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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 10, 2021 14:52:53 GMT
She's definitely against it, but I don't think she's read it, nor do I think she defined it as I understand it from my recent research or spoke about it in a way that indicated her understanding in that video or the part 2. Obviously I didn't watch all the videos on her channel, but those in particular were dedicated to the topic. So, yes, she has the perspective that she hates it, but I worry about presenting someone as an expert with an opposing viewpoint who clearly has not studied the work. While I see your point, with that reasoning most people on this thread should not put forth opinions because most people who have posted in this thread are not experts. It's just another perspective, that is all. I understand. What I find problematic about this perspective is that it mirrors that of the vocal opponents showing up at school board meetings and attempting to pass legislation in that it is uninformed and based in emotion/opinion rather than scholarship or facts.
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 16, 2021 0:14:18 GMT
She's definitely against it, but I don't think she's read it, nor do I think she defined it as I understand it from my recent research or spoke about it in a way that indicated her understanding in that video or the part 2. Obviously I didn't watch all the videos on her channel, but those in particular were dedicated to the topic. So, yes, she has the perspective that she hates it, but I worry about presenting someone as an expert with an opposing viewpoint who clearly has not studied the work. While I see your point, with that reasoning most people on this thread should not put forth opinions because most people who have posted in this thread are not experts. It's just another perspective, that is all. Here another problem with it. In the last 3.5 months, FOX News has mentioned ‘critical race theory’ 1300 times. No one will ever be able to tell me they’re not a huge piece of what is driving this now vocal narrative. www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-has-mentioned-critical-race-theory-nearly-1300-times-past-35-months
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Post by lucyg on Jun 16, 2021 4:43:30 GMT
She's definitely against it, but I don't think she's read it, nor do I think she defined it as I understand it from my recent research or spoke about it in a way that indicated her understanding in that video or the part 2. Obviously I didn't watch all the videos on her channel, but those in particular were dedicated to the topic. So, yes, she has the perspective that she hates it, but I worry about presenting someone as an expert with an opposing viewpoint who clearly has not studied the work. While I see your point, with that reasoning most people on this thread should not put forth opinions because most people who have posted in this thread are not experts. It's just another perspective, that is all. I am not an expert on critical race theory, either. But I know enough about it (because I am capable of gaining information outside of the Fox News bubble) to understand that these people who are having fits about it really have no idea what it means.
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Post by ajsweetpea on Jun 16, 2021 15:20:25 GMT
While I see your point, with that reasoning most people on this thread should not put forth opinions because most people who have posted in this thread are not experts. It's just another perspective, that is all. Here another problem with it. In the last 3.5 months, FOX News has mentioned ‘critical race theory’ 1300 times. No one will ever be able to tell me they’re not a huge piece of what is driving this now vocal narrative. www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-has-mentioned-critical-race-theory-nearly-1300-times-past-35-monthsI was going to post the same thing about FOX. One of my friends started watching it nonstop during the pandemic and now she constantly talks about Critical Race Theory and how it’s going to be brought into all our schools and we have to watch out for it. When I went to research what it was (when she first started mentioning it), literally pages and pages of articles from FOX came up and suddenly I understood why she is so preoccupied with it.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 16, 2021 15:22:18 GMT
Check out this examination of exactly who is behind the opposition to Critical Race Theory and how they're operating. www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270794Critical race theory battle invades school boards — with help from conservative groups In towns nationwide, well-connected conservative activists, and Fox News, have ramped up the tension in fights over race and equity in schools.
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Post by finsup on Jun 16, 2021 17:37:02 GMT
Check out this examination of exactly who is behind the opposition to Critical Race Theory and how they're operating. www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270794Critical race theory battle invades school boards — with help from conservative groups In towns nationwide, well-connected conservative activists, and Fox News, have ramped up the tension in fights over race and equity in schools. That school district is very familiar to me (my kids’ school was in the same conference so they competed with them in sports) and I somehow missed this whole story. Gross. Our whole state and especially that school district is very, very white, and we could use all the diversity and inclusion education we can get.
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Post by Merge on Jun 16, 2021 17:50:32 GMT
The Texas version of the bill, just signed, goes a bit further and explicitly bans the teaching of any content that discusses white privilege or institutional racism. They don’t want white kids from big houses with nice schools to get the idea that they got there any way but through mom and dad’s hard work, you see. It might hurt their feelings.
This from the critics of “safe spaces” and “trigger warnings.”
Teaching diverse viewpoints in Texas - even in AP classes, which specifically demand that kind of critical thinking and learning - will now be an act of resistance, I guess.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 1:01:48 GMT
Here are a couple of articles in addition to the EdWeek one that may be helpful. www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/29/critical-race-theory-bans-schools/www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1001055828/the-brewing-political-battle-over-critical-race-theoryCritical Race Theory is complex. I am undereducated in it, having not read key scholars' work extensively. Not all critical race theorists agree on all aspects (thus the term "theory"). What you're probably seeing bubbling up are Republicans/conservatives having feelings about "critical race theory being taught in schools." While many schools are beginning to teach less-whitewashed versions of history, and asking students to examine the ways in which race impacts society, that is not "teaching critical race theory." And, this is my opinion: Many conservatives are big mad that white power structures are being examined, and they see that as a threat to maintaining power.Is there a specific question that you had? I can guarantee you that the vast majority are not opposed to teaching the details of racism in history. They do object to lessons being taught in which white children in the classroom or workplace training are vilified in order to teach the lesson. They object to a divisive lesson plan, that stifles free thinking and free speaking. It isn't about holding onto power. John McWhorter, a black professor, is urging parents to pull their children out of a private school that has started to teach critical race theory and he linked this letter from a teacher there: Dear Joe (copies to Head of School, Board Trustees, & English Department Colleagues), I became a teacher at Dwight-Englewood because, as a parent, I loved how the school both nurtured and challenged my own children. Today, I am resigning from a job I love because D-E has changed in ways that undermine its mission and prevent me from holding true to my conscience as an educator. I believe that D-E is failing our students. Over the past few years, the school has embraced an ideology that is damaging to our students’ intellectual and emotional growth and destroying any chance at creating a true community among our diverse population. I reject the hostile culture of conformity and fear that has taken hold of our school. The school’s ideology requires students to see themselves not as individuals, but as representatives of a group, forcing them to adopt the status of privilege or victimhood. They must locate themselves within the oppressor or oppressed group, or some intersectional middle where they must reckon with being part-oppressor and part-victim. This theory of power hierarchies is only one way of seeing the world, and yet it pervades D-E as the singular way of seeing the world. As a result, students arrive in my classroom accepting this theory as fact: People born with less melanin in their skin are oppressors, and people born with more melanin in their skin are oppressed. Men are oppressors, women are oppressed, and so on. This is the dominant and divisive ideology that is guiding our adolescent students. In my classroom, I see up close how this orthodoxy hinders students’ ability to read, write, and think. I teach students who recoil from a poem because it was written by a man. I teach students who approach texts in search of the oppressor. I teach students who see inequities in texts that have nothing to do with power. Students have internalized the message that this is the way we read and think about the world, and as a result, they fixate on power and group identity. This fixation has stunted their ability to observe and engage with the full fabric of human experience in our literature. In my professional opinion, the school is failing to encourage healthy habits of mind, essential for growth, such as intellectual curiosity, humility, honesty, reason, and the capacity to question ideas and consider multiple perspectives. In our school, the opportunity to hear competing ideas is practically non-existent. How can students, who accept a single ideology as fact, learn to practice intellectual curiosity or humility or consider a competing idea they’ve never encountered? How can students develop higher order thinking if they are limited to seeing the world only through the lens of group identity and power? Sadly, the school is leading many to become true believers and outspoken purveyors of a regressive and illiberal orthodoxy. Understandably, these students have found comfort in their moral certainty, and so they have become rigid and closed-minded, unable or unwilling to consider alternative perspectives. These young students have no idea that the school has placed ideological blinders on them. Of course, not all students are true believers. Many pretend to agree because of pressure to conform. I’ve heard from students who want to ask a question but stop for fear of offending someone. I have heard from students who don’t participate in discussions for fear of being ostracized. One student did not want to develop her personal essay — about an experience she had in another country — for fear that it might mean that she was, without even realizing it, racist. In her fear, she actually stopped herself from thinking. This is the very definition of self-censorship. I care deeply about our students and our school, and so over the years, I have tried to introduce positive and constructive alternative views. My efforts have fallen on deaf ears. In 2019, I shared with you my negative experiences among hostile and doctrinaire colleagues. You expressed dismay, but I did not hear any follow up from you or other administrators. Since then, the stifling conformity has only intensified. Last fall, two administrators informed faculty that certain viewpoints simply would not be tolerated during our new “race explicit” conversations with our new “anti-racist” work. They said that no one would be allowed to question the orthodoxy regarding “systemic racism.” The message was clear, and the faculty went silent in response. The reality is that fear pervades the faculty. On at least two separate occasions in 2017 and 2018, our Head of School, standing at the front of Hajjar Auditorium, told the entire faculty that he would fire us all if he could so that he could replace us all with people of color. This year, administrators continue to assert D-E’s policy that we are hiring “for diversity.” D-E has become a workplace that is hostile toward educators based solely on their immutable traits. During a recent faculty meeting, teachers were segregated by skin color. Teachers who had light skin were placed into a “white caucus” group and asked to “remember” that we are “White” and “to take responsibility for [our] power and privilege.” D-E’s racial segregation of educators, aimed at leading us to rethink of ourselves as oppressors, was regressive and demeaning to us as individuals with our own moral compass and human agency. Will the school force racial segregation on our students next? I reject D-E’s essentialist, racialist thinking about myself, my colleagues, and my students. As a humanist educator, I strive to create an inclusive classroom by embracing the dignity and unique personality of each and every student; I want to empower all students with the skills and habits of mind that they need to fulfill their potential as learners and human beings. Neither the color of my skin nor the “group identity” assigned to me by D-E dictates my humanist beliefs or my work as an educator. Being told that it does is offensive and wrong, and it violates my dignity as a human being. My conscience does not have a color. D-E claims that we teach students how to think, not what to think. But sadly, that is just no longer true. I hope administrators and board members awaken in time to prevent this misguided and absolutist ideology from hollowing out D-E, as it has already hollowed out so many other institutions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 4:44:24 GMT
One black man has a poor opinion of CRT. I guess that's the ballgame, then. That's how it works, right?
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 5:25:16 GMT
One black man has a poor opinion of CRT. I guess that's the ballgame, then. That's how it works, right? Without even looking for them I've seen at least a half dozen or more clips of poc and several more of teachers objecting to it. Do you need any to accept another point of view? You have teachers and poc who have not only seen the lessons but have experienced the effects, and are objecting to it. The point being that blaming it all on those racist Republicans and dumb fox watchers as the ones that are objecting to it doesn't hold much water.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 5:36:07 GMT
You have teachers and poc who have not only seen the lessons but have experienced the effects, and are objecting to it. And you have many more who are supporting it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 5:53:42 GMT
You have teachers and poc who have not only seen the lessons but have experienced the effects, and are objecting to it. And you have many more who are supporting it. I don't think so. There's a Rasmussen poll that says between those who say it will make race relations worse and those who say it won't make any difference is 60%. That looks to me like the majority aren't supporting this as effective in race relations.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 6:06:30 GMT
And you have many more who are supporting it. I don't think so. There's a Rasmussen poll that says between those who say it will make race relations worse and those who say it won't make any difference is 60%. That looks to me like the majority aren't supporting this as effective in race relations. Nice try at a sleight of hand there. 1st - link it 2nd - don't conflate "won't make any difference" w/"not supporting it". 3rd - Rasmussen. ps - you said "You have teachers and poc who have not only seen the lessons but have experienced the effects, and are objecting to it." And I said "And you have many more who are supporting it. " Meaning many more TEACHERS and POC. Not general population - who are brainwashed by Fox News and OANN to fear anything other than what mama and daddy told 'em.
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Post by pixiechick on Jun 18, 2021 6:22:56 GMT
I don't think so. There's a Rasmussen poll that says between those who say it will make race relations worse and those who say it won't make any difference is 60%. That looks to me like the majority aren't supporting this as effective in race relations. Nice try at a sleight of hand there. 1st - link it 2nd - don't conflate "won't make any difference" w/"not supporting it". 3rd - Rasmussen. ps - you said "You have teachers and poc who have not only seen the lessons but have experienced the effects, and are objecting to it." And I said "And you have many more who are supporting it. " Meaning many more TEACHERS and POC. Not general population - who are brainwashed by Fox News and OANN to fear anything other than what mama and daddy told 'em. I said, "say it won't make any difference in race relations that looks to me like the majority aren't supporting this as effective in race relations." Also if those that are objecting to it given their experience with it and seeing the effects of it, that is their experience causing their objection, not fox news.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 18, 2021 11:51:59 GMT
I don't know a single PK-12 educator actually teaching critical race theory. At all.
And I know a lot of educators.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 12:26:43 GMT
I don't know a single PK-12 educator actually teaching critical race theory. At all. Maybe cuz it's just the latest boogeyman used by the powerful to scare the ignorant and fearful?
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Post by artbabe on Jun 18, 2021 14:43:11 GMT
My school doesn't teach "critical race theory". I put that in quotes because I don't think the people who say the phrase (like Fox News) have any idea what it is.
We do focus a lot on anti-bias and diversity, though. There has been a real push for it this year. I'm on a committee at school that is working on that. I even get a stipend for going to trainings on this. We do have a few teachers that are in opposition, but those are the teachers who threw a fit when a transgender kid used the teacher's bathroom, with permission. (rolls eyes)
I got the PTA Educator of the Year award at my school partly because I teach those ideas within my lessons. I always have. That is pretty easy to do with art, however, so much of it involves race, gender, etc.
The outcry has really ramped up this summer, though, so I imagine there will be parents going after me when school starts. I was concerned last year that I would get pushback on the artists I used when BLM came to the front, but it didn't happen, luckily.
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