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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 3:10:55 GMT
I'm interested in what the different places are doing so that you have proof of your covid vaccinations. Where I am (and I assume the rest of Au?...but I'm not 100% sure) We have our national health system called Medicare, when you get your vaccine you show your medicate card and the vaccine is recorded against your name. Then you can log on to the website or use the app, and there's a "digital vaccination certificate" that has all the details of your vaccine, date given etc. Mine also has my Fluvax for this year on it. I assume going forward if we need to prove that we have had both vaccines this is what we'll show. (Although it looks easy enough to fake  ) We also get the little blue card with the date of the vaccines on it, but I think that was just meant to be the reminder for the second dose and it's just paper, so it won't hold up for too long. What did you get in your country/area? Are you going to be happy to show this each time if you want to travel, go to a concert or the movies etc? |
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Post by ntsf on Jul 9, 2021 3:12:49 GMT
we got a card. I took a picture of the card, and carry a copy of it (card is with passport). I can register with the state of CA to create digital record, tied into the state record of the shot.
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Post by teddyw on Jul 9, 2021 3:19:28 GMT
I’ve just emailed the picture of my card to my employer. So far they’re the only ones who have asked.
I haven’t heard of my state creating a digital passport yet.
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Post by katlady on Jul 9, 2021 3:19:58 GMT
We (in California) got a card that is stamped with the date, location, and type of shot you got. Mine is all filled out by hand, some people I think have stickers to put on theirs. Every state uses the same card format. In California, we have a state-wide database and we are supposed to be able to access our shot record digitally so that we don't have to show the physical card. I haven't tried to look up mine yet. If your information isn't there, then you have to send them a copy of your card so they can put you in the database. There is no national database. And yes, our cards are easy to fake and people have been selling fake ones. I think the tracking of who has the vaccine is very sloppy and there should have been more organization from the top.
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Post by valincal on Jul 9, 2021 3:21:28 GMT
I was given a very unofficial piece of paper for each vaccine, hand written by the nurse. I signed up for an on-line health records account that looks much more official!
I’m not sure if Canada as a whole will be issuing cards to carry. Each province is doing their own thing right now.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 9, 2021 3:22:20 GMT
Hahahaha, no.
Our governor signed a law to prevent businesses from asking for proof of vaccine.
“ Texas businesses that require customers to be vaccinated against COVID-19 will be denied state contracts and could lose their licenses or operating permits under legislation Gov. Greg Abbott signed into law Monday.
“Texas is open 100%, and we want to make sure you have the freedom to go where you want without limits,” Abbott said before signing the law, in a video he posted Monday on Twitter. “Vaccine passports are now prohibited in the Lone Star State.” “
I have been to concerts. I have travelled to 10 different states so far this summer. I’ve been on planes, on trains, at museums, at Disney World and Universal.
Nothing here is going to require proof of vaccination.
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Post by Karene on Jul 9, 2021 3:23:31 GMT
In Ontario, I received a small print out at the vaccination centre when I received the 2nd dose. And then I received a digital certificate by email from our provincial Ministry of Health, which I can print off.
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 9, 2021 3:23:32 GMT
At the CU-AMC campus, Aurora, CO, all employees will need to show proof of vaccination via website by Sept. 1. If not vaccinated will have to wear masks and social distance. Currently, to show vaccination, stickers are given on employee badges.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 3:28:52 GMT
Nothing here is going to require proof of vaccination. I'm not necessarily saying that each business needs to do that. This came from watching Stephen Colbert a few days ago and he said that to get into the audience you had to be fully vaccinated, so I was just wondering how people proved that, and *if* it is required, how happy will people be to comply? But for example if you decide to travel to Australia, and it is a (currently hypothetical) condition of entry here that you have to provide proof that you are fully vaccinated - how would you prove that? I am assuming a hand written card isn't going to be sufficient in those situations. |
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Post by myshelly on Jul 9, 2021 3:33:24 GMT
Nothing here is going to require proof of vaccination. I'm not necessarily saying that each business needs to do that. But for example if you decide to travel to Australia, and it is a (currently hypothetical) condition of entry here that you have to provide proof that you are fully vaccinated - how would you prove that? I am assuming a hand written card isn't going to be sufficient in those situations. I was answering your second question - “Are you going to be happy to show this each time if you want to travel, go to a concert or the movies etc?” We are never going to need to show a vaccine to travel, go to a concert or the movies. I understand other countries may have other rules and that will impact which countries I do or do not travel to in the future. In answer to your first question, my husband got a little handwritten postcard. That’s it. Our governor is actively opposing and preventing the development of anything else and I’m ok with that. |
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Post by leannec on Jul 9, 2021 3:33:56 GMT
I signed up for an on-line health records account that looks much more official! Tell me more! My two flimsy pieces of paper just don't seem like enough  |
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 3:38:08 GMT
We are never going to need to show a vaccine to travel, go to a concert or the movies. I edited my comment above, I'm not looking it get into any arguments about if it should be done etc, I'm just interested in what other countries have implemented so that people can show proof if they need to and *if* it is required for an event, will individuals be happy to show that proof. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 9, 2021 3:38:35 GMT
I have my CDC card, and it’s electronically recorded on the ND Dept of Health vaccine register.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 9, 2021 3:40:17 GMT
We are never going to need to show a vaccine to travel, go to a concert or the movies. I edited my comment above, I'm not looking it get into any arguments about if it should be done etc, I'm just interested in what other countries have implemented so that people can show proof if they need to and *if* it is required for an event, will individuals be happy to show that proof. You keep asking “will individuals be happy to show that proof?” To me that question is asking for my feelings on the subject. No, I would not be happy about being asked to show proof. |
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 3:41:04 GMT
What is that? Plastic or paper? |
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 9, 2021 3:44:22 GMT
We got paper cards. I had to fill out my name and the doctor's office filled out the vaccine info (or stuck a sticker on there, depending on what office was used) and the date. Because we used our normal HMO the info automatically goes onto the medical record...
I've had a shot "out of clinic" before and it did not go on my medical record and I ended up getting it again just so they'd stop complaining I hadn't got one because they had no record of it (tetanus shot) so I'm glad that won't happen with this vaccine!
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Post by katlady on Jul 9, 2021 3:47:22 GMT
We are never going to need to show a vaccine to travel, go to a concert or the movies. I edited my comment above, I'm not looking it get into any arguments about if it should be done etc, I'm just interested in what other countries have implemented so that people can show proof if they need to and *if* it is required for an event, will individuals be happy to show that proof. That is what is so messed up in the US is that every state makes their own rules. In my county, some of the community colleges are requiring proof of being vaccinated to attend on-campus classes. You even need to show proof just to go on campus to do official business. I haven't been anywhere yet that has asked for proof. Most places/businesses are not asking. I will willingly comply if asked, but I don't know if I'll be "happy". I don't carry my card around with me, so unless I get the digital proof, I'll be out of luck if asked and I don't have the card on me. The card is also not small. It is bigger than a credit card, so it doesn't easily fit in your wallet. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 9, 2021 3:48:45 GMT
I'm not necessarily saying that each business needs to do that. But for example if you decide to travel to Australia, and it is a (currently hypothetical) condition of entry here that you have to provide proof that you are fully vaccinated - how would you prove that? I am assuming a hand written card isn't going to be sufficient in those situations. I was answering your second question - “Are you going to be happy to show this each time if you want to travel, go to a concert or the movies etc?” We are never going to need to show a vaccine to travel, go to a concert or the movies. I understand other countries may have other rules and that will impact which countries I do or do not travel to in the future. In answer to your first question, my husband got a little handwritten postcard. That’s it. Our governor is actively opposing and preventing the development of anything else and I’m ok with that. Are you sure about that? I guess you won’t be going to a show like Springsteen on Broadway? Or any other show requiring them? 🤨 www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/world/bruce-springsteen-broadway-vaccine.amp.htmlHer question is valid seeing as there are places and cruise lines here that *will* require them. |
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 3:49:37 GMT
I edited my comment above, I'm not looking it get into any arguments about if it should be done etc, I'm just interested in what other countries have implemented so that people can show proof if they need to and *if* it is required for an event, will individuals be happy to show that proof. You keep asking “will individuals be happy to show that proof?” To me that question is asking for my feelings on the subject. No, I would not be happy about being asked to show proof. Good grief, sometimes it's like pulling teeth with you, you can't seem to grasp the main point of the question and go off on tangents. Yes my question was in two parts and you answered neither in your first reply. Yes I am interested in your opinion, but prior to this you didn't give it, you just said "in our state we'll never have to" - that's an answer to a question I didn't ask. We eventually got there, but seriously you make communicating with you so hard at times. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 9, 2021 3:50:19 GMT
What is that? Plastic or paper? Dinky card stock, easily forged. I’m going to imagine if a place like Australia required proof, there is no way they’d be accepting them.  |
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Post by katlady on Jul 9, 2021 3:55:07 GMT
if a place like Australia required proof, there is no way they’d be accepting them. But they would have to wouldn't they because that is the "official" card we have, that is all we have. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 9, 2021 3:55:23 GMT
What is that? Plastic or paper? Dinky card stock, easily forged. I’m going to imagine if a place like Australia required proof, there is no way they’d be accepting them. That is pretty much what mine looked like. I got mine in a different state then my husband, I will ask to see his tomorrow to see if they are the same or not. I put mine in a plastic sleeve thing (archival safe so the writing won't stick to the plastic) and I won't mind showing it to anyone who asks. No different to me then showing ID to get into the Zoo or museums or to buy alcohol or to verify identity when at the bank. |
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Post by AmandaA on Jul 9, 2021 3:56:42 GMT
We were given cards that document each dose. Our state also managed everything through one online portal so we got a digital proof of vaccine texted to us as soon as it was entered into the system that we were fully vaccinated. The records also exist in the statewide vaccine registry that has always been used to track childhood vaccines. I would happily share this information in the spirit of public health and protecting others.
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Post by peatlejuice on Jul 9, 2021 3:57:44 GMT
I received a paper CDC card, like most Americans. I bought a plastic card protector to put it in. I've taken a picture of it and saved it on my phone for digital proof. It's currently carried in my purse since we recently traveled domestically and I wanted it on hand, but I'll likely put it into our safety deposit box at the bank the next time we have a need to get into it.
We weren't asked to show it anywhere during our travel, but I would have no problem providing it if asked. I don't really view it as being much different than being asked for ID to buy alcohol, and I will admit to thinking that the people who protest being asked for proof are being immature.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 4:01:19 GMT
I was looking at my certificate and it has my date of birth on it.
I'm OK with showing my vaccine status if needed to get in somewhere, but (and yes, I know most places won't care or even look) I don't think my date of birth/age is at all relevant.
I don't know why they think it's necessary to have a date of birth on a cert that may need to be widely shown around. I'm not sensitive about my age and will happily tell people, but I don't like my exact date of birth being so easily seen.
I was reading in some countries (but I forgot where) vaccinated people were being given QR codes and they could scan into venues etc.
That sounds like a reasonable idea.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 9, 2021 4:02:45 GMT
if a place like Australia required proof, there is no way they’d be accepting them. But they would have to wouldn't they because that is the "official" card we have, that is all we have. but that would be so easy to fake. I wonder if in the future it will be recorded on new passports? |
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Post by nlwilkins on Jul 9, 2021 4:05:59 GMT
When I was 12, we moved to Guam and were required to have certain vaccinations to go, smallpox, yellow fever to name a few. Each of us had a small booklet, similar to a passport, that recorded what shots we had and when. Every time we were vaccinated, it was added to our shot record and stamped with an official rubber stamp. We had to have them to get on the ship. Sixty years later, I still have mine.
I see no problem with adding the paperwork I was given this spring for the Covid-19 vaccination to the records of the previous records. Though, I got my covid vaccinations through the medical system that my doctors belong to and they can look in my records for proof of my vaccinations.
To me that is a much better way of proving vaccinations, the digital records. BUT I doubt anyone is being required to prove they are vaccinated. I have yet to hear any news of that.
(Junior high students are required to get a booster for some of their shots and our school nurses are in charge of checking up on that. So it should not be a new thing, or a political thing to require covid vaccinations. But it seems to be anyway.)
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Post by katlady on Jul 9, 2021 4:06:06 GMT
I was reading in some countries (but I forgot where) vaccinated people were being given QR codes and they could scan into venues etc. When you get your digital card in California you also get a QR code. I think I'll check tomorrow and see if SO and I are in the database and can get our digital card. |
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Post by cecilia on Jul 9, 2021 4:07:20 GMT
I have a card that has vaccine doses date, type, pharmacist sig, etc.
Only place that requires vaccine proof or mask is the place that hosts Wednesday Night Poetry. Not sure if the place requires it all the time or just for WNP. People have walked away due to it.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 9, 2021 4:13:26 GMT
I edited my comment above, I'm not looking it get into any arguments about if it should be done etc, I'm just interested in what other countries have implemented so that people can show proof if they need to and *if* it is required for an event, will individuals be happy to show that proof. That is what is so messed up in the US is that every state makes their own rules. In my county, some of the community colleges are requiring proof of being vaccinated to attend on-campus classes. You even need to show proof just to go on campus to do official business. I haven't been anywhere yet that has asked for proof. Most places/businesses are not asking. I will willingly comply if asked, but I don't know if I'll be "happy". I don't carry my card around with me, so unless I get the digital proof, I'll be out of luck if asked and I don't have the card on me. The card is also not small. It is bigger than a credit card, so it doesn't easily fit in your wallet. It is unbelievable that there is no nationally recognized register here that people can use to provide digital (forge proof) proof of any vaccination, if traveling or whatnot. There are places with communicable diseases that mandated vaccines before traveling there, before Covid. Even if this country (or individual states aren’t requiring them) they have no control over what other countries require, and there should be a way for those of us vaccinated to easily provide that proof in a secure manner. |
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