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Post by Merge on Aug 1, 2021 17:43:46 GMT
Too bad they refuse to learn the truth. CRT has never been addressed or taught in preschool, elementary school, middle school, high school or college. It has been addressed in LAW SCHOOL. PERIOD end of story They all have guilty consciences with their relationships with racial issues!! Yeah, for most k-12 teachers, crt= criterion referenced test. But I was told by someone on next door that ALL teachers know what critical race theory is because we all teach it. Sure, lady. Whatever. I got called a liar on another forum when I said that I’d been working in public schools/university since 1996 and had never heard of critical race theory until the right freaked out about it. It’s like they’re so deep in conspiracy theory themselves that they can’t imagine that someone is not hiding anything from them. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 2, 2021 1:47:33 GMT
Ready for the witness ..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 2, 2021 3:16:24 GMT
Just to add to the mess....
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 2, 2021 5:15:28 GMT
This was a disgusting event by a bunch of dumbass thugs who lost their minds. If they ever even had one to begin with. It was completely wrong and NEVER should have happened. How on earth they are blaming Pelosi for this? Is it Fox News finding a villain because one of their own cannot be the villain. No it was not cooked up by Fox News Link for the information only -not in any way, to defend this awful mess... From Politifact: No, Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility, but she bears some
"Responsibility for Capitol security is shared, it is not solely the responsibility of the Speaker. Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, the sergeant-at-arms of the Senate and the Capitol Police. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, Pelosi. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, then McConnell. The Capitol Police is overseen by a four-member board that includes both sergeants-at-arms. News reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics," but he said intelligence reports didn’t warrant the extra security. The chain of command for Capitol security does include Pelosi, but it does not fall solely to her... Others in the chain of command include the Senate majority leader and the Capitol police chief." |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 2, 2021 12:42:52 GMT
Nancy Pelosi is no more responsible for Jan 6 than Mitch McConnell and no one is blaming him. Both of them appoint 1 person to the Capitol Police Board with 3 voting members. www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/
As we have said, Pelosi has indirect authority over the Capitol Police Board that oversees security of the Capitol. She appoints one of three members, the House sergeant at arms, a man who was initially appointed by a Republican and who was unanimously approved by the House for nearly a decade. And holding Pelosi to that standard of accountability, McConnell would then be as culpable as Pelosi, but Republicans have made no mention of that.
And pixiechick, not surprisingly posted her spin on it. www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/‘Optics’
At the press conference on July 27, Jordan read from a Feb. 27 story in the conservative news outlet the Daily Caller: “Pelosi’s office had previously impressed upon Irving that the National Guard was to remain off Capitol Grounds, Irving allegedly told House Admin. The discussions, which centered around ‘optics,’ allegedly occurred in the months prior to the Jan. 6 riot, during a time when deployment of federal resources for civil unrest was unpopular with Democrats and many members of Congress.”
“Why were the Democrats so concerned about the optics?” Jordan asked. “It’s all driven by what happened last summer [during protests after a white police officer murdered George Floyd, a Black man], where Democrats normalized anarchy, normalized political violence, raised bail for the very rioters and looters who destroyed small businesses, attacked innocent civilians and maybe most importantly attacked police officers.”But this is speculation. There is no evidence available to the public that Pelosi had conversations with Irving about not involving the National Guard on Capitol grounds on Jan. 6, or in the months prior, due to “optics.” We asked Pelosi’s spokesman, Hammill, whether Pelosi ever had such conversations with Irving, and he said, “No.” He referred us to a series of fact-checking articles that concluded Pelosi did not stop the National Guard from deploying.
According to Sund, the “optics” concern was raised by Irving on Jan. 4. But during testimony before the Senate in February, Irving said that comment was being mischaracterized. He said the Jan. 4 request for additional National Guard troops “would have been to work traffic control near the Capitol.”
“My use of the word optics has been mischaracterized in the media,” Irving said. “Let me be clear, optics, as portrayed in the media, played no role whatsoever in my decisions about security, and any suggestion to the contrary is false. Safety was always paramount when making security plans for Jan. 6. We did discuss whether the intelligence warranted having troops at the Capitol. That was the issue. And the collective judgment at that time was no, the intelligence did not warrant that.”
Later in the hearing, Republican Sen. Josh Hawley again asked Irving if he was concerned that having the National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 “would look like it was too militarized” or about “the criticism of the guard being deployed in Washington during rioting earlier this summer–summer of 2020.”
“Senator, I was not concerned about appearance whatsoever,” Irving said. “It was all about safety and security. Any reference would have been related to appropriate use of force, display of force, and ultimately the question on the table when we look at any security asset is — does the intelligence warrant it? Does the security plan match with the intelligence? And again, the collective answer was yes.”
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 2, 2021 16:16:25 GMT
Nancy Pelosi’s own life was threatened on Jan 6. The Republican assertion that she is to blame for Jan 6 is baseless, absurd and in my opinion, sexist. Republicans have successfully stirred up their base against her and instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, they’re pointing fingers in every other direction from the Capitol police to Nancy Pelosi. www.nytimes.com/2021/07/27/us/insurrection-pelosi-claims-fact-check.htmlFor months, Republican leaders have downplayed the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. But on Tuesday, ahead of the first hearing of a special committee to investigate the riot, they took their approach to new and misleading extremes, falsely blaming Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the violence. “The American people deserve to know the truth that Nancy Pelosi bears responsibility as speaker of the House for the tragedy that occurred on Jan. 6,” said Representative Elise Stefanik, Republican of New York and the party’s No. 3 leader. It amounted to an audacious attempt to rewrite the history of the worst attack on the Capitol in two centuries and pre-empt the damning testimony of four police officers who were brutalized by the mob of Donald J. Trump’s supporters. Here’s how Republicans twisted the facts. Pelosi is not responsible for securing the Capitol. Looking past the motivations of the mob or Mr. Trump, Republicans said it had been up to Ms. Pelosi and her leadership team to protect the Capitol from the attack, particularly given that intelligence gathered in the weeks before it occurred pointed to the potential for violence against Congress. “On Jan. 6, these brave officers were put into a vulnerable, impossible position because the leadership at the top has failed,” said Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader. Ms. Pelosi has considerable influence as the speaker, but she is not responsible for the security of Congress. That is the job of the Capitol Police, an agency Ms. Pelosi only indirectly influences. Most decisions about securing the Capitol are made by the Capitol Police Board, a body that consists of the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms and the Architect of the Capitol. Ms. Pelosi shares control of the Capitol with the Senate majority leader, who at the time was Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky. Republicans have made no attempt to blame Mr. McConnell for the security breach or for failing to prepare for attack.That charge also contradicts a bipartisan report produced by a pair of Senate committees that found evidence of systematic failures across American intelligence, military and law enforcement agencies, which misjudged the threat leading up to Jan. 6 and were not properly trained to respond to it. It also flatly contradicted congressional testimony, news reports and public accounts of that day, when Ms. Pelosi herself was one of the prime targets of the rioters, some of whom stalked the halls of the Capitol chanting ominously, “Nancy…Where are you Pelosi does not control National Guard requests for the Capitol. Mr. McCarthy and others said that Ms. Pelosi had refused pleas by the Capitol Police to provide backup, like the National Guard, ahead of Jan. 6. But the speaker of the House does not control the National Guard. And while Congress could have requested support in advance, that decision lies with the Capitol Police Board, not the speaker. Members of the Capitol Police board have provided conflicting accounts of a debate that occurred on Jan. 4 over whether to request the help in advance. Steven A. Sund, then the chief of Capitol Police, has said he asked the board for the pre-emptive assistance but was rebuffed. Among the reasons cited, Mr. Sund said, was a concern by the House sergeant-at-arms, Paul D. Irving, about the “optics” of bringing in reinforcements. Ms. Stefanik falsely attributed that concern to Ms. Pelosi, whose aides have said she only learned of the request days later. A Times investigation detailed why it took nearly two hours to approve the deployment on Jan 6. After rioters breached the Capitol, Chief Sund called Mr. Irving at 1:09 p.m. with an urgent request for the National Guard. Mr. Irving approached Ms. Pelosi’s staff with the request at 1:40 p.m., and her chief of staff relayed it to her at 1:43 p.m., when she approved it. But it would be hours more before Pentagon officials signed off on the deployment and informed the District of Columbia National Guard commander that he had permission to deploy the troops. Pelosi was not briefed about warning signs before the attack. Republicans repeatedly said that Ms. Pelosi had been warned as early as mid-December that demonstrations were being planned for Jan. 6 around Congress’s joint session to count the electoral votes. That appeared to be a reference to early intelligence reports and warnings that began to circulate inside the Capitol Police on Dec. 14, which were evidently never shared widely enough to be acted But Ms. Pelosi’s aides say she was not briefed at the time about the threat, and the Senate’s joint report found that the warning signs were mixed at best until just days before the attack. Senators — Republicans and Democrats alike — instead said the blame was with the Capitol Police and intelligence agencies for failing to properly assess and warn about the threats. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 2, 2021 18:08:01 GMT
To whomever, they are briefed now!!!!
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 2, 2021 22:17:14 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 2, 2021 22:25:03 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 2, 2021 22:59:53 GMT
Yeah, for most k-12 teachers, crt= criterion referenced test. But I was told by someone on next door that ALL teachers know what critical race theory is because we all teach it. Sure, lady. Whatever. I got called a liar on another forum when I said that I’d been working in public schools/university since 1996 and had never heard of critical race theory until the right freaked out about it. It’s like they’re so deep in conspiracy theory themselves that they can’t imagine that someone is not hiding anything from them. They have now expanded the definition of what CRT means to them. americarenewing.com/issues/list-critical-race-theory-buzzwords/?fbclid=IwAR3aRlO_GoumJinnQwUPEDZ4p43Z0rZlrqxr-W_NvecEOjkJFO4VihqG-9k |
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Post by Jili on Aug 2, 2021 23:31:30 GMT
Social Emotional Learning? We’re all doomed. We schedule this each week. We teach things like how to work in groups, how to manage frustration, how to give compliments, etc. We plan cross-grade activities in order for the students to meet new people and work on creative tasks together. I had no idea that was such a bad thing. Unbelievable. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 2, 2021 23:41:27 GMT
Social Emotional Learning? We’re all doomed. We schedule this each week. We teach things like how to work in groups, how to manage frustration, how to give compliments, etc. We plan cross-grade activities in order for the students to meet new people and work on creative tasks together. I had no idea that was such a bad thing. Unbelievable. Yep. There is a group in my town that is working to dismantle the school board. We had an equity audit that does appear to be poorly done, but the resulting formation of a group that has been influenced by larger entities is tearing up the community. There is an Anti-CRT toolkit that they are using. Demanding that signage in support or BLM, LGBTQ, etc be removed. Changing the curriculum and not allowing Dear Martin to be read. They want cameras in the classroom to ensure that teachers aren't trying to "indoctrinate" students, and for there to be "Classroom incident report" system where students can report teachers that discuss any form of equity, diversity or inclusion using those words listed in the previous link. Also including are creating teams that would create penalties for teachers that violate their policies, including 30 day suspension for the entire school from athletics and academic activities (I don't really understand that one); staff violation would requite a 30 day leave without pay for first offense, termination on second offense. Sounds like a good school environment, right? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 2, 2021 23:58:34 GMT
Social Emotional Learning? We’re all doomed. We schedule this each week. We teach things like how to work in groups, how to manage frustration, how to give compliments, etc. We plan cross-grade activities in order for the students to meet new people and work on creative tasks together. I had no idea that was such a bad thing. Unbelievable. Yep. There is a group in my town that is working to dismantle the school board. We had an equity audit that does appear to be poorly done, but the resulting formation of a group that has been influenced by larger entities is tearing up the community. There is an Anti-CRT toolkit that they are using. Demanding that signage in support or BLM, LGBTQ, etc be removed. Changing the curriculum and not allowing Dear Martin to be read. They want cameras in the classroom to ensure that teachers aren't trying to "indoctrinate" students, and for there to be "Classroom incident report" system where students can report teachers that discuss any form of equity, diversity or inclusion using those words listed in the previous link. Also including are creating teams that would create penalties for teachers that violate their policies, including 30 day suspension for the entire school from athletics and academic activities (I don't really understand that one); staff violation would requite a 30 day leave without pay for first offense, termination on second offense. Sounds like a good school environment, right? Conservatives are trying to take over school boards all across the country. They really, really want to control the curriculum. ETA: Beware. They are doing the same thing with school boards that they did with state legislatures. They are taking over-if they can. This is very serious. |
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Post by Jili on Aug 3, 2021 0:12:32 GMT
Yep. There is a group in my town that is working to dismantle the school board. We had an equity audit that does appear to be poorly done, but the resulting formation of a group that has been influenced by larger entities is tearing up the community. There is an Anti-CRT toolkit that they are using. Demanding that signage in support or BLM, LGBTQ, etc be removed. Changing the curriculum and not allowing Dear Martin to be read. They want cameras in the classroom to ensure that teachers aren't trying to "indoctrinate" students, and for there to be "Classroom incident report" system where students can report teachers that discuss any form of equity, diversity or inclusion using those words listed in the previous link. Also including are creating teams that would create penalties for teachers that violate their policies, including 30 day suspension for the entire school from athletics and academic activities (I don't really understand that one); staff violation would requite a 30 day leave without pay for first offense, termination on second offense. Sounds like a good school environment, right? Conservatives are trying to take over school boards all across the country. They really, really want to control the curriculum. ETA: Beware. They are doing the same thing with school boards that they did with state legislatures. They are taking over-if they can. This is very serious. They’re trying to get in on library boards, too. There’s a suburb in the Chicago area (Niles) where this is happening as we speak. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 3, 2021 0:14:13 GMT
And pixiechick, not surprisingly posted her spin on it. Sorry, no. That is a direct quote and title from the left of center Politifact. No spin from me at all. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 3, 2021 0:16:34 GMT
Well, of course. These people get to have their own facts and definitions without reference to truth. I didn't get further than social emotional learning somehow being CRT. You know, SEL, which we incorporate into lessons now because parents send their kids to school with a "me first" attitude and no notion that they can or should manage their emotional responses at an age appropriate level. Just like their vaunted leader. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 3, 2021 2:20:22 GMT
And pixiechick, not surprisingly posted her spin on it. Sorry, no. That is a direct quote and title from the left of center Politifact. No spin from me at all. Cherry picking is spin. Here is the full complete article. And again, if Pelosi is responsible, why are the Republicans not pointing fingers at McConnell who had the same role of security on Jan 6? Your post also conveniently left out this important point - the House Sergeant at arms was initially appointed by a Republican. www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/As we have said, Pelosi has indirect authority over the Capitol Police Board that oversees security of the Capitol. She appoints one of three members, the House sergeant at arms, a man who was initially appointed by a Republican and who was unanimously approved by the House for nearly a decade. And holding Pelosi to that standard of accountability, McConnell would then be as culpable as Pelosi, but Republicans have made no mention of that.www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook claiming that one person was to blame: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. One widely shared post claimed in all capital letters: "ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CAPITOL ON 6 JANUARY — ‘NANCY PELOSI’ — SECURITY AT THE CAPITOL IS HER JOB!!!" The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House." The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.Responsibility for Capitol security shared Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell. Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society. The Jan. 6 attack On Jan. 6, a joint session of Congress was held in the House chamber to officially count the electoral votes from the 2020 presidential election. The proceedings were interrupted by a mob protesting the election results that showed Joe Biden winning over then-President Donald Trump. The attack left five people dead, including a Capitol Police officer, whose death the following day is still under investigation. Former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resigned after the attack, as did former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger and Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund. Irving told Sund ahead of the riot that he did not want National Guard troops at the Capitol on Jan. 6 because of bad "optics," the Washington Post and the New York Times reported. In Feb. 23 testimony before lawmakers, Irving said that "optics" did not play a role in his decision. He said he, Stenger and Sund agreed the intelligence they received didn't warrant the troops. The Times reported that at 1:09 p.m. on the day of the attack, minutes after protesters had burst through the barricades and began using the steel debris to assault the officers, Sund asked Irving for help from the National Guard. Irving called Sund back an hour later and said congressional leaders had approved the request; the article does not identify the leaders. But another hour passed before Defense Secretary Christopher Miller gave final approval to the request. In his testimony, Irving said he didn’t recall receiving a call from Sund until shortly before 2 p.m. Sund testified that the call was made shortly after 1 p.m. The delay in deploying the National Guard was caused by communication breakdowns, inaction and confusion over who had authority to call for the National Guard, the Times analysis found. Pelosi called for an independent 9/11-type commission to review and investigate the Capitol attack. She also tapped retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré to investigate security failures that day. McConnell has blasted Pelosi’s proposal as "partisan by design." Our ruling A widely shared Facebook post claimed that only Pelosi is "responsible for what happened at the Capitol" on Jan. 6, "security at the Capitol is her job." Responsibility for Capitol security is shared, it is not solely the responsibility of the Speaker. Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, the sergeant-at-arms of the Senate and the Capitol Police. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, Pelosi. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, then McConnell. The Capitol Police is overseen by a four-member board that includes both sergeants-at-arms. News reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics," but he said intelligence reports didn’t warrant the extra security. The chain of command for Capitol security does include Pelosi, but it does not fall solely to her as this post claims. Others in the chain of command include the Senate majority leader and the Capitol police chief. We rate the claim Mostly False. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 3, 2021 2:35:10 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 3, 2021 2:44:08 GMT
Sorry, no. That is a direct quote and title from the left of center Politifact. No spin from me at all. Cherry picking is spin. Here is the full complete article. And again, if Pelosi is responsible, why are the Republicans not pointing fingers at McConnell who had the same role of security on Jan 6? Your post also conveniently left out this important point - the House Sergeant at arms was initially appointed by a Republican. www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/As we have said, Pelosi has indirect authority over the Capitol Police Board that oversees security of the Capitol. She appoints one of three members, the House sergeant at arms, a man who was initially appointed by a Republican and who was unanimously approved by the House for nearly a decade. And holding Pelosi to that standard of accountability, McConnell would then be as culpable as Pelosi, but Republicans have made no mention of that.www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook claiming that one person was to blame: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. One widely shared post claimed in all capital letters: "ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CAPITOL ON 6 JANUARY — ‘NANCY PELOSI’ — SECURITY AT THE CAPITOL IS HER JOB!!!" The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House." The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.Responsibility for Capitol security shared Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell. Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society. The Jan. 6 attack On Jan. 6, a joint session of Congress was held in the House chamber to officially count the electoral votes from the 2020 presidential election. The proceedings were interrupted by a mob protesting the election results that showed Joe Biden winning over then-President Donald Trump. The attack left five people dead, including a Capitol Police officer, whose death the following day is still under investigation. Former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resigned after the attack, as did former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger and Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund. Irving told Sund ahead of the riot that he did not want National Guard troops at the Capitol on Jan. 6 because of bad "optics," the Washington Post and the New York Times reported. In Feb. 23 testimony before lawmakers, Irving said that "optics" did not play a role in his decision. He said he, Stenger and Sund agreed the intelligence they received didn't warrant the troops. The Times reported that at 1:09 p.m. on the day of the attack, minutes after protesters had burst through the barricades and began using the steel debris to assault the officers, Sund asked Irving for help from the National Guard. Irving called Sund back an hour later and said congressional leaders had approved the request; the article does not identify the leaders. But another hour passed before Defense Secretary Christopher Miller gave final approval to the request. In his testimony, Irving said he didn’t recall receiving a call from Sund until shortly before 2 p.m. Sund testified that the call was made shortly after 1 p.m. The delay in deploying the National Guard was caused by communication breakdowns, inaction and confusion over who had authority to call for the National Guard, the Times analysis found. Pelosi called for an independent 9/11-type commission to review and investigate the Capitol attack. She also tapped retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré to investigate security failures that day. McConnell has blasted Pelosi’s proposal as "partisan by design." Our ruling A widely shared Facebook post claimed that only Pelosi is "responsible for what happened at the Capitol" on Jan. 6, "security at the Capitol is her job." Responsibility for Capitol security is shared, it is not solely the responsibility of the Speaker. Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, the sergeant-at-arms of the Senate and the Capitol Police. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, Pelosi. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, then McConnell. The Capitol Police is overseen by a four-member board that includes both sergeants-at-arms. News reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics," but he said intelligence reports didn’t warrant the extra security. The chain of command for Capitol security does include Pelosi, but it does not fall solely to her as this post claims. Others in the chain of command include the Senate majority leader and the Capitol police chief. We rate the claim Mostly False. I answered this question with an answer from a very left leaning site. How on earth they are blaming Pelosi for this? I gave their synopsis of their article titled OUR RULING. That's not cherry picking or spin. 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Post by Merge on Aug 3, 2021 3:00:50 GMT
Cherry picking is spin. Here is the full complete article. And again, if Pelosi is responsible, why are the Republicans not pointing fingers at McConnell who had the same role of security on Jan 6? Your post also conveniently left out this important point - the House Sergeant at arms was initially appointed by a Republican. www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/As we have said, Pelosi has indirect authority over the Capitol Police Board that oversees security of the Capitol. She appoints one of three members, the House sergeant at arms, a man who was initially appointed by a Republican and who was unanimously approved by the House for nearly a decade. And holding Pelosi to that standard of accountability, McConnell would then be as culpable as Pelosi, but Republicans have made no mention of that.www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook claiming that one person was to blame: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. One widely shared post claimed in all capital letters: "ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CAPITOL ON 6 JANUARY — ‘NANCY PELOSI’ — SECURITY AT THE CAPITOL IS HER JOB!!!" The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) The post echoes the sentiment in a Feb. 15 letter to Pelosi from four top GOP House members. It suggested the California Democrat was at least partly at fault, asserting that "the Speaker is responsible for all operational decisions made within the House." The post is wrong: Security at the 1.5 million-square-foot U.S. Capitol building does not fall solely to the speaker. Though Pelosi does have a role in the hierarchy overseeing security, there is no indication she controls its day-to-day operations.Responsibility for Capitol security shared Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell. Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms, said Jane Campbell, president and CEO of the United States Capitol Historical Society. The Jan. 6 attack On Jan. 6, a joint session of Congress was held in the House chamber to officially count the electoral votes from the 2020 presidential election. The proceedings were interrupted by a mob protesting the election results that showed Joe Biden winning over then-President Donald Trump. The attack left five people dead, including a Capitol Police officer, whose death the following day is still under investigation. Former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resigned after the attack, as did former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger and Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund. Irving told Sund ahead of the riot that he did not want National Guard troops at the Capitol on Jan. 6 because of bad "optics," the Washington Post and the New York Times reported. In Feb. 23 testimony before lawmakers, Irving said that "optics" did not play a role in his decision. He said he, Stenger and Sund agreed the intelligence they received didn't warrant the troops. The Times reported that at 1:09 p.m. on the day of the attack, minutes after protesters had burst through the barricades and began using the steel debris to assault the officers, Sund asked Irving for help from the National Guard. Irving called Sund back an hour later and said congressional leaders had approved the request; the article does not identify the leaders. But another hour passed before Defense Secretary Christopher Miller gave final approval to the request. In his testimony, Irving said he didn’t recall receiving a call from Sund until shortly before 2 p.m. Sund testified that the call was made shortly after 1 p.m. The delay in deploying the National Guard was caused by communication breakdowns, inaction and confusion over who had authority to call for the National Guard, the Times analysis found. Pelosi called for an independent 9/11-type commission to review and investigate the Capitol attack. She also tapped retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré to investigate security failures that day. McConnell has blasted Pelosi’s proposal as "partisan by design." Our ruling A widely shared Facebook post claimed that only Pelosi is "responsible for what happened at the Capitol" on Jan. 6, "security at the Capitol is her job." Responsibility for Capitol security is shared, it is not solely the responsibility of the Speaker. Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, the sergeant-at-arms of the Senate and the Capitol Police. The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, Pelosi. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, then McConnell. The Capitol Police is overseen by a four-member board that includes both sergeants-at-arms. News reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of "optics," but he said intelligence reports didn’t warrant the extra security. The chain of command for Capitol security does include Pelosi, but it does not fall solely to her as this post claims. Others in the chain of command include the Senate majority leader and the Capitol police chief. We rate the claim Mostly False. I answered this question with an answer from a very left leaning site. How on earth they are blaming Pelosi for this? I gave their synopsis of their article titled OUR RULING. That's not cherry picking or spin. Don't like their own synopsis of their own article? Take it up with them. How is nonpartisan Politifact left-leaning? Are you confusing it with Politico? (Which is also more center-left, not *very* left-leaning, but whatever.) |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 3, 2021 5:58:00 GMT
Well, of course. These people get to have their own facts and definitions without reference to truth. I didn't get further than social emotional learning somehow being CRT. You know, SEL, which we incorporate into lessons now because parents send their kids to school with a "me first" attitude and no notion that they can or should manage their emotional responses at an age appropriate level. Just like their vaunted leader. Well, of course. These people get to have their own facts and definitions without reference to truth. Which people exactly? Here's just a few times when "those OTHER people get to have their own facts and definitions without reference to truth". "It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is." Loretta Lynch "don't call Hillary's investigation and 'investigation' use the word 'matter' instead" court packing infrastructure "crisis" at the border is corrected to "challenge" Kids at the border facilities under Obama, those same structures became "kids in cages" when Trump took office, and miraculously those same structures became facilities once again, when Biden took office. "Sexual preference" a term which has been used by everyone for a very long time (including the people that admonished her for it), suddenly became a homophobic slur the second Amy Coney Barrett says it in response to a question about legal protections for LGBT during her confirmation. Right after she used the term, Merriam-Webster updated its definition of “preference” to include that it may be “offensive.” |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 3, 2021 5:59:20 GMT
I answered this question with an answer from a very left leaning site. I gave their synopsis of their article titled OUR RULING. That's not cherry picking or spin. Don't like their own synopsis of their own article? Take it up with them. How is nonpartisan Politifact left-leaning? Are you confusing it with Politico? (Which is also more center-left, not *very* left-leaning, but whatever.) Okay, I could leave out the word very, but that's kind of nitpicky, but whatever.  No I'm not confusing it. Here and here is where I check on that kind of thing. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 3, 2021 7:53:15 GMT
I answered this question with an answer from a very left leaning site. I gave their synopsis of their article titled OUR RULING. That's not cherry picking or spin. Don't like their own synopsis of their own article? Take it up with them. Ok, if Nancy Pelosi was partly responsible for Jan 6, what was Mitch McConnell’s role? This is a perfect example of a double standard that you love to accuse the left of. If Nancy Pelosi is partly responsible, then so is Mitch McConnell, they have equal roles as far as security. Also, the irony of you accusing someone else of being nit picky. I guess it’s OK for the right to be nit picky and have double standards. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 3, 2021 9:32:45 GMT
I answered this question with an answer from a very left leaning site. I gave their synopsis of their article titled OUR RULING. That's not cherry picking or spin. Don't like their own synopsis of their own article? Take it up with them. Ok, if Nancy Pelosi was partly responsible for Jan 6, what was Mitch McConnell’s role? This is a perfect example of a double standard that you love to accuse the left of. If Nancy Pelosi is partly responsible, then so is Mitch McConnell, they have equal roles as far as security. I agree with you here. So no double standard from me. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 3, 2021 10:26:28 GMT
Social Emotional Learning? We’re all doomed. We schedule this each week. We teach things like how to work in groups, how to manage frustration, how to give compliments, etc. We plan cross-grade activities in order for the students to meet new people and work on creative tasks together. I had no idea that was such a bad thing. Unbelievable. Yep. There is a group in my town that is working to dismantle the school board. We had an equity audit that does appear to be poorly done, but the resulting formation of a group that has been influenced by larger entities is tearing up the community. There is an Anti-CRT toolkit that they are using. Demanding that signage in support or BLM, LGBTQ, etc be removed. Changing the curriculum and not allowing Dear Martin to be read. They want cameras in the classroom to ensure that teachers aren't trying to "indoctrinate" students, and for there to be "Classroom incident report" system where students can report teachers that discuss any form of equity, diversity or inclusion using those words listed in the previous link. Also including are creating teams that would create penalties for teachers that violate their policies, including 30 day suspension for the entire school from athletics and academic activities (I don't really understand that one); staff violation would requite a 30 day leave without pay for first offense, termination on second offense. Sounds like a good school environment, right? Who’s forcing who to bend to the will of their beliefs!! Good god that’s crazy!!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 3, 2021 17:10:42 GMT
Former will not stop, challenge, prevent, sue to keep six DOJ employees from appearing at the Jan 6th Select Committee hearings. Trump's attorney, former Georgia Republican Congressman Doug Collins, sent letters to six DOJ officials on Monday informing them of the decision. **** In his letter to the DOJ officials, Trump's attorney Collins slammed the DOJ's decision, saying the Biden administration should have first consulted with Trump before waving executive privilege. Collins also said while Trump will not attempt to block their testimony outright, he may take undisclosed legal action if congressional investigators seek "privileged information" related to his administration. www.rawstory.com/doj-officials-trump/We know DOJ says no executive privilege so we'll see how that goes..it was all about the election not his job!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 4, 2021 6:29:15 GMT
More inciters.. Republican Attorney General Association. On Tuesday, Axios reported that the Republican Attorneys General Association, the national group dedicated to electing Republicans to lead state law enforcement agencies around the country, has taken a massive hit to its donations after its ties to Capitol rioters were exposed. *** A report immediately after the attack revealed that RAGA's fundraising arm, the Rule of Law Defense Fund, paid for a robocall urging Trump supporters to go to the Capitol earlier in the day, saying, "At 1 p.m., we will march to the Capitol building and call on Congress to stop the steal. We are hoping patriots like you will join us to continue to fight to protect the integrity of our elections."www.rawstory.com/republican-attorneys-general-association-2654424662/ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 4, 2021 17:34:06 GMT
Rep ELECT Boebert did in fact take family and friends on a tour of the Capitol Dec 12, 2020, 3 weeks before the insurrection Jan 6th. There are pictures and possible video. Only sitting members with an authorized Capitol guide are allowed to conduct tours during weekdays (9-3?). There was no sitting member or official guide there that Saturday Night when a maskless Capitol police officer took her group on the tour. They even had an exclusive tour up into the dome over the Rotunda!! There is a picture of that. She was at the Ellipse at 8:30am Jan 6th and was quoted as saying that this is 1776... In the video at the Ellipse Ali Alexander is standing directly behind Bobert.. On the night of Dec. 12, 2020, the day of the first Stop the Steal rally in Washington and three weeks ahead of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, several guests of then-Rep.-elect Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., received an exclusive after-hours tour of the Capitol building from the far-right firebrand. There are several unanswered questions about this visit, which appears to have violated normal Capitol protocol in various ways. It's not clear who authorized it, since Boebert was not yet a member of Congress and had no official standing in D.C. It's perhaps even stranger that it occurred on a Saturday night, when the Capitol complex is closed. Later, in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 attack, Boebert repeatedly denied rumors that she had offered "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters shortly before that event. But her ambiguous comments appeared to avoid any specific discussion of this unexplained December tour. *** Her choice of words was notably specific, and potentially significant: "I haven't given a tour of the U.S. Capitol in the 117th Congress to anyone but family," she said, specifically not addressing the unauthorized tour she seems to have given during the 116th Congress. www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-capitol-tour-2654434092/ETA: Ali Alexander, Alex Jones, Roger Stone, Nick Fuentes.. familiar names all. Remember just recently Fuentes helped/attended a rally wi Rep Paul Gosar.. not a nice group! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2021 4:12:53 GMT
Warning!?!? This to protest the "political prisoners' being held who have been arrested and held after Jan 6th. Braynard on Bannon's radio show.. The protest, “Justice for J6,” has been set for Sept. 18 at the Capitol. It’s being orchestrated by the group Look Ahead America, headed by Braynard. “As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard told Bannon. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.” Despite multiple dramatic videos of scenes to the contrary, Braynard told Bannon the crowd that day was “largely peaceful” — and simply “egged on in many cases by the Capitol Police.” *** Braynard promised that “high-profile” speakers including members of Congress would attend the rally. He declined to reveal their identities to HuffPost until “confirmed.” m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_610c5c6be4b05f8157079a71 |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2021 16:35:10 GMT
More on Boebert your... A maskless Capitol Police officer accompanied Boebert's mother and teenage son to the observation deck at the top of the Capitol Dome for a photo taken by a fourth person, presumably Boebert herself...... *** It would seem reasonable to conclude that Boebert's extraordinary family tour must have been approved by a high-level government official, either in Congress or the Trump White House, but no evidence of that has emerged to this point. Salon has been unable to confirm the identity of the police officer seen in Boebert's family photo, and the Capitol Police have not responded to numerous requests. *** In a subsequent Wednesday evening interview with Salon, Boebert admitted that she had in fact led the Dec. 12 tour, but without explaining the circumstances. www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-says-her-late-night-capitol-mystery-tour-was-totally-legit-except-it-wasn-t/ |
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