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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2021 15:02:41 GMT
Second explosion .. Politico's Pentagon reporter, Lara Seligman tweeted that another explosion has been reported at the Afghanistan airport where Americans and refugees are attempting to flee the country. While there is no official confirmation from officials, she said that three sources have confirmed that there are American casualties and that the U.S. forces returned fire. The Pentagon was expected to hold a briefing at 10:30 a.m. EST, but that has since been delayed. www.rawstory.com/explosion-afghanistan-casualties/*** Kirby reports the second explosion may have been at/near Baron Hotel in Kabul ..Baron Hotel is where the British were stationed, but it also where our helicopters picked up 196 Americans last week. I think that was where another country's was there screening their citizens.
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Post by gar on Aug 26, 2021 15:45:46 GMT
At least 14 dead 😕
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2021 15:51:02 GMT
They are only telling us casualties ... It does appear that there are Afghan deaths..
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 26, 2021 16:29:35 GMT
They are only telling us casualties ... It does appear that there are Afghan deaths.. CNN very briefly reported around that number then walked it back because family notification protocols. 😢
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 17:04:47 GMT
Here's a live feed from the Guardian LINK
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Post by tenacious on Aug 26, 2021 17:10:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 17:19:26 GMT
That link takes one to Affiliate Futures
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 17:24:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 17:25:55 GMT
The US ambassador in Kabul has told staff there that as many as four U.S. Marines were killed in an explosion outside the city’s airport. The Pentagon has confirmed that “a number” of American military personnel were killed in today’s “complex attack.”
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Post by tenacious on Aug 26, 2021 17:27:00 GMT
That link takes one to Affiliate Futures It does now, but the article is there. You can Google “Wall Street Journal Afghanistan” and the article will come up and you can read it.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 18:05:01 GMT
And here we have another “armchair expert” who wasn’t in the room. And I’m not talking about Waldman. What amazes me is that he’s still alive. How old is the dude? "Armchair expert" -- are you kidding me? Giving his opinion about what's going on with actual hard evidence supporting his arguments. Do you consider historians examining current events to be armchair experts? You may disagree with his arguments and conclusions, but let's not pretend that calling him names is anything but a lack of coherent argument on your part. And shame on Paul Waldron for the snarkiness. I want to hear lots of informed opinions on what's going on. Not this crap. I actually read the article in the Economist yesterday and appreciate his point of view. I don't agree with all of it, but Kissinger has a brilliant mind. Here’s the thing. The ONLY people who knows anything about what is currently happening are the people involved in the decision making and those who gathered the data used to make the decisions period. Everything else is pure speculations by “armchair quarterbacks” like Kissinger who has been out of the game for years. The dude’s 98 no wonder I thought he was dead. My favorite saying these days are “what I would have done/what should have been done” made by individuals who “were not in the room” when the decisions were made or what data was available at the time the decisions were made. The fact is they don’t know what they would have decided because they weren’t looking at the data that the decision makers were looking at when the decisions were made. All this speculation and opinions by the “armchair quarterbacks” is not helpful. There are certainly questions that need to be answered. Two come to mind, how come we didn’t know or see the that Afghan Army was going to collapse as quickly as it did and was there a better way to get folks out of Afghanistan without all this chaos? And there are many more questions involving both the Biden Administration and trump administration that needs to be answered. And this is what Congress, as part of their oversight duties, needs to do once we are completely out of Afghanistan. As to Kissinger having a brilliant mind, nah, I lived through his “statesmanship” during the Vietnam war and it’s was my classmates that went and fought in that war. So no, I’m not a fan.
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Post by wellway on Aug 26, 2021 18:31:08 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 18:38:57 GMT
The fact that allies are criticising Biden's actions means that they believe that what he did WAS NOT the only viable option. Bear in mind that allies are usually very circumspect about criticising other allies in a theatre of war. The fact that they did so should tell you something. Germany even went so far as to say that Biden's decision was based on domestic politics (i.e. red team blue team) rather than the situation in Afghanistan. The allies were forced to withdraw too because they did not have the air cover and additional troops to do anything else once the US withdrew/withdraws its forces. Biden tied their hands. Link 3 is an opinion piece from before the fall of Kabul. It's meant to provoke outrage. Look past the emotive writing, and examine the content of the piece though. He is drawing parallels between Trump's treatment of the Kurds and Biden's treatment of Afghans. And pointing out that the US might find itself short of allies in the future. Why would the allies want to stay if the US pulled out? If the allies wanted to stay they had ample time to bring in their own planes and addition troops. As far as leaving, the allies had ample time gather up their stuff and leave since Biden announced in April we would be out by 9/1, not that we would hang around and then pull up stakes and leave all at once on 9/11. To be fair here the United States and their allies help build/train/weaponize an Afghan army of over 300,000 people before deciding to pull up stakes and leaving . trump did not do that when he decided to leave the Kurds on their own. He just left period. So IMO there is no comparison.
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Post by tenacious on Aug 26, 2021 18:39:13 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 18:48:54 GMT
From the Washington Post….
Opinion by Jennifer Rubin Columnist Today at 12:03 p.m. EDT
“Republicans have latched on to a series of both foreign and domestic policies that will set the stage for their 2022 campaigns. Weirdly, their positions turn out to be starkly at odds with a majority of voters.
On foreign policy, some Republicans, in search of a way to deflect blame from their cult leader who cut a surrender agreement with the Taliban and drew down troops to 2,500, would now have voters believe it was all a ruse. Sure, they argue, Donald Trump ran on ending the war, but that was a lie. This is their excuse? That he was going to continue the forever war he ran against?
It seems Republicans are returning to the position that we should never leave Afghanistan, one at odds with most Americans. Even more striking, Republicans are already beating the drum to limit entry of Afghan allies, which 80 percent of Americans disagree with. The GOP message boils down to: Stay forever, and if not, don’t take Afghans with us. Most voters want out and want to take as many Afghan allies as possible. In fact, they think the Biden team is not doing enough to evacuate Afghans.”
Sounds about right….
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:01:05 GMT
Status Quo. OMG what a dumb ass reason to keep our troops in Afghanistan….
What happened today was heartbreaking and we were so close in getting out for good with no casualties. But to keep our troops in Afghanistan so none would be killed….
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:18:32 GMT
Pentagon Briefing…..
* 12 Servicemen killed , 15 injured.
* US will go after those behind today’s attack.
* US will prepare for additional attacks.
* US had shared information with the Taliban and that may have prevented other attacks.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:20:39 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:21:33 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:22:34 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:34:39 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 19:56:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 19:58:56 GMT
what an absolute tragedy that has just happened. I could only wonder if this attack was a last attempt to create chaos or possibly an event by a party that wants the US to stay. This attack might create that situation.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 26, 2021 20:11:19 GMT
He needed to be VISIBLE a few hours ago...Today was the bloodiest day in military actions in the last 10 years and our President is silent. A good friend has friends there at the airport that she cannot get ahold of. I am sick and scared honestly...
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 26, 2021 20:34:16 GMT
If only everyone cared this much about the war in Afghanistan the entirety of the last 20 years.
Today is a horrific tragedy on so many levels.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 21:30:50 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 21:31:33 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 21:34:14 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 21:35:03 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 26, 2021 21:35:47 GMT
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