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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 30, 2021 21:48:47 GMT
Fined $20,000 each. Could be $750,000 and jail!! Canada has fined two Americans for providing counterfeit fake vaccination documents and lying about being tested before traveling, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reports. The Public Health Agency of Canada says the travelers also didn't comply with requirements to stay at a government authorized hotel or to get tested upon arrival," the outlet reported. "Canada eased quarantine requirements on July 5 for fully vaccinated Canadians and foreign nationals with an exemption to enter the country, but they must upload their proof of vaccination documents to the ArriveCAN app before entry." Each traveler was fined a total of $19,720, though the Public Health Agency of Canada noted the two could've been fined $750,000 and sentenced to six months in prison under the country's Quarantine Act. On Saturday, the watchdog group Media Matters for America reported that Google is profiting from ads for counterfeit COVID-19 vaccination cards. www.rawstory.com/counterfeit-vaccine-cards-cards/Apparently Google shopping is selling cards.. $.99 for 20?!?! |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 30, 2021 21:55:05 GMT
How did they know they card was forged?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 30, 2021 21:56:20 GMT
No clue!
Although ... It is do it yourself filling them out so who knows! Not I!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 30, 2021 22:00:16 GMT
I would imagine the names are entered into a database when you get the vaccine. They can probably run a search for the name just like you would a car license number.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 30, 2021 22:02:53 GMT
I would imagine the names are entered into a database when you get the vaccine. They can probably run a search for the name just like you would a car license number. They were Americans. Am I in a National data base too? |
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Post by katlady on Jul 30, 2021 22:03:01 GMT
I would imagine the names are entered into a database when you get the vaccine. They can probably run a search for the name just like you would a car license number. SO and I can’t find our names in our state’s database. We have to submit our cards to be entered, and we haven’t gotten around to it yet. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 30, 2021 22:13:06 GMT
I remember the pharmacist typed my insurance and driver's license info into a computer at CVS. I just assumed it was going into a database of those who get vaccinated. I could be wrong though.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 30, 2021 22:21:35 GMT
First of all, to address the OP, good. Maybe it will happen less if they know the consequences are fairly large and being enforced.
I checked and there actually is a registry in Texas, but you have to request to join and then give permission for your immunization records to be shared with them. I hope I don’t have to track those puppies down through various locations. But I’d like to make sure our COVID shots were documented correctly while the actual original records may still exist.
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Post by Zee on Jul 30, 2021 22:26:04 GMT
I don't think anyone in Canada has any way to tell if my standard-issue card with hand written info on it is legit but who knows. I could print out the exact same card on cardstock and use the lot number and dates on my card but with a different name for anyone. The lot number is good for multiple shots so who's to say it's fake? If questioned why you're not in some database, you'd have a good case for claiming human error in not registering you if you've got the card right there.
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Post by scrapsotime on Jul 30, 2021 22:26:32 GMT
As soon as I got the second Modern shot a volunteer enter the information in the CDC vsafe database and I got a text sending me the link to put in a verification code to retrieve my info. I also have the card they filled out
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 30, 2021 22:33:08 GMT
Just realized that if Canada notified the US, there could be more charges here. It is a Federal offense to use the Federal logos.. and the CDC logo is on the card.
Maybe they didn't make them, but possession might also be an offense.
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Post by katlady on Jul 30, 2021 22:59:32 GMT
I remember the pharmacist typed my insurance and driver's license info into a computer at CVS. I just assumed it was going into a database of those who get vaccinated. I could be wrong though. Our info was typed into a computer too. But, we are not in the state's database. So, who knows! I guess we are only in the hospital's database? |
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Post by quiltz on Jul 30, 2021 23:07:52 GMT
People who try to enter Canada must use the "ArriveCAN" app. Just putting out more about the article. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/travellers-u-s-fined-fake-vaccination-documents-1.6124734Two travellers who arrived in Toronto from the United States have been fined for providing fake COVID-19 proof of vaccination documents and lying about pre-departure tests. The Public Health Agency of Canada says the travellers also didn't comply with requirements to stay at a government authorized hotel or to get tested upon arrival. The agency says in a news release Friday that the travellers arrived last week and have been handed four fines totalling $19,720 each. Canada eased quarantine requirements on July 5 for fully vaccinated Canadians and foreign nationals with an exemption to enter the country, but they must upload their proof of vaccination documents to the ArriveCAN app before entry. Those who are not fully vaccinated are still required to stay for three days at a government-approved hotel, quarantine for 14 days and undergo tests pre-departure, post-arrival and eight days later. The public health agency is warning that all travellers are obligated to answer questions truthfully and that providing false information or documents to government officials upon entry to Canada is a serious offence. The agency says violating quarantine or isolation instructions when entering Canada could lead to a $5,000 fine for each day of non-compliance or each offence, or more serious penalties including six months in prison or $750,000 in fines. |
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Post by roxley on Jul 30, 2021 23:07:59 GMT
I wonder how the Americans who entered Canada illegally, feel about people who enter the U.S. illegally? Hmmmmmm……..  |
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Post by stittsygirl on Jul 31, 2021 2:24:58 GMT
My vaccination information was entered into our state’s DOH database (WA) and I can access proof of my vaccination through MyIR Mobile, the service they use. It has the dates of my COVID vaccinations, the manufacturer, and the lot numbers. I have it printed out, and can also access it quickly on my phone, if my hand written CDC Proof of Vaccination is ever questioned (which I expect it will at some point - it was one of the first ones and looks totally fake to me 😬).
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Post by buddysmom on Jul 31, 2021 3:44:00 GMT
Good! I'm (hopefully) going to Iceland in a few days and this was just posted today on Reddit about Iceland--
"There was just something on the news here about 74% of new covid cases were previously vaccinated.' It turns out most of them were at the same super spreader event and lied about their vaccination status to get in."
I wonder what amount of hospitalizations in the US are people who are not vaccinated but tell the hospital that they are vaccinated so they don’t appear stupid. Then that skews the numbers to show more breakthrough cases. They can't require proof of vaccination but if enough people lied saying they were vaccinated, that could change the stats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 12:56:19 GMT
Good! I'm (hopefully) going to Iceland in a few days and this was just posted today on Reddit about Iceland-- "There was just something on the news here about 74% of new covid cases were previously vaccinated.' It turns out most of them were at the same super spreader event and lied about their vaccination status to get in." I wonder what amount of hospitalizations in the US are people who are not vaccinated but tell the hospital that they are vaccinated so they don’t appear stupid. Then that skews the numbers to show more breakthrough cases. They can't require proof of vaccination but if enough people lied saying they were vaccinated, that could change the stats. They've just brought in tougher restriction on arrivals. Here's the LINK in case you were unaware of the changes ( whatever they were before) This LINK was published yesterday |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 13:05:48 GMT
I wonder what amount of hospitalizations in the US are people who are not vaccinated but tell the hospital that they are vaccinated so they don’t appear stupid. Then that skews the numbers to show more breakthrough cases. They can't require proof of vaccination but if enough people lied saying they were vaccinated, that could change the stats. That's the good thing about a national data base. Here in the UK we have our own individual NHS number given to you when you were born or registered with a GP if you entered to live here later. When you enter hospital all your records are accessible together with your vaccination status if they access the data base with your number so there is no chance of a UK citizen lying about their status here. So when they say they have xyz number of people in hospital with covid and abc numbers of those unvaccinated we know those numbers are totally true. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 13:11:34 GMT
I think it's pure selfishness to enter another country and lie about your status when every country in the world is trying their best to control this virus. I'm glad Canada is taking actions against these people. Some countries have made great sacrifices to protect their citizens only to have these entitled people make light of everything.
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