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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 25, 2021 15:24:20 GMT
. Oh dear, it would appear I struck a nerve. 😀 👍 Your callous disregard for all of those left behind by this incompetent fool makes me sick.
If the thought of their tortures and beheadings makes you smile and give a thumb's up, you're as sick as he is.
You are truly one sick fuck. |
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Post by sunshine on Aug 25, 2021 15:34:10 GMT
Your callous disregard for all of those left behind by this incompetent fool makes me sick.
If the thought of their tortures and beheadings makes you smile and give a thumb's up, you're as sick as he is.
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 25, 2021 15:46:02 GMT
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your you're one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck. Fixed that for your ignorant self. |
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Post by kiera on Aug 25, 2021 16:11:26 GMT
No one here thinks torture, beheading, etc are good things. As least I sure as hell hope that no one here can turn a blind eye to it. What the Taliban is going to do is absolutely despicable and I'm terrified for the people there, especially the women and girls. Hence why we're pissed that 45 released 5,000 Taliban fighters - terrorists - from prison.
However, I would love to hear the detailed plans from 45's fans who think they know it all. How would you go about doing this? I begrudgingly voted for Biden, he was not my first or second choice, so don't think I'm a huge supporter. But he's our current president, no matter what Q says, so he's the one who has to deal with this mess.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 25, 2021 16:44:24 GMT
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck.Question…. From NDTV… linkWhen asked if he believes the Taliban President Biden said… ”Watch: Asked If He Believes Taliban, Biden Says "I Don't Trust Anybody" Washington: Taliban is seeking legitimacy and have made promises but Washington will see whether "they mean or not", said US President Joe Biden, adding that "I don't trust anybody" when asked whether he believes the Taliban or not. During his address to the nation from White House, Biden said if the Taliban is going to attempt to provide for the people of Afghanistan, they would need additional help in terms of economic assistance, trade and a whole range of things. "I don't trust anybody. Taliban has to make a fundamental decision. Is the Taliban going to attempt to be able to unite and provide for well being of the people of Afghanistan, which no one group has ever done for 100 years? If it does, it would need additional help in terms of economic assistance, trade and a whole range of things," he said when asked whether he trusts the Taliban now.” So just exactly when & where did President Biden tell US citizens to trust the Taliban? |
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Post by inkedup on Aug 25, 2021 16:56:27 GMT
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck. The Taliban is the worst. Which makes me wonder why the Stable Genius signed off on the release of 5,000 Taliban terrorists as part of his Afghani sell out. I mean, "exit plan". |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 25, 2021 17:33:02 GMT
That Kevin McCarthy is such an idiot.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 25, 2021 20:19:15 GMT
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck. It’s possible the Taliban is beheading and torturing people, but where is your evidence? Are you just speculating? Do you think there was no torture or beheadings during former’s presidency? And again, where & when did President Biden tell US citizens to trust the Taliban? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2021 20:49:22 GMT
aj2hallHe advocated violence, called for the execution of US prisoners after none for 17(?) Years. He did nothing, when he had the opportunity, about the brutal killing and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2021 22:44:57 GMT
Eric Prince shows his ugly head again!! Dear brother if Betsy DeVos... 8 HOURS AGO. Erik Prince Is Charging $6,500 a Person to Evacuate Afghanistan on His Chartered Planes The Blackwater founder is back to privatizing every inch of the forever wars. News and Engagement Editor Bio | Follow Jacquelyn Martin/AP As scenes of chaos and desperation mount ahead of the fastly approaching August 31 deadline to evacuate US troops from Afghanistan, Erik Prince, the notorious Blackwater founder, has identified a golden opportunity to make some cash on the final way out.*** Mr. Prince, whose Blackwater guards were convicted of killing civilians in 2014 while providing security for Americans during the Iraq war, said he was charging each passenger $6,500 to get them safely into the airport and on a plane, and it would cost extra to get people who have been trapped in their homes to the airport. It remained unclear whether Mr. Prince had the wherewithal to carry out his plans.www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/08/erik-prince-afghanistan-chartered-flights/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 2:41:47 GMT
And here we have another “armchair expert” who wasn’t in the room. And I’m not talking about Waldman.
What amazes me is that he’s still alive. How old is the dude?
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 3:34:55 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 4:35:53 GMT
Apparently the dude didn’t read the agreement trump made with the terrorist group aka The Taliban….
From Fox News…
“Jesse Watters: Trump killed terrorists, Joe Biden takes orders from them
'This is going to dog Joe Biden for the rest of his term,' the co-host of 'The Five' says”
By Angelica Stabile | Fox News
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President Biden is blatantly allowing the Taliban to take advantage of the United States, "The Five" co-host Jesse Watters argued Wednesday.”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 10:02:05 GMT
It must really eat at the Republicans that after four years of total devastating incompetence by a Republican President the Democrats managed to elect a decent man doing a really decent job cleaning up the mess left by their guy. That he is showing compassion and empathy in the process that the other guy could never do. And thank you for sharing your petty little remark with us. It’s a perfect example of the bitterness Republicans must feel about now. Decent man doing a decent job? What the actual fuck. I'd bet my last dollar those that will be left behind enemy lines would disagree with you.
You should stick with lifting everyone else's opinions off of Twitter because your ignorance and stupidity really shows.
You mean like yours in regards to facts and what the previous administration did that made this so much more difficult? the loyalty pledge within the republican cult is astounding! As is their selfishness, lack of empathy and their propensity to just ignore all facts and reality. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 10:06:55 GMT
. Oh dear, it would appear I struck a nerve. 😀 👍 Your callous disregard for all of those left behind by this incompetent fool makes me sick.
If the thought of their tortures and beheadings makes you smile and give a thumb's up, you're as sick as he is.
You mean just like the Orange cheeto did with the Kurds? He literally allowed them to be executed by Turkey and other forces by abandoning them pulling out US military, and to the surprise of our US military! The republican cult memory loss and their ability to ignore and rewrite history is just amazing. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 10:10:44 GMT
You are truly one sick fuck. Ah, your one of the 41% that thinks joe’s doing a fine job-figures. If you paid any attention about what’s happening over there you’d know beheadings and tortures are happening. Anyone that thinks joes doing just fine, had no choice but to stick with trumps plan even though dotard changed the date, and actually told US citizens to trust the Taliban is the sick fuck. Still higher than the approval rating of the Orange cheeto. 7-8 million more Americans voted for our current president too over the Orange yellow bellied idiot. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 10:28:15 GMT
It must really eat at the Republicans that after four years of total devastating incompetence by a Republican President the Democrats managed to elect a decent man doing a really decent job cleaning up the mess left by their guy. That he is showing compassion and empathy in the process that the other guy could never do. And thank you for sharing your petty little remark with us. It’s a perfect example of the bitterness Republicans must feel about now. Decent man doing a decent job? What the actual fuck. I'd bet my last dollar those that will be left behind enemy lines would disagree with you.
You should stick with lifting everyone else's opinions off of Twitter because your ignorance and stupidity really shows.
All the while your posts are screaming “I’M IN A CULT! I’m A SHEEPLE FOLLOWING THE LIES OF A CORRUPT AF PARTY AND ORANGE CHEETO !” |
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Post by hookturnian on Aug 26, 2021 11:40:09 GMT
And here we have another “armchair expert” who wasn’t in the room. And I’m not talking about Waldman. What amazes me is that he’s still alive. How old is the dude? While you may not like what he has to say, the reality is that your allies are losing faith in you and feel increasingly railroaded by your unilateral actions. Your actions here will no doubt have repercussions the next time you decide to go to war. It also hurts your and your allies abilities to engage civilians on the ground. Who would want to work with a foreign army if there's every chance you will be abandoned at any time. And, yes, this goes for both Trump and Biden's actions. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 11:59:22 GMT
And here we have another “armchair expert” who wasn’t in the room. And I’m not talking about Waldman. What amazes me is that he’s still alive. How old is the dude? While you may not like what he has to say, the reality is that your allies are losing faith in you and feel increasingly railroaded by your unilateral actions. Your actions here will no doubt have repercussions the next time you decide to go to war. It also hurts your and your allies abilities to engage civilians on the ground. Who would want to work with a foreign army if there's every chance you will be abandoned at any time. And, yes, this goes for both Trump and Biden's actions. Biden administration really didn’t have choice in this—following the “peace treaty” that the Orange cheeto put into place, decisions that really only advocated Taliban won’t attack US if US doesn’t attack Taliban, as well as the release of 5000 Taliban militants—all without participation with the Afghanistan government. Then cheeto DRASTICALLY REDUCES the number of US military in Afghanistan, agrees to get rest out by May 1, all the while the Taliban starts to take over —again without US pushing back because Orange cheeto tied the hands of the next administration. IF Biden administration would have decided to push back, then MORE US troops would have had to be (once again) deployed, as the number of troops that remained would not have likely had a chance, and it would have been an “act of war”, based on the Orange cheetos agreement with the Taliban. So tell me again, how is this Biden’s fault or doing? Given the administration he inherited and the policy/agreements they made, what should have Biden done? Our Allies knew/saw/experienced the clusterfuck Orange cheeto. HE weakened the USA. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 26, 2021 12:07:35 GMT
And here we have another “armchair expert” who wasn’t in the room. And I’m not talking about Waldman. What amazes me is that he’s still alive. How old is the dude? "Armchair expert" -- are you kidding me? Giving his opinion about what's going on with actual hard evidence supporting his arguments. Do you consider historians examining current events to be armchair experts? You may disagree with his arguments and conclusions, but let's not pretend that calling him names is anything but a lack of coherent argument on your part. And shame on Paul Waldron for the snarkiness. I want to hear lots of informed opinions on what's going on. Not this crap. I actually read the article in the Economist yesterday and appreciate his point of view. I don't agree with all of it, but Kissinger has a brilliant mind. |
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Post by gar on Aug 26, 2021 12:59:58 GMT
And now there are credible warnings of an imminent attack from Isis K on the crowds at Kabul airport...  |
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Post by hookturnian on Aug 26, 2021 13:04:06 GMT
While you may not like what he has to say, the reality is that your allies are losing faith in you and feel increasingly railroaded by your unilateral actions. Your actions here will no doubt have repercussions the next time you decide to go to war. It also hurts your and your allies abilities to engage civilians on the ground. Who would want to work with a foreign army if there's every chance you will be abandoned at any time. And, yes, this goes for both Trump and Biden's actions. Biden administration really didn’t have choice in this—following the “peace treaty” that the Orange cheeto put into place, decisions that really only advocated Taliban won’t attack US if US doesn’t attack Taliban, as well as the release of 5000 Taliban militants—all without participation with the Afghanistan government. Then cheeto DRASTICALLY REDUCES the number of US military in Afghanistan, agrees to get rest out by May 1, all the while the Taliban starts to take over —again without US pushing back because Orange cheeto tied the hands of the next administration. IF Biden administration would have decided to push back, then MORE US troops would have had to be (once again) deployed, as the number of troops that remained would not have likely had a chance, and it would have been an “act of war”, based on the Orange cheetos agreement with the Taliban. So tell me again, how is this Biden’s fault or doing? Given the administration he inherited and the policy/agreements they made, what should have Biden done? Our Allies knew/saw/experienced the clusterfuck Orange cheeto. HE weakened the USA. What could have been done differently is something that should be investigated. I can't read the article posted, but I assume that that was one of the questions Kissinger was asking. But here are some ideas I have: how about consulting your allies in November or even late January, rather than presenting them with a fait accompli in April. How about not abandoning Bagram at 3:00am without telling your allies, switching off the electricity alerting looters to the fact that the base was empty, and leaving 5000 prisoners, a lot of them Taliban, behind unguarded. Below are some of the reactions from your allies. The fact that they are criticing Biden's actions leads me to believe that there were other actions that could have been taken by the US, and that they would have taken other decisions in the same situation. apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-climate-change-kabul-84ee5e455a70def86647bbfd22bdfbd7foreignpolicy.com/2021/08/20/lessons-biden-afghanistan-withdrawal/www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-biden-betrays-another-us-ally-as-he-leaves-afghanistan-to-be-conquered-by-the-taliban/news-story/847a3c8e9014861041d2b423b1aa9c2b?utm_source=SEM&utm_medium=PPC_SEM&utm_campaign={campaign}&gclid=CjwKCAjw95yJBhAgEiwAmRrutG_H1APOymxREInlq_qoMukA1I3ApZygu_7hbvVtdAY15D9lx0LxXBoCSQgQAvD_BwEwww.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/3ea7e87e-ab3a-4e14-8396-8061420942b0www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/us-allies-tear-into-biden-administration-over-afghanistan-debacle/amp/The US needs to stop looking at everything through a red team vs blue team lens. Stop shutting down discourse just because it's someone from the other side that is criticising your guy. Stop with the whataboutery before you destroy your country. And yes, that goes for both sides. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 26, 2021 13:11:29 GMT
Biden administration really didn’t have choice in this—following the “peace treaty” that the Orange cheeto put into place, decisions that really only advocated Taliban won’t attack US if US doesn’t attack Taliban, as well as the release of 5000 Taliban militants—all without participation with the Afghanistan government. Then cheeto DRASTICALLY REDUCES the number of US military in Afghanistan, agrees to get rest out by May 1, all the while the Taliban starts to take over —again without US pushing back because Orange cheeto tied the hands of the next administration. IF Biden administration would have decided to push back, then MORE US troops would have had to be (once again) deployed, as the number of troops that remained would not have likely had a chance, and it would have been an “act of war”, based on the Orange cheetos agreement with the Taliban. So tell me again, how is this Biden’s fault or doing? Given the administration he inherited and the policy/agreements they made, what should have Biden done? Our Allies knew/saw/experienced the clusterfuck Orange cheeto. HE weakened the USA. What could have been done differently is something that should be investigated. I can't read the article posted, but I assume that that was one of the questions Kissinger was asking. But here are some ideas I have: how about consulting your allies in November or even late January, rather than presenting them with a fait accompli in April. How about not abandoning Bagram at 3:00am without telling your allies, switching off the electricity alerting looters to the fact that the base was empty, and leaving 5000 prisoners, a lot of them Taliban, behind unguarded. Below are some of the reactions from your allies. The fact that they are criticing Biden's actions leads me to believe that there were other actions that could have been taken by the US, and that they would have taken other decisions in the same situation. apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-climate-change-kabul-84ee5e455a70def86647bbfd22bdfbd7foreignpolicy.com/2021/08/20/lessons-biden-afghanistan-withdrawal/www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-biden-betrays-another-us-ally-as-he-leaves-afghanistan-to-be-conquered-by-the-taliban/news-story/847a3c8e9014861041d2b423b1aa9c2b?utm_source=SEM&utm_medium=PPC_SEM&utm_campaign={campaign}&gclid=CjwKCAjw95yJBhAgEiwAmRrutG_H1APOymxREInlq_qoMukA1I3ApZygu_7hbvVtdAY15D9lx0LxXBoCSQgQAvD_BwEwww.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/3ea7e87e-ab3a-4e14-8396-8061420942b0www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/us-allies-tear-into-biden-administration-over-afghanistan-debacle/amp/The US needs to stop looking at everything through a red team vs blue team lens. Stop shutting down discourse just because it's someone from the other side that is criticising your guy. Stop with the whataboutery before you destroy your country. And yes, that goes for both sides. What I’m saying is that while the Biden administration inherited the treat/agreements and is avoiding the loss of US life, what short of war (any push back against Taliban would certainly be construed as this). I’ll go read the links you have posted. Updated… Link #1 allies are correct, most of this was US doing—and the previous administration was the catalyst for what’s happening now. Trump administration opened the doors to Taliban taking over (and I’ll bet that he was handsomely rewarded $$$ for it). Trump tied the hands of any administration after his in ensuring that Taliban would be free to invade, did do without consideration of the Afghanistan government and sealed the deal that if US intervened or pushed back, we’d be at war. Link #2 decent representation and while any administration is open for criticism on any actions taken by said administration, at least they acknowledge that Biden wasn’t given too many options and were more accurate in unbiased reporting. Link #3 a horrible/terribly biased article where it’s provocatively written and missing both context and accuracy related to a proper timeline of events leading up to what us happening now. Link #4 pretty much the same response as for Link #1. If US pushed back on treaty made by trump, US would most likely be at war with Taliban on Afghanistan soil. Link #5 this article makes it clear that NATO is looking at the issue over time—2 decades. And in this article, with US keeping with the treaty made from previous administration, pulling out—the US allies followed suit and pulled out too. If the treaty wouldn’t have been honored, US would most likely be at war, forcing our allies to join in another “unwinnable” war. |
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Post by hookturnian on Aug 26, 2021 13:39:31 GMT
The fact that allies are criticising Biden's actions means that they believe that what he did WAS NOT the only viable option. Bear in mind that allies are usually very circumspect about criticising other allies in a theatre of war. The fact that they did so should tell you something. Germany even went so far as to say that Biden's decision was based on domestic politics (i.e. red team blue team) rather than the situation in Afghanistan.
The allies were forced to withdraw too because they did not have the air cover and additional troops to do anything else once the US withdrew/withdraws its forces. Biden tied their hands.
Link 3 is an opinion piece from before the fall of Kabul. It's meant to provoke outrage. Look past the emotive writing, and examine the content of the piece though. He is drawing parallels between Trump's treatment of the Kurds and Biden's treatment of Afghans. And pointing out that the US might find itself short of allies in the future.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2021 13:50:43 GMT
CNN. there has been an explosion at Kabul airport...
No details outside where the people wait. There are some casualties. Afghan forces probable..
There has been those ISIS K threats...
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Post by pinklady on Aug 26, 2021 14:15:00 GMT
Wait, Trump bragged that he defeated isis? What happened? 😉
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 26, 2021 14:16:18 GMT
Wait, Trump bragged that he defeated isis? What happened? 😉 Apparently there is a new variant. Heartbreaking on so many levels. |
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Post by casii on Aug 26, 2021 14:38:33 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2021 14:41:51 GMT
Appears to have been a suicide bomber.
From Pentagon, Barbara Starr .. there are US personnel wounded. Large number of Afghan injured.
Large explosion and gun fire.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 14:52:29 GMT
It was inevitable, imo, that this would happen once the situation degraded to such an extent at the aiport.
Horrible and, sadly, predictable.
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