J u l e e
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 15, 2021 14:06:08 GMT
I want to get rid of my non stick cookware. I’ve been cooking with my current set for 20 years and they’re pretty nicked and scraped. I don’t want to know where those bits of non stick coating went!
Do I need All Clad d3 or d5?
I’m a decent cook (but far below chef level) - meaning I think I could handle the transition to non stick cookware. I really would just like a small/medium sauce pan, a soup pot, and a sauté/skillet pan. All with lids. For starters.
Is the best best place to buy All Clad at BBB with a coupon?
is there something comparable that will last me another 20 years but not poison me with flakes of coating?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 15, 2021 14:16:54 GMT
I have some of both D3 and D5. My preference is the D5, though I use both equally. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. As for other non-stick pans, perhaps a Le Creuset Signature Skillet? You get all the benefits of a cast iron skillet/non-stick skillet without the upkeep of a traditional cast iron.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 14:31:05 GMT
My sauce pan is D3 and my stock pot is D3 as well. I am looking at D5 for my next pot.
I also have a Calphalon stainless steel braiser.
For non stick, I use ceramic coated. I tried an LC skillet and killed it. I love my other LC items (braiser, Dutch ovens) but the skillet was my nemesis.
You can't go wrong with either.
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Post by caangel on Jun 15, 2021 14:34:33 GMT
I have some of both D3 and D5. My preference is the D5, though I use both equally. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. As for other non-stick pans, perhaps a Le Creuset Signature Skillet? You get all the benefits of a cast iron skillet/non-stick skillet without the upkeep of a traditional cast iron. I have this skillet (in blue) and love it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 14:41:15 GMT
caangel **GypsyGirl**How in the heck did you guys cook with it? I have been using LC for years and have several DOs and a Braiser. Love them and easy to use and clean. The skillet however, to me, was not. Any tips if I decided to try again?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 15, 2021 15:04:52 GMT
The skillet however, to me, was not. Any tips if I decided to try again? I'll be honest, it's my DD's skillet so I'll have to ask her. I'm old school with a ton of old cast iron. No matter what I tried with DD, she just couldn't (wouldn't?) take care of the cast iron properly. Finally just bought her the LC for Christmas a couple of years ago. She loves it and no issues. It's her main skillet now. She does have a couple of D5 skillets, but prefers the LC.
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 15, 2021 15:18:43 GMT
I don't have either. I have the MC2 collection, which I think is very similar to the D3 except can't be put in the dishwasher and can't be used on induction cooktops. Neither of those matter to me. They work well for me. I'm an average cook for the most part. Dh got me a set for Christmas several years ago when I asked. In hindsight, I should have just asked for a few pieces. I have since purchased a few Le Creuset pieces and those are my absolute favorite. I got the signature skillet for Christmas last year and freaking love it.
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Post by caangel on Jun 15, 2021 15:34:00 GMT
caangel **GypsyGirl**How in the heck did you guys cook with it? I have been using LC for years and have several DOs and a Braiser. Love them and easy to use and clean. The skillet however, to me, was not. Any tips if I decided to try again? What problems are you having? I am not nice to mine so it some times loses it's seasoning. We also use it as our main pan and it usually lives on the stove top. My kids make quesadillas everyday with raw tortillas. I don't really cook in it differently from any other pan except that it can go into the oven. My stove gets REALLY hot so finding the right temp is alway my challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 16:20:15 GMT
caangel **GypsyGirl**How in the heck did you guys cook with it? I have been using LC for years and have several DOs and a Braiser. Love them and easy to use and clean. The skillet however, to me, was not. Any tips if I decided to try again? What problems are you having? I am not nice to mine so it some times loses it's seasoning. We also use it as our main pan and it usually lives on the stove top. My kids make quesadillas everyday with raw tortillas. I don't really cook in it differently from any other pan except that it can go into the oven. My stove gets REALLY hot so finding the right temp is alway my challenge. So it needs to be seasoned? Maybe that was my problem. I thought LCs didn't need to be. My potatoes and eggs would stick and the eggs would form a yellow crust that was so hard to get off.
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 15, 2021 16:39:40 GMT
What problems are you having? I am not nice to mine so it some times loses it's seasoning. We also use it as our main pan and it usually lives on the stove top. My kids make quesadillas everyday with raw tortillas. I don't really cook in it differently from any other pan except that it can go into the oven. My stove gets REALLY hot so finding the right temp is alway my challenge. So it needs to be seasoned? Maybe that was my problem. I thought LCs didn't need to be. My potatoes and eggs would stick and the eggs would form a yellow crust that was so hard to get off. I have not seasoned mine. They shouldn't need it. For eggs though I do need to use plenty of Pam spray or butter. And cook low and slow for scrambled (which is how I generally do it anyway).
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Post by caangel on Jun 15, 2021 18:32:12 GMT
What problems are you having? I am not nice to mine so it some times loses it's seasoning. We also use it as our main pan and it usually lives on the stove top. My kids make quesadillas everyday with raw tortillas. I don't really cook in it differently from any other pan except that it can go into the oven. My stove gets REALLY hot so finding the right temp is alway my challenge. So it needs to be seasoned? Maybe that was my problem. I thought LCs didn't need to be. My potatoes and eggs would stick and the eggs would form a yellow crust that was so hard to get off. Not seasoned necessarily but mine does need some build up to be more nonstick. Definitely use plenty of oil/butter/fat to prevent sticking. If I use too much soap I have to working on the build up again, but it doesn't rust if I soak it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 20:32:57 GMT
I only have d5 so can't compare for you. Love mine but the larger pans are heavy (easiest is to carry them with 2 hands). My bigger set was from Macy's so was a great value over buying individually, plus came with a stainless lasagna pan (which is awesome - it is actually sized to fit lasagna noodles, unlike my 9x13 pans) and a set of good quality potholders that lasted almost 10 years with heavy use. DH gifted me a small saucepan with lid to add and paid full price for it at William-Sonoma, which I think was like $275 He had offered to take it back and give me the money to buy something else, which I didn't and we use it a ton One thing I like is my kids can also cook in the All-Clad (after drilling no cooking spray on them ever into them) and they cook a fair amount - the gross egg mess cleans out easy with a little soaking. As for something else, it seems like there is a lot out there that would last but I've never seen quality like All-Clad. I love my Le Creuset (dutch ovens) like others mentioned, although I stick to stews or braising primarily. I would need a bit of practice to use LC as a skillet - they are beautiful, though!
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J u l e e
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 15, 2021 20:42:11 GMT
Thank you for all the replies.
I moved from a gas stove to a glass top electric this past year and my current set of cookware is also not completely flat on the bottom. I think LC would scratch glass top, right? I do wonder if there’s a difference between d3 and d5 for my level of skill. I also love that sets are cheaper but I truly cook with only those three items I mentioned. I’m sort of review paralyzed right now.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 15, 2021 20:50:59 GMT
I also love that sets are cheaper but I truly cook with only those three items I mentioned. I’m sort of review paralyzed right now. Buy the three pieces you use which allows you to spend more. Then watch for sales (or hit an outlet store) and add what you need over time. That is how we built up our collection. Most people will find with sets that they rarely (if ever) use some of the pieces included. So it's really a waste of money to buy a set when some of it is just going to become clutter.
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Post by elaine on Jun 15, 2021 21:57:59 GMT
I use Cusinart Multiclad Pro Stainless Steel. It is a bit more friendly on the wallet than All Clad and has been great.
For skillets, I use lodge cast iron and I have 1 carbon steel skillet I purchased from ATK.
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Post by nurseypants on Jun 16, 2021 15:34:59 GMT
America’s Test Kitchen tested All-Clad D3 against D5 and didn’t find differences enough to justify the higher price of D5. I believe they found the increased weight of the D5 made it more difficult to use.
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Post by Kerri W on Jun 16, 2021 18:26:53 GMT
I have been very happy with the D5 All Clad I purchased in the past couple years. My intent was to only purchase a couple pans I would use most often to see if I truly loved them. Williams-Sonoma to the rescue! The salesperson who helped us was incredibly knowledgable about the differences in all of their lines and helped me choose the line that would work best for my skill level, stove, etc. It ended up being a much better deal to buy a set than to buy individual pieces.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 16, 2021 18:36:33 GMT
We don’t have any D5 so I can’t comment on that. But I’m with you, own only what you’ll use. I’d still see if buying. a set on discount is less expensive, and then after cooking for a month or two with your reduced pots and pans, donating the rest. Is your daughter getting close to moving out? If not, a women’s shelter might be a good place to donate them.
eta: Wait, I thought D5 was with the copper layer showing. How can you tell the difference between D3 and D5? Because it’s possible we have some and just don’t know it.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 17, 2021 4:44:41 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 17, 2021 10:29:50 GMT
I bought my All Clad pieces in Pittsburgh at their semi-annual factory sale. They are seconds, but you would never know. I think they are D3. They are beautiful and functional, and cost a fraction of the price. I don’t know if this sale still exists, but I highly recommend it.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 17, 2021 12:13:36 GMT
Thanks! Will check it out when I go downstairs. They’re all polished, because that’s our preference, but I don’t remember the handles.
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 17, 2021 12:55:37 GMT
This article was excellent! I think d3 fits my needs and how I cook a little better than d5. I feel so much better having read that. I’ve looked at the Cuisinart that elaine mentioned. They’re very tempting. And I like the idea of splitting a set with my daughter who will be moving off campus after this next year. So I’ve gone back and forth but I think I’ve landed on just a few pieces of d3 All Clad for now. I grab the same three pieces for everything. like that they’re made in the US. And who knows what kind of cooking Quinn will do at school. I really appreciate all the comments. Thank you all! Now I just have to make sure I have the right sizes.
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Post by elaine on Jun 17, 2021 13:14:07 GMT
This article was excellent! I think d3 fits my needs and how I cook a little better than d5. I feel so much better having read that. I’ve looked at the Cuisinart that elaine mentioned. They’re very tempting. And I like the idea of splitting a set with my daughter who will be moving off campus after this next year. So I’ve gone back and forth but I think I’ve landed on just a few pieces of d3 All Clad for now. I grab the same three pieces for everything. like that they’re made in the US. And who knows what kind of cooking Quinn will do at school. I really appreciate all the comments. Thank you all! Now I just have to make sure I have the right sizes. If I remember correctly, I think that Merge has some of the Cuisinart Multiclad Pro. It was here that I first heard about it. There are a number of peas who use it. If your daughter ends up needing more pots and pans, they are definitely a less costly set than All Clad (which is amazing stuff - enjoy!).
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Post by Merge on Jun 17, 2021 15:39:19 GMT
This article was excellent! I think d3 fits my needs and how I cook a little better than d5. I feel so much better having read that. I’ve looked at the Cuisinart that elaine mentioned. They’re very tempting. And I like the idea of splitting a set with my daughter who will be moving off campus after this next year. So I’ve gone back and forth but I think I’ve landed on just a few pieces of d3 All Clad for now. I grab the same three pieces for everything. like that they’re made in the US. And who knows what kind of cooking Quinn will do at school. I really appreciate all the comments. Thank you all! Now I just have to make sure I have the right sizes. If I remember correctly, I think that Merge has some of the Cuisinart Multiclad Pro. It was here that I first heard about it. There are a number of peas who use it. If your daughter ends up needing more pots and pans, they are definitely a less costly set than All Clad (which is amazing stuff - enjoy!). Yes, I do - highly recommend. After several years, they look brand new and they work beautifully.
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