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Post by slicksister on Jul 31, 2021 4:15:30 GMT
I'm starting a new business as a de-cluttering coach. I decided to do it because I answered an ad on FB marketplace for someone looking for someone to help them organize after inheriting all of her moms stuff after she passed away. I mentioned that I could help her and to PM me. Then 3 other people PM'd me and asked it I could help them! Seems like there's a need in this area.
Is this something you would ever spend money on? The plan is not to do it for them but to coach them and give them encouragement/homework/guidance. I have an initial meeting with them to find out their goals, their organization style, the scope of the job and make a plan. Then they can decide if they want to hire me and we'll go from there.
The name of my business is ENJOY LESS taken from this quote by Socrates "The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more but in developing the capacity to enjoy less."
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 31, 2021 4:21:37 GMT
I don’t know that I would personally hire someone for myself, but a friend of ours could sure use some help in making logical decisions with letting things go. It’s a hoarder situation that is truly sad and we don’t know how to help.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 31, 2021 4:26:35 GMT
I said no. Not that it isn't a good idea, but I feel like I am pretty good at it (in general). The day I retired, I emptied an entire closet worth of clothes. I kept some of the dressier work clothes and a few casual slacks and blouses. Almost everything else work wise went. I think I am pretty good at having space for what I want and when I start to get too tight in an area, I purge.
Good luck with your new business. I can see people needing help. Sometimes people need just a start and some people need their hand held the whole time.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 31, 2021 4:27:01 GMT
I would hire someone but I would want them to actually come in and organize my drawers and shelves (with input from me of course).
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Post by caangel on Jul 31, 2021 4:28:57 GMT
Personally no, but the people I know who would would want this: I would hire someone but I would want them to actually come in and organize my drawers and shelves (with input from me of course).
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Post by ntsf on Jul 31, 2021 4:29:18 GMT
I think coming at it as a coach.. is a good business model.. like, do initial assessment, lay out some tasks or suggestions, then swing back in and check on progress, cheerleading, helping out etc. so it is not a one or two day huge task..
I used to tell my friends we should have basement parties..you help me clean out my stuff, I'll help you. cause if someone is coming over, you are going to do something, and it is easier to tell someone else to get rid of something than do it yourself.
also, as coach, you are supporting with positivity
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 31, 2021 4:39:15 GMT
Love the quote and best of luck with the business!
I do think there is a market for this type of business having watched a girlfriend downsize from the big family home to a condo in the last month.
Another add-on service would be to help with listing items for sale on FB marketplace and other sell sites. My girlfriend had no interest in figuring it all out. She would send photos to her daughter-in-law across the country who would list them, take care of the sale and let the buyers know when/where to pick up.
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Post by slicksister on Jul 31, 2021 4:48:41 GMT
Love the quote and best of luck with the business! I do think there is a market for this type of business having watched a girlfriend downsize from the big family home to a condo in the last month. Another add-on service would be to help with listing items for sale on FB marketplace and other sell sites. My girlfriend had no interest in figuring it all out. She would send photos to her daughter-in-law across the country who would list them, take care of the sale and let the buyers know when/where to pick up. Great idea! I'll keep that in mind.
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Post by Linda on Jul 31, 2021 4:54:56 GMT
I wouldn't hire a service because after many years of decluttering and organising- reading books, reading blogs, organisedhome forums, watching Clean Sweep...I've got a good handle on decluttering and organising. Plus my disposable income doesn't really lend itself to hiring specialists. (and the person in my house who COULD use the help 'has it under control')
But I definitely think there's a market for it and I wish you all the best! I LOVE your business name!
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Post by auntiepeas on Jul 31, 2021 5:32:53 GMT
I personally wouldn’t hire someone to coach/assist but only because I enjoy decluttering and, perhaps more importantly, have the time available.
However, like others have said, I do think there are a few situations where there could easily be a need (ie, following a bereavement, ahead of/or following moving, becoming new parents or empty nesters etc).
When former neighbours of ours (who both worked full time as real estate agents and had two children, one of whom was severely disabled) recently sold their family home they had already bought their next home so moved out and used a staging service when listing. I could easily see them using a decluttering coach at that time if they had felt it was needed.
Which makes me think forming a relationship with a real estate company might be mutually beneficial for your business.
Best of luck and I think the name is perfect!
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Post by Lexica on Jul 31, 2021 5:46:53 GMT
I don’t know that I would personally hire someone for myself, but a friend of ours could sure use some help in making logical decisions with letting things go. It’s a hoarder situation that is truly sad and we don’t know how to help. I had a friend that was a hoarder. She called me crying one day to relate that her mother was coming for a surprise visit in a week's time. She said if her mother saw how she and her daughter were living, she would file for custody of the daughter. She had threatened it in the past and my friend knew her mother would follow through with taking custody of her daughter. I had previously cleaned and organized the daughter's room before, so she asked me to please help her get ready for the mother's visit. She was truly unsure of how to sort and get rid of things. I ended up having to take bags of trash home with me each night because she was going out after I had gone home and bringing some of the items that we agreed to throw away back into the house. I'm talking empty boxes. Now, I can understand wanting to temporarily keep a box of an electronic item that was just purchased in case you need to return it. But she was bringing back in boxes of things like a wooden CD rack that was several years old. No moving parts. No opportunity to return. She couldn't understand why she couldn't keep the box because it was in good condition. She had two cars and the second car was filled to the ceiling with stuff too. It sat in her driveway because the garage was overflowing with crud just like the apartment was. I did my best with her. I took her shopping for cleaning materials. She was so interested in the floor wax. I arrived early the next morning to seeing her so excited because she had just waxed the kitchen floor. She kept remarking on how wonderful the kitchen smelled. Unfortunately, she hadn't washed it first. It was filthy. I mean I don't think it had ever been washed. I had to strip the new wax, wash the floor, and then let her wax it again. She was so shocked at the color of the floor without dirt on it. We went through gallons of Nature's Miracle because she had a pet rat that lived loose in the house. It had chewed the furniture and drapes in addition to pooping and peeing everywhere. I soaked the carpeting with Nature's miracle overnight before bringing in a rented carpet cleaner the next day. She ended up buying dozens of big plastic tubs to put things into and stacking them in the little back yard of the apartment. The yard was a disaster too because she had purchased a couple of rabbits and turned them loose in the yard. There were holes everywhere and rabbits to fill them. To feed the rabbits she just bought large bags of feed and cut them open on the patio. That drew outside rats too. And the funny thing to me is she wanted to take me to lunch one day to have a serious conversation. She told me she felt I had a mental disorder of some type because my Saturdays were reserved for house cleaning. She would want to take our kids to the zoo or the beach and I would have to remind her that we did all of our house chores on Saturdays, but we could probably go Sunday if we had finished them all. She felt that I had OCD because I was cleaning my house and doing laundry every single week! And I even vacuumed under the cushions of my family room couch. She had never seen anyone clean on a normal basis so this was extremely concerning to her. She truly had no idea that she was the one with the disorder. But you could never meet a nicer person. You just couldn't go inside her house. I personally love organizing things, but I know there are many people out there that do not have a clue on how to keep their belongings in a manner that they can find them again. People like that would benefit from your service.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jul 31, 2021 6:01:42 GMT
Its not the sorting out the stuff to get rid of, it is trucking it to the trash yard or dump. I would pay bunches for someone to load my stuff up after I put it all in boxes and carry it off.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jul 31, 2021 7:01:53 GMT
I have a friend who has a business like this, but with a twist - she markets her business at helping older people who are downsizing their homes. She offers whatever help they feel they need, from helping them work out what they need or want in their new smaller home, through helping them dispose of what they don’t want (sell or donate), and organising storage if they need it before they move into their new home.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 31, 2021 11:13:27 GMT
I wouldn’t but I agree it’s a great service and wish you success!
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Post by gensmith on Jul 31, 2021 11:13:31 GMT
I wouldn’t because I’m good at doing that on my own but I think it’s a great idea for someone that needs it. I believe there’s probably a lot if people that do need this help.
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Post by lisae on Jul 31, 2021 11:18:09 GMT
It would depend on the services you offer. Everyone I knew who had to sell their parents home advised me over the last few years to not do this myself, to hire an estate company. So that is what I did. The sale is coming up soon and I'll know after it is over if I did the right thing. I think so as I can't imagine pricing and selling all that stuff myself. However, I've already done a lot of the cleanup and organizing for them since I had to stage and sell the house. I did things in the reverse order of most people for a reason but that doesn't matter here.
However, I've wondered many times if I should have sold some things myself. There are two types of items that could have been done separately and still left plenty of nice things for the sale but I would have needed help on pricing and the best way to sell. So I might have hired a consultant to help me with those things.
I can figure out WHAT to get rid of, I just don't know the best way to get money from things I know are worth more than a garage sale price.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 31, 2021 11:49:42 GMT
I don’t know that I would personally hire someone for myself, but a friend of ours could sure use some help in making logical decisions with letting things go. It’s a hoarder situation that is truly sad and we don’t know how to help. I had a friend that was a hoarder. She called me crying one day to relate that her mother was coming for a surprise visit in a week's time. She said if her mother saw how she and her daughter were living, she would file for custody of the daughter. She had threatened it in the past and my friend knew her mother would follow through with taking custody of her daughter. I had previously cleaned and organized the daughter's room before, so she asked me to please help her get ready for the mother's visit. She was truly unsure of how to sort and get rid of things. I ended up having to take bags of trash home with me each night because she was going out after I had gone home and bringing some of the items that we agreed to throw away back into the house. I'm talking empty boxes. Now, I can understand wanting to temporarily keep a box of an electronic item that was just purchased in case you need to return it. But she was bringing back in boxes of things like a wooden CD rack that was several years old. No moving parts. No opportunity to return. She couldn't understand why she couldn't keep the box because it was in good condition. She had two cars and the second car was filled to the ceiling with stuff too. It sat in her driveway because the garage was overflowing with crud just like the apartment was. I did my best with her. I took her shopping for cleaning materials. She was so interested in the floor wax. I arrived early the next morning to seeing her so excited because she had just waxed the kitchen floor. She kept remarking on how wonderful the kitchen smelled. Unfortunately, she hadn't washed it first. It was filthy. I mean I don't think it had ever been washed. I had to strip the new wax, wash the floor, and then let her wax it again. She was so shocked at the color of the floor without dirt on it. We went through gallons of Nature's Miracle because she had a pet rat that lived loose in the house. It had chewed the furniture and drapes in addition to pooping and peeing everywhere. I soaked the carpeting with Nature's miracle overnight before bringing in a rented carpet cleaner the next day. She ended up buying dozens of big plastic tubs to put things into and stacking them in the little back yard of the apartment. The yard was a disaster too because she had purchased a couple of rabbits and turned them loose in the yard. There were holes everywhere and rabbits to fill them. To feed the rabbits she just bought large bags of feed and cut them open on the patio. That drew outside rats too. And the funny thing to me is she wanted to take me to lunch one day to have a serious conversation. She told me she felt I had a mental disorder of some type because my Saturdays were reserved for house cleaning. She would want to take our kids to the zoo or the beach and I would have to remind her that we did all of our house chores on Saturdays, but we could probably go Sunday if we had finished them all. She felt that I had OCD because I was cleaning my house and doing laundry every single week! And I even vacuumed under the cushions of my family room couch. She had never seen anyone clean on a normal basis so this was extremely concerning to her. She truly had no idea that she was the one with the disorder. But you could never meet a nicer person. You just couldn't go inside her house. I personally love organizing things, but I know there are many people out there that do not have a clue on how to keep their belongings in a manner that they can find them again. People like that would benefit from your service. We need a postscript to this story. What happened when her mother came to visit? Did your friend clean up enough that mom didn't file for the kid? Honestly, the thought of a child living in what you describe... Well, she might be safer with the grandmother! At least the threat of it might motivate the mom to get some help.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jul 31, 2021 11:59:46 GMT
I also love the name and think you should include the quote in your materials. I wouldn’t hire you but I’m very good at these tasks and help people in my life do it, so there is definitely a need.
Also agree that people would want assistance with selling, and they might also use added “disposal” services, including packing, schlepping, online selling, donating, pick-ups, garage sale organization and pricing.
Re: Donating Assistance: I’m often surprised people don’t understand what is/isn’t thrift store donate-able. I’ve also helped people figure out alternate donation recipients (office supplies to favorite not-for-profits; children’s books to neighbors; shopping bags and hangers to the charity thrift store; packing peanuts and bubble wrap to to a friend who eBays; fabric and yarn to the high school sewing teacher; photo paper to the high school photography teacher; paint, clothes and accessories to community or high school/college theatre departments).
Hell, people also don’t even know what/what not/how to curbside recycle or how to do specialty recycling like paint or electronics…or they don’t understand what types of large things you can put curbside/alley and they’ll be plucked up by Regular Joes or metal salvagers. tl;dr: I’m sure people would pay for donation ideas or even outreach, packing up and schlepping. Basically, plenty of people, especially now, really want to avoid landfills but lack reuse/recycle imagination.
Good luck!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 31, 2021 12:39:44 GMT
I could definitely use someone to help me with my craft room. See decluttering thread for a pic! But I would go a step further and want someone to work along side me, question me on what I want to keep, show me how to organize things in a better way. I have small areas in my house that could use decluttering. My craft room looks like a hoarder lives here. I am not a hoarder in the rest of my house though. So I would just need little tweaks around my house. But I need someone to question me. Like for example in my hall closet I have books that I used for my masters degree. 5 years out and I have never once referenced those books. I need to get rid of them. My front closet has a shelf where I could easily fit 6 bins, it's really deep. But I'm not sure what to put in them although I have other closets busting at the seams. So someone thinking me through lesser used items to put up there would be great. But I need someone too who knows containers/organizing things.
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Post by Bobomommy on Jul 31, 2021 13:03:21 GMT
I chose no because I know HOW TO declutter. I don’t have anyone who would come work alongside me, helping go through things, box or bag donations, and haul away what needs to go. I get more done when working with someone on these type tasks because it’s more fun.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 31, 2021 13:34:41 GMT
I’m the one who helps her friends and family members declutter so I chose that I wouldn’t on the poll; but I think it’s a wonderful idea and that there is definitely a market for it. Good luck!
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Post by dewryce on Jul 31, 2021 13:39:42 GMT
I also love the name and think you should include the quote in your materials. I wouldn’t hire you but I’m very good at these tasks and help people in my life do it, so there is definitely a need. Also agree that people would want assistance with selling, and they might also use added “disposal” services, including packing, schlepping, online selling, donating, pick-ups, garage sale organization and pricing. Re: Donating Assistance: I’m often surprised people don’t understand what is/isn’t thrift store donate-able. I’ve also helped people figure out alternate donation recipients (office supplies to favorite not-for-profits; children’s books to neighbors; shopping bags and hangers to the charity thrift store; packing peanuts and bubble wrap to to a friend who eBays; fabric and yarn to the high school sewing teacher; photo paper to the high school photography teacher; paint, clothes and accessories to community or high school/college theatre departments).
Hell, people also don’t even know what/what not/how to curbside recycle or how to do specialty recycling like paint or electronics…or they don’t understand what types of large things you can put curbside/alley and they’ll be plucked up by Regular Joes or metal salvagers. tl;dr: I’m sure people would pay for donation ideas or even outreach, packing up and schlepping. Basically, plenty of people, especially now, really want to avoid landfills but lack reuse/recycle imagination.
Good luck! Really great point, and I would think a simple document would be easy to prepare and have to pass out. Don’t forget items for animal shelters like old blankets and towels. My shelter has a list on their website, along with what new donations they are looking for. I’ve donated paint to our community theater department, but never even considered clothes and accessories. Thanks!
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 31, 2021 13:42:46 GMT
I think it's a great idea!! While I don't need the service my husband does. He hangs onto everything and I think a third party could get him to part with some of his crap more easily than I could.
Good luck!!
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Post by rickmer on Jul 31, 2021 13:44:44 GMT
i said yes, but i wouldn't pay for it for myself. i worked in real estate for 7 years and it is not uncommon for realtors to offer a professional downsizer as part of their services to win a listing. it is particularly appealing to seniors moving out of a decades old family home into a smaller space.
i have worked with one to help out on a big job and shew as very well suited for it. they understand the emotional attachments, partner with online auction houses to make the house sellers some additional $ and have strong network of community organizations for donations.
so if you want to get into that business, i would definitely try to reach out to realtors and seniors residences as a preferred vendor.
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Post by Really Red on Jul 31, 2021 14:09:47 GMT
No, but I'm not a hoarder. I know a woman who does this and has more business than she can handle. Go for it!!
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Post by kitkath on Jul 31, 2021 14:24:21 GMT
I wouldn’t because I’m pretty good at decluttering and enjoy doing it. I love the name of your business and think there is a definite need for it though!
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Post by jenjie on Jul 31, 2021 14:30:08 GMT
I also love the name and think you should include the quote in your materials. I wouldn’t hire you but I’m very good at these tasks and help people in my life do it, so there is definitely a need. Also agree that people would want assistance with selling, and they might also use added “disposal” services, including packing, schlepping, online selling, donating, pick-ups, garage sale organization and pricing. Re: Donating Assistance: I’m often surprised people don’t understand what is/isn’t thrift store donate-able. I’ve also helped people figure out alternate donation recipients (office supplies to favorite not-for-profits; children’s books to neighbors; shopping bags and hangers to the charity thrift store; packing peanuts and bubble wrap to to a friend who eBays; fabric and yarn to the high school sewing teacher; photo paper to the high school photography teacher; paint, clothes and accessories to community or high school/college theatre departments).
Hell, people also don’t even know what/what not/how to curbside recycle or how to do specialty recycling like paint or electronics…or they don’t understand what types of large things you can put curbside/alley and they’ll be plucked up by Regular Joes or metal salvagers. tl;dr: I’m sure people would pay for donation ideas or even outreach, packing up and schlepping. Basically, plenty of people, especially now, really want to avoid landfills but lack reuse/recycle imagination.
Good luck! Really great point, and I would think a simple document would be easy to prepare and have to pass out. Don’t forget items for animal shelters like old blankets and towels. My shelter has a list on their website, along with what new donations they are looking for. I’ve donated paint to our community theater department, but never even considered clothes and accessories. Thanks! Another point… my friend is moving and downsizing. She took all her extra blankets to the homeless shelter and then realized she needed them to protect furniture in the moving truck. So an “order of operations” might be helpful too.
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 31, 2021 14:41:04 GMT
I think it's a great idea, but you may need to have add on services like someone with a truck to haul crap away or even people who will come in and actually move stuff. Then possibly appraisers. If someone gets rid of something of value could get messy, so maybe have a contract for service? I imagine you will partner with others. That would be something I would need to know regarding cost. Because ultimately I want to get stuff either organized or gone.
Recently a friend hired someone to help organize her scrapbook supplies for a move. She paid I think $60 an hour, but the person did the organizing. I would not do that because the person organized the things in ways I would not do. So in that line of thought, I love your idea of finding out what works for them.
I have had friends offer to help me and no one who had offered has any idea what I am confronting. I actually have a good organizing system but I have too much stuff to actually organize it. So I think if you can even get in there with them and help them sort or have someone on your list of contacts who can do that, it would be great.
Love the name of your business and your idea. Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Post by janeliz on Jul 31, 2021 14:46:20 GMT
I have a friend who just finished working with a woman who calls herself a “professional organizer”. My friend’s upstairs level, with kids rooms and a rec room, had really become cluttered and she couldn’t get a handle on it. She paid this organizer quite well and the woman spent almost 2 weeks there working. I don’t know what it all entailed, exactly, but my friend was thrilled with the results.
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Post by caangel on Jul 31, 2021 14:58:44 GMT
There definitely a market out there for this. IMO this is what Home Edit (Netflix) and Hot Mess House (Hulu) all do in their own ways. Cas from Hot Mess House does more "coaching" and some hands on decluttering. The show also has a construction component but I get the sense that was added for the show and not part of her original business. I think she has a YouTube channel.
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