. 9 years ago he gave me a blood test to test for it and it came back positive. At the time I'd been battling a 10 year battle with what was diagnosed as "resistant depression" because we'd treat it with one medication and it'd work for awhile but then stop and we'd be on to the next. I was never suicidal, I was more in a catatonic state. Eventually my psychiatrist convinced me to try electric shock therapy-don't ever do this-and it took away about 50% of my long term memories. Of course they lied and said it wouldn't. Anyway, once my Integrative Doctor found out about the MTHFR he told me that with my condition my body can't process B12 from regular vitamins or injections. I had to have a special formulation of B12. Once I started taking it my depression vanished and never returned. If it went on longer without treatment I would have developed dementia like my grandmother did. We never knew she had the same genetic problem I have before she died. I'm doing more research now on MTHFR to find out how else it messes up my body and what else I can do to fix it. I'm always cold (iron has a tough time in my body), and have severe fatigue. If you want to find out more about what might be causing your symptoms OP maybe check out your genes or seek out an Integrative Medicine or Homeopathic doctor who treats your body as a whole and not just treats your symptoms. WOW! Thanks for sharing this birukitty! All sorts of bells are going off in my head! I have struggled with depression for 18 years and my memory is horrible. I have tried twice in my life to take B12 supplements when I ate no meat products and after some length of time they made me feel sick. I don't remember now if it was nausea, headaches or what the issue was. I have never had my B12 level checked. Can you please tell me more about the special formulation of B12 that you take?
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Post by lizacreates on May 30, 2021 23:51:48 GMT
I’m not knocking this. I just don’t understand it.
How is it even biologically possible to pass on trauma through genes? Someone explain it to me like I’m five years old. Trauma experienced by someone manifested in that person’s behavior, that I can understand. That’s very common. A parent who experienced severe abuse might raise his/her children with indifference or abuse, or conversely be overprotective and smothering. So the child grows up with effects of either upbringing. That’s behavioral.
What’s the mechanism that takes the trauma experienced by an earlier generation and alters the gene of their offspring? Is it a specific chemical?
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Post by flanz on May 30, 2021 23:59:55 GMT
I’m not knocking this. I just don’t understand it. How is it even biologically possible to pass on trauma through genes? Someone explain it to me like I’m five years old. Trauma experienced by someone manifested in that person’s behavior, that I can understand. That’s very common. A parent who experienced severe abuse might raise his/her children with indifference or abuse, or conversely be overprotective and smothering. So the child grows up with effects of either upbringing. That’s behavioral. What’s the mechanism that takes the trauma experienced by an earlier generation and alters the gene of their offspring? Is it a specific chemical? I'm an no expert, just dipping my toes into learning about this... In biology, epigenetics is the study of heritable phenotype changes that do not involve alterations in the DNA sequence. The Greek prefix epi- in epigenetics implies features that are "on top of" or "in addition to" the traditional genetic basis for inheritance. (Wikipedia) Mark Wolynn and others have come to believe that severe trauma affects the genetic material of the person who has been traumatized, and that this changed genetic material is passed on to future generations.
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Post by birukitty on May 31, 2021 0:07:17 GMT
I also don't believe trauma is inherited through our DNA. What is inherited through our DNA is our genes and sometimes we can inherit mutations on those genes that mess with our physical health. I have two mutations on my MTHFR gene that is messing with my health big time. Most doctors don't even know about this, but luckily my Integrative Doctor does. 9 years ago he gave me a blood test to test for it and it came back positive. At the time I'd been battling a 10 year battle with what was diagnosed as "resistant depression" because we'd treat it with one medication and it'd work for awhile but then stop and we'd be on to the next. I was never suicidal, I was more in a catatonic state. Eventually my psychiatrist convinced me to try electric shock therapy-don't ever do this-and it took away about 50% of my long term memories. Of course they lied and said it wouldn't. Anyway, once my Integrative Doctor found out about the MTHFR he told me that with my condition my body can't process B12 from regular vitamins or injections. I had to have a special formulation of B12. Once I started taking it my depression vanished and never returned. If it went on longer without treatment I would have developed dementia like my grandmother did. We never knew she had the same genetic problem I have before she died. I'm doing more research now on MTHFR to find out how else it messes up my body and what else I can do to fix it. I'm always cold (iron has a tough time in my body), and have severe fatigue. If you want to find out more about what might be causing your symptoms OP maybe check out your genes or seek out an Integrative Medicine or Homeopathic doctor who treats your body as a whole and not just treats your symptoms. WOW! Thanks for sharing this birukitty ! All sorts of bells are going off in my head! I have struggled with depression for 18 years and my memory is horrible. I have tried twice in my life to take B12 supplements when I ate no meat products and after some length of time they made me feel sick. I don't remember now if it was nausea, headaches or what the issue was. I have never had my B12 level checked. Can you please tell me more about the special formulation of B12 that you take? Even though it is a supplement you shouldn't take it without first being diagnosed with a MTHFR mutated gene because it could really mess with your body. Getting MTHFR tested is a simple blood or cheek swab test. If your regular doctor won't do it you can find an Integrative Medicine doctor or a Homeopathic doctor. I belong to a MTHFR facebook page and they have a link to a MTHFR test that can be sent to your home. The group is called MTHFR experts if you'd like to join it. There are a lot of genes in our bodies that can have mutations. A great book to read is "Dirty Genes" by Dr. Ben Lynch. You might want to consider having a complete gene testing of your body to see what genetic mutations you might have instead of just testing for a MTHFR mutation.
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Post by flanz on May 31, 2021 0:52:41 GMT
Thanks, birukitty. Do you have a rec for getting the complete gene panel done?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 2:38:29 GMT
 One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, positive or negative. I sincerely want to hear what you have to say on the subject. I know it is a very "woo woo" idea for a great many. the book has over 4,000 reviews, 81% of them are 5 star, another 10% 4 star.busy - I just noticed that you posted this back in 2016. If you have any thoughts on the subject, please share here. I believe that it is quite possible that our parents' and grandparents' genetic material changed as a result of trauma and that my own DNA would have then been affected. to be honest, it has been VERY challenging living in this body for all of this time, highly reactive to sooo many things most people have zero issue with. For 10-12 weeks every spring and fall I need to spend almost 100% of my time indoors due to my severely debilitating allergies. We're talking sinus migraines that don't really respond to meds, and severe fatigue. Not minor annoyances. This year the spring season is dragging on longer than usual. And if it comes to an end, I still need to wear a mask if I want to be outside in our front or backyard due to 2 neighbors have jasmine in their yards. the smell gives me an instant headache. There are a great many foods I have to avoid, etc. etc. It's far from a "normal" life and yet it is much better than the hands some people are dealt. I had a great day last Saturday and Sunday Monday were decent, and then back to sleepy and feeling horrible. After months of feeling really compromised and unable to do what I want to do. It was like "the good life" being dangled in front of me and then being harshly wrenched away as if to say, "that's for other people, not for YOU." I'm definitely going to read the book and think about this more before plunking down $500 but for those of you who think that is highway robbery, around here a 45 or 55 minute session with a therapist costs $120-220 on a sliding scale fee structure. Some offer just one price, much higher than the $120. I'm thinking that at this point in my life two hours with someone whose life work is focused on this issue is an investment I'm willing to make. Again, I don't plan to even make an appointment until finishing the book. ETA: When I speak of traumas I mean horrific war related traumas, and more. Those stats don't surprise me but I guess it's no scientific study. Most of us are in physiological or psychological pain and in many cases we're confused about why we are, and how to fix it. So when a book/guru/whatever comes along that even remotely acknowledges our pain and just happens to throw out a theory that no one can definitively confirm, then a lot of people will start nodding their heads...yes, yes, THIS is the answer. It's why religion works so well. It acknowledges your pain and surrounds it with the faint promise of resolution. But thousands of dollars and wasted time later, at best it's just speculation...and at worst, a scam. You can spend the $500 to test the waters but I'm fairly confident I could sign my house over to you that it won't be the solution. At best it might nudge you a bit closer to working out some issues, but that is just the common effect of any time spent on thinking about a problem. Whether it be this book or a conversation with a 4 yr old about kindness, it might give you a temporary lift in life. Personally, I'd choose the later. Just my opinion and I don't mean any offence or judgement
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 2:50:15 GMT
Epigenetics is still a very new field and far from clearly defined. But there have been multiple studies that suggest inherited trauma is real.  One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it. PBS has a series out (all episodes are streaming on their app) about the human world/life. The first episode touched on this and how things that your grandmother did as a young person, long before you were even a thought, may have an effect on you. Your lifestyle today may effect your great grandchildren's genes. I thought it was interesting.
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Post by magellen on May 31, 2021 3:55:53 GMT
I think that some types mental illness is Inherited, but trauma no.
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Post by magellen on May 31, 2021 3:57:56 GMT
 One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it. PBS has a series out (all episodes are streaming on their app) about the human world/life. The first episode touched on this and how things that your grandmother did as a young person, long before you were even a thought, may have an effect on you. Your lifestyle today may effect your great grandchildren's genes. I thought it was interesting. There have been studies showing that poor nutrition and dental care in mother does Affect future generations. It may take up to three generations to correct the problem.
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Post by wellway on May 31, 2021 6:43:04 GMT
I'm not sure where to begin with this idea, it's certainly food for thought.
We know there are some animals and birds who are born with information from birth like those lizards who emerge from the sand on the beach with snakes waiting to pounce (thanks, Sir David). The lizards just knew to run like mad to the high cliffs. They are programmed to be on high alert from the get go unlike e.g. a newborn human.
Birds who know the flying route from Europe to Africa, even if they fall behind they still seen to know where they need to get to.
So if information like that is passed down, where is it stored, can highly unique memories(i.e. trauma, a danger to be avoided) follow the same path? Is it why some people think they have lived a past life, is it someone else's memories?
I'm intrigued but sceptical.
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Post by craftykitten on May 31, 2021 7:22:49 GMT
Women are born with all the eggs that we will ever produce, so it makes sense to me that things which happen before birth can affect our DNA. I think some things are nurture, not nature, but of course our genetics plays a huge role in who we are.
Before you start on random treatments, it would seem sensible to me to see a genetic counsellor and get a full gene panel done. If there are any known genetic markers these can be identified and treated accordingly. I do think it's important to have the counselling bit as well as the gene testing bit, because with knowledge comes power but also anxiety - I know because I've had mine done. Good luck to you!
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Post by lesserknownpea on May 31, 2021 7:31:22 GMT
I have read several books that cite the growing evidence that experiences, especially trauma affect what is passed along to the next generations. Particularly, it’s been mentioned in the case of blacks whose close and far ancestors suffered so terribly from slavery and institutional racism.
While I would have been skeptical of this idea a few years ago, I can see that as science keeps adding to the knowledge, there is so much we don’t know, and it is hubris to dismiss ideas out of hand because we don’t yet understand the whys and hows.
Only you can decide if meeting with this author, ( who I assume is a medical professional is some kind) is worth it.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 10:58:07 GMT
Even if it is true what do you do about it?
life is full to brimming with trauma and even more so perhaps a few generations back. It makes sense to me something I read that if your grandfather went through famines you may be slightly more prone to diabetes. But we all have 4 grandparents and 8 ggparents. It could add up quick.
But even if your ancestors' trauma causes your health issues how does that make it more bearable? It must be the validation that is felt... or the need to make sense of things. At that point I think it is more spiritual than scientific.
All we have to work with is our current physical and mental state. Talking out the trauma you remember personally with a licensed mental health therapist or even processing it with emdr I think can help. Believing there is a reason for your suffering and that it is related to past experiences of others should not change the efficacy of treatments in the here and now unless there is a strong psychological component that somehow resolves with validation.
Mental health treatment has come a ways but still has a long long way to go and I hope people in science and medicine develop some breakthroughs soon that really help the majority much more clearly so that snake oil starts to become less popular.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 31, 2021 12:36:54 GMT
He says he has a bachelors in psych and English and has done graduate work in English - it doesn’t look like he finished his masters though how he writes it is [intentionally?] unclear. He’s not a doctor or psychologist or degreed in a relevant field. While credentials are absolutely not the end all and be all, they are one marker of expertise.
Thousands, millions, of people jump on bandwagons to alleviate suffering or improve their lives. There’s always the next, newest thing or religion. While understandable, it doesn’t mean a person/guru/leader or program has the answer - except sometimes how to make themselves rich.
Could there be exceptions to the rule? Sure. And studies of DNA and inherited anything are fascinating and have a long way to go. But to explain inherited trauma becasue he knows something no one else knows and can then fix it in people? I’d maintain a huge, healthy skepticism.
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Post by longtimenopea on May 31, 2021 16:51:23 GMT
I read this book a while back.
I have generational trauma - my parents lost three children in an accident.
So you might imagine I had some thoughts on the book.
I 100% believe this impacted me psychologically and physiologically. I have had anxiety as a parent since the minute the stick turned pink. Not the typical parent worries, but a deep gut fear that has gotten in the way of being a present parent at times. I did some therapy work a while back to try to unenmesh myself from my child because I felt so desperately codependent toward her.
I never did work out my relationship with my parents. I have all my life felt like I never lived up to their needs or expectations. It turns out that it was in part because what I was supposed to live up to was the potential that was lost in that accident.
In the DNA? Maybe not but I am willing to let the jury be out on this one for now. An instinctive process, maybe chemical and maybe imprinted, but deeply in my person from the very beginning? Absolutely and this book was spot on in many regards for my experience. There is a lot of pain buried in my family history and I don’t have to carry it around. It is a life changing realization and the foundation of allllll the therapy work I’ve done over the years.
But I don’t think you need to go to this guy to work on it. I think if you have this kind of thing to work through, you need a good therapist and some honesty about in what’s in your family secrets.
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Post by christine58 on May 31, 2021 16:59:13 GMT
my parents lost three children in an accident. I am so sorry. That had to be a horrible loss that has impacted you also.
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Post by flanz on May 31, 2021 17:59:15 GMT
 One of my students just gave a speech on epigenetics. He cited some compelling research that supported it. PBS has a series out (all episodes are streaming on their app) about the human world/life. The first episode touched on this and how things that your grandmother did as a young person, long before you were even a thought, may have an effect on you. Your lifestyle today may effect your great grandchildren's genes. I thought it was interesting. I'm thinking they mean what was happening in our grandparents lives BEFORE the births of our parents could affect us via genetic material, right?
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