Anyone following the Olympic women's gymnastics?

I was annoyed with the two person rule too.

Jade far out-performed Chiles. I’d like to see her take the team spot.

Jordan was uncharacteristically off. She normally doesn't make errors which is why she was picked. I am hoping it was just nerves, I am biased however as she is a former student of mine!

I did not understand the Jade Carey scoring on beam at all - I am absolutely no expert, so if someone more knowledgeable can expand I'd appreciate it. I think she should have been going for the all around instead of Sunisa. Simone was really all over the place last night. She has all the power, but definitely was not showing the control we're used to from her. I actually think the US team in general needs to work more on the execution. I know gymnastics has just become more and more "athletic" where the giant tumbling passes is all that anyone cares about, but I think the Russians will beat them if they can't figure out they need to at least point their toes.

I think Jordan's lack of international experience got to her.  Hopefully she is able to regroup and put prelims behind her and perform like she has most of this year.

It'll be interesting to see how Tom decides to let her compete.  Unlike prelims, finals is 3 gymnasts per event and all 3 scores count.  I can see him maybe putting her in on floor and vault but we'll see.

Just putting this out there also - I think Mykayla Skinner should have been on the team of 4 over Grace McCallum.  I really like both ladies but MyKayla clearly hadn't peaked at Trials and had the potential to get better scores in Tokyo than Grace, which is exactly what happened in prelims the other night. Both MyKayla and Jade outscored Jordan and Grace.  Jade should have been on the team as well but when she decided to qualify as an individual she felt obligated to take that spot and not try for a team spot, thus ensuring another USA woman would have the chance to go to the Olympics.  If she didn't take the individual spot the US wouldn't have been allowed to fill it with another gymnast.

Also, I really dislike the two-athletes-per-country rule for individual medals.  The best should be allowed to compete period.

yeah, not having the flag or anthem doesn't seem to be a big hit, but the athletes competing were not part of the scandal, so I don't really want to ban them.

The track and field athletes, which were the origins of the ban, have a limit on the number who cam compete. Last I knew, only 10 Russians could compete in track and field events and they had strict testing protocols leading up to and during the games.

I remember hearing more about this when I was a child.  I think China did it as well, right?  Do these countries still do this?

On another note, I loved Germany's uniforms and their statement that women should wear whatever they are comfortable in.

Not only did I think Jade Carey's score was way to low, I thought Simone Biles scores on the vault and beam were way too high. I really like her but part of being a good gymnast is learning how to control the power as well as being an acrobat.

I thought Jade Carey did better on the beam mostly because she stuck the landing. And actually on the vault as well. She did the same two vaults as Biles - and did them well - AND she stuck the landing which Simone did not, by a long shot.

I think the judges were biased because they like Simone, and scored everyone else lower than they should have because of that.

I listen to a weekly gymnastics podcast. Right now they’re broadcasting every day from Tokyo. One of their enduring mantras is “Don’t believe everything (sometimes anything) NBC tells you!”

In the case of Jade Carey’s beam score, they believe NBC is driving the “Jade Carey’s beam score was mystifyingly low!” narrative. Her score was just a couple tenths lower than how she typically scores domestically (domestic scores are usually inflated). Her deductions, like most confounding beam deductions, probably have to do with dance elements. Each of those deductions is 3/10s and they can add (subtract) up. Jade got great scores for her specialties, vault and floor, and those are the finals she’s in. Actually, I think she’s in one more final than expected.

(The real sin is that Carey and Skinner, who share the same specialities, were forced into the “two per country” situation because of team selection. It could have been avoided.)

More useless knowledge: The two per country rule used to be the three per country rule. And team event used to have SEVEN members, then six, then five, now four. And more members got chances to compete, as the lowest score was dropped. Now, it’s “three up; three count,” which means the four members in the team event can’t even all compete on each apparatus. Reasons for continually limiting participation rules: TV time and judge fatigue. 

Thank you foe the info about the team event and number of participants. I hate that gymnastics has turned into a super quick event… I remember watching an entire evening of gymnastics when I was a kid! The men barely got an hour of air time last night and expect the women to get the same amount of air time tonight during NBC prime time. :/