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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 15:04:10 GMT
Wow. All kinds of stuff going on with this case. A parent met w/a teacher she'd seen hitting her two year-old. She ended up wailing on the teacher, to see "how she liked it" . The teacher is 61. The parent was arrested. The parent is now filing a report on the teacher. "A parent was arrested for violently assaulting a teacher Wednesday at St. Teresa of Avila Catholic Church’s preschool program in Grovetown, according to a sheriff’s report. Kasey Marie Brooks, 28, of Crawfordville, Ga., was charged Wednesday with battery. (See the suspect’s side of the story below.) According to the sheriff’s report, the parent said she was upset over how her child was handled on Tuesday. She came to discuss the matter with the 61-year-old teacher and school director. During the meeting, Brooks allegedly punched and hit the teacher in the back of the head, repeatedly. A witness tried to stop the assault but could not. She yelled for help and a second witness came into the room and pulled Brooks off the victim. “But then Kasey jumped back on her and again started hitting her with her fist as the victim was lying on the floor,” a sheriff’s report says. “Kasey also bit the victim’s left thumb/palm, leaving visible marks.” The witnesses pulled the parent off the teacher, and the teacher retreated to a class bathroom and locked the door. Brooks left the building, saying she would “wait for her mugshot,” a report says. As deputies arrived, the teacher’s face was swollen and she had teeth marks on the base of her thumb. She was taken by ambulance to Doctors Hospital for treatment. Brooks was charged with battery and later released on bond. She contacted The Jail Report on Thursday in anticipation of the story making the news. She requested to tell her side of the story. Here is what she sent: “I know you’ll be sharing a picture of my mug shot soon so I am reaching out to give you details from my side to help add some validity to what you report. I was arrested and charged with battery after the administration of St. Teresa of Avila Catholic Church’s preschool program pulled video surveillance footage from my nonverbal 2 year old son’s daycare classroom and for 3 hours I watched … (his teacher) spank him several times, hit him in the head, slap him with a book, shove him to the ground, snatch him up by one arm and carry him across the room multiple times, slam him in his seat to make him eat lunch alone in time-out, pick him up by his ankles and hold him on his neck/head and grab his face so hard his cheeks were touching in his mouth as she was nose to nose with him amongst other things. “The daycare director dismissed her employee’s actions and ensured me she would be keeping her job. She claimed to see nothing wrong with the teacher’s abusive behavior until she could no longer deny what we both had watched and asked me what I wanted to do about it. “I requested to speak with the teacher to hear her side and they agreed. I appreciate the opportunity to see her feel how my 2 year old son felt when she was standing over him laying helplessly on the ground.” Brooks also said that after her release from jail, she filed a sheriff’s report for the assault on her child. Sheriff’s Maj. Steve Morris said late Thursday that any such report was not yet available for review" www.theaugustapress.com/local-mom-assaults-pre-school-teacher-at-catholic-church-in-grovetown/Hitting is wrong. On both sides. You'd hope for better from both a teacher and a parent. Violence begets more violence.
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Post by redshoes on Sept 7, 2021 15:09:28 GMT
Wow! I agree that violence against the teacher is not the answer, but if what she described on video happened to my child, I’m honestly not sure I wouldn’t do the same. It’s horrible what that child endured.
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Post by grammanisi on Sept 7, 2021 15:12:00 GMT
I'm not a violent person, but I can't say that I would have kept my hands to myself if that had happened to my child or my grandkids.
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Post by Merge on Sept 7, 2021 15:16:15 GMT
Wow. Yeah, teacher needs to be done teaching forever and charged, but mom also needs legal consequences for assault.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 7, 2021 15:20:08 GMT
My first principal taught me a very important lesson my first year. He said that children are personal, and parents aren't always rational when it comes to their kids. I always kept that advice forefront in my mind when I talked to parents. At the time, I wasn't a mom and didn't see things through that lense. I was more of a do what is best for kids (IMO).
I'm not sure what the truth of that story is. Why would a parent watch her child be abused for three hours? Why didn't she question what was going on after the first incident (or second). Why didn't she pull her kid out of the program when she saw how her kid was being treated. Should the teacher have been confronted? Absolutely. Did she deserve to get beaten up-no.
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 7, 2021 15:33:31 GMT
The three hour thing has me questioning why didn't see do something sooner? The first hit to my child, I would have been on my way to that school to get my kid out. I wouldn't care if I was meeting with the President of the US, if I saw that, I would be on my way. I don't question what the teacher did as it is on video.. but why would you wait that long to do something?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 7, 2021 15:38:14 GMT
The teacher should be grateful she didn’t get shot. I am on the mom’s side.
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Post by naby64 on Sept 7, 2021 15:44:04 GMT
I am not going to jump to the mom's side just yet. I need more background to the story. This video that the mom was watching, the 3 hour span, was it a live viewing or did she request this viewing after some suspicion? Should you ever hit a child? heck no! But what the mom did was wrong also. There is no doubt in my mind that the teacher should be dismissed after that much physical abuse. AND trust me, I know the Mama Bear would come out in me if I saw such a thing. I can't be on the mom's side with her abuse. It was wrong also. There are no sides I would choose in this situation.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Sept 7, 2021 16:23:11 GMT
I don't condone violence but that teacher had it coming. If that happened to my child, my husband would have had to handcuff me to keep me from going mamma bear on that woman.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Sept 7, 2021 16:28:18 GMT
My first principal taught me a very important lesson my first year. He said that children are personal, and parents aren't always rational when it comes to their kids. I always kept that advice forefront in my mind when I talked to parents. At the time, I wasn't a mom and didn't see things through that lense. I was more of a do what is best for kids (IMO). I'm not sure what the truth of that story is. Why would a parent watch her child be abused for three hours? Why didn't she question what was going on after the first incident (or second). Why didn't she pull her kid out of the program when she saw how her kid was being treated. Should the teacher have been confronted? Absolutely. Did she deserve to get beaten up-no. I'm not sure there was a 3-hour film of the abuse. It sounds like the parent and principal watched the footage multiple times before the parent was able to convince the principal that something needed to be done with the teacher. I believe the 3 hours refers to her meeting with the principal. “The daycare director dismissed her employee’s actions and ensured me she would be keeping her job. She claimed to see nothing wrong with the teacher’s abusive behavior until she could no longer deny what we both had watched and asked me what I wanted to do about it.
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 7, 2021 16:34:18 GMT
That's all sorts of crazy-sauce. First of all, the teacher should be arrested for cruelty to a minor and the the mother while absolutely correct to feel like going ballistic, should not have severely beaten the teacher. Trust me. It was hard not to applaud, but violence against a violent person doesn't undo the damage that the monster did to the woman's son. It's a sad story and I do hope that the teacher is fired, arrested and not allowed near children ever, again. The director should be fired and investigated, as well.
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Post by elaine on Sept 7, 2021 16:52:14 GMT
I’m left with all sorts of questions.
First, the child was/is 2. Aside from special education in some parts of the country (for others it isn’t until 3), I am not sure about pre-SCHOOL at 2. It really seems like this is a daycare setting, not a classroom setting. So, I’m not sure if the “teacher” was truly a teacher and had any teacher qualifications. Regardless, whatever she was/is, she shouldn’t be abusing children in her care.
Second, if the child is truly non-verbal at 2 (plus however many months), he needs to be evaluated for public school special education. And I wonder if that has happened and if not, why not. Even if their public school system doesn’t start special Ed until 3 years, the county/state should have a team that assesses young children for developmental disorders.
If the child does have special needs, a Catholic Daycare is not the place for him.
The mother had no business assaulting anyone, although I understand her rage. I hope she uses her energy to have her son assessed and placed in an environment that will help him overcome his language delays and other developmental issues if he has them.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 7, 2021 16:59:28 GMT
I would like more details about the video and what led to this meeting. It came across to me like the mother suspected there was something going on, but the administrator wouldn't consider it until they started watching the video. I don't know that the video was live streamed. I wouldn't think so, since the mom (or the admin) didn't go and put a stop to it as it was happening. But we don't have enough details about that part of it. Either way, though, the teacher was wrong. I don't think the parent responded appropriately, either, but if I saw that happening to my kid I would be livid. I am not a violent person but I could see how some people might resort to that behavior. Especially if she felt that was the best way to get the teacher to understand what her child would have been experiencing.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 7, 2021 17:03:43 GMT
I would want to see the video and go on from there.
Mom gut reaction ... maybe take a swing at the teach(wrong but understandable) but full on assault, No way...
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 7, 2021 17:05:19 GMT
My first principal taught me a very important lesson my first year. He said that children are personal, and parents aren't always rational when it comes to their kids. I always kept that advice forefront in my mind when I talked to parents. At the time, I wasn't a mom and didn't see things through that lense. I was more of a do what is best for kids (IMO). I'm not sure what the truth of that story is. Why would a parent watch her child be abused for three hours? Why didn't she question what was going on after the first incident (or second). Why didn't she pull her kid out of the program when she saw how her kid was being treated. Should the teacher have been confronted? Absolutely. Did she deserve to get beaten up-no. I'm not sure there was a 3-hour film of the abuse. It sounds like the parent and principal watched the footage multiple times before the parent was able to convince the principal that something needed to be done with the teacher. I believe the 3 hours refers to her meeting with the principal. “The daycare director dismissed her employee’s actions and ensured me she would be keeping her job. She claimed to see nothing wrong with the teacher’s abusive behavior until she could no longer deny what we both had watched and asked me what I wanted to do about it.Think I read that too quickly. Yikes. I am trying to imagine a principal watching a three hour video with a parent. While I believe the abuse happened, I think this sounds a little off.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 7, 2021 17:28:30 GMT
Ok, so many questions.
But here’s my *opinion* right or wrong it’s my *opinion* ( and I know it’s at least a little bit wrong )
I’m not sure I could honestly convict the mother if I were on the jury and the defense attorney played the tape the mother described. Yes, violence is wrong, but it would depend on a lot of other things once I saw that tape. A good lawyer and a contrite parent could easily sway me if I had to view that tape as described. *I* would feel angry viewing tape such as described and it is not my child. Things that would play into it upon seeing the tape, is she sorry, has she seen a counselor/therapist, is this her only offense, etc etc. By the same token, if the tape were played and the mother lied I’d be so much more angry that if she had never responded.
If such a tape exists both the teacher & the daycare/preschool administration should be charged with endangering the welfare of a child. If any daycare or preschool has video evidence of that kind of abuse as described and did nothing then they are complicit.
If this were my child I’d have gone straight to the county prosecutors office with the tape or a video of the tape and not waste my time discussing it with the teacher or the school. If I was viewing the tape at the school I’d video it on my phone and leave with my kid & the evidence. I’m positive there would be many unkind words from me but I do not think I’d be throwing the first punch. But I’d understand/comprehend the rage she felt if the tape is as described.
At this point the mother needs a lawyer to get the tape for evidence then she ought to sue them.
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Post by Zee on Sept 7, 2021 17:34:45 GMT
Ok, so many questions. But here’s my *opinion* right or wrong it’s my *opinion* ( and I know it’s at least a little bit wrong ) I’m not sure I could honestly convict the mother if I were on the jury and the defense attorney played the tape the mother described. Yes, violence is wrong, but it would depend on a lot of other things once I saw that tape. A good lawyer and a contrite parent could easily sway me if I had to view that tape as described. *I* would feel angry viewing tape such as described and it is not my child. Things that would play into it upon seeing the tape, is she sorry, has she seen a counselor/therapist, is this her only offense, etc etc. By the same token, if the tape were played and the mother lied I’d be so much more angry that if she had never responded. If such a tape exists both the teacher & the daycare/preschool administration should be charged with endangering the welfare of a child. If any daycare or preschool has video evidence of that kind of abuse as described and did nothing then they are complicit. If this were my child I’d have gone straight to the county prosecutors office with the tape or a video of the tape and not waste my time discussing it with the teacher or the school. If I was viewing the tape at the school I’d video it on my phone and leave with my kid & the evidence. I’m positive there would be many unkind words from me but I do not think I’d be throwing the first punch. But I’d understand/comprehend the rage she felt if the tape is as described. At this point the mother needs a lawyer to get the tape for evidence then she ought to sue them. Well it was a premeditated assault so I'm not sure you could refuse to convict, but I can certainly see giving her the lightest sentence possible while throwing the book at the teacher. I think my first thought would be too get her prosecuted rather than beating her old ass, even if she richly deserves it. I guess I'd have to be in the mom's shoes to know what I really would have done. It's a little different seeing it on tape vs catching her in the act in person. Either way, she's despicable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 18:55:21 GMT
I wonder if the mother wanted to be arrested to force the issue into the news (as it is now) instead of allowing the administrator/school to keep it under the rug and shut it down after chasing her (the mom) out of the school.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 7, 2021 19:22:42 GMT
I wonder if the mother wanted to be arrested to force the issue into the news (as it is now) instead of allowing the administrator/school to keep it under the rug and shut it down after chasing her (the mom) out of the school. Parents call the news quite often to report things like this. I can't imagine thinking that getting arrested is a good way to bring the situation to light. Now you are in trouble and have taken the focus away from what the teacher did. Then again, who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 19:43:59 GMT
I hate to say that I am on the fence about this....without more facts of course.
Just the THOUGHT of someone hurting one of my kids...like even a hair on their head...I can feel this molten lava, mama bear, rage bubbling up from the inside. I would like to THINK that I would be able to IMMEDIATELY call the police or someone to have the teacher charged after watching a video like that. But if all that abuse happened to one of my kids when they were that small, I can't promise I wouldn't go into the red zone.
When my son was in 2nd grade here, he came home and told me one of his teachers pushed him on the playground. Long story short, she did but tried to lie about it and I caught her in a lie. My husband and I were talking to her in the office and we were standing. I am one of these people that I like my "space" and she was too close and kept patting my arm trying to cover her ass. I felt myself getting more and more mad. I was looking her in the face (she didn't speak English) and I said to my husband....you better tell her to stop touching me and leave NOW before I kick her ass. He said I said it in a scary, calm voice that chilled him to the bone. He got her out of there!
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Post by Bobomommy on Sept 7, 2021 19:47:47 GMT
Regarding the three hour video, I am guessing that it spanned a three hour time period. They probably fast-forwarded to each time the teacher interacted with her child. Watching it that way would only take a few minutes to view.
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Post by Merge on Sept 7, 2021 19:49:22 GMT
Look, as a mom, I get it. I'd want to punch the teacher, too. If she did what is described, it's indefensible and illegal. Teacher should absolutely be prosecuted.
But if the mom walks free, parents get the message that when you're mad at a teacher for some reason, assault is an acceptable option.
We don't do vigilante justice in this country for a reason.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 7, 2021 20:00:49 GMT
I would want more facts, although I would not be surprised if the teacher was doing something that she shouldn’t have been doing. It sounds like they were both in the wrong.
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Post by pinklady on Sept 7, 2021 20:24:19 GMT
From just what I’ve read in the OP, I’m perfectly fine with what the mother did. Anyone who repeatedly assaults a 2 year old baby deserves the same treatment.
This was not just a parent “mad” at a teacher and to equate it to that is absurd.
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Post by Merge on Sept 7, 2021 20:33:52 GMT
From just what I’ve read in the OP, I’m perfectly fine with what the mother did. Anyone who repeatedly assaults a 2 year old baby deserves the same treatment. This was not just a parent “mad” at a teacher and to equate it to that is absurd. You and I may be able to see the difference between physically harming a child and, say, giving them normal consequences or using a sharp tone, but I guarantee you there are parents who do not make that distinction.
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 7, 2021 20:33:56 GMT
Regarding the three hour video, I am guessing that it spanned a three hour time period. They probably fast-forwarded to each time the teacher interacted with her child. Watching it that way would only take a few minutes to view. And it was after Brooks watched the repeated assaults and was told the teacher would face no discipline that the director took her/allowed her to go to the classroom. I'm not sure how premeditated the assault was. I can believe Brooks snapped and the adrenaline flowed the second she was face to face with the teacher. Not saying it is right, and there shouldn't be some consequence, but I'd like to know more.
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Post by muggins on Sept 7, 2021 20:55:06 GMT
I admit I would find it very difficult to keep my hands off someone who had repeatedly assaulted my child. But I find it odd that a childcare provider was alone with a two year old for all that time. There are usually multiple assistants present to take care of preschoolers.
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Post by birukitty on Sept 7, 2021 20:57:02 GMT
As a mother I understand why the mother in this news story felt the way she did, but to act on it was wrong in my opinion. Had it been me I would have been LIVID and would have wanted to beat that teacher too, but treating violence with violence never works. I would have instead gotten a copy of that tape-made one with my Iphone if that's what it took.
I would have then grabbed my child and removed him from the school and gone straight to the police station to file a report with the evidence in hand. I would have hired a lawyer immediately and would have followed his/her advice in regards to whether or not to take this to the media. All of this with the goal of getting the teacher and the administrators at that school fired and to never be able to work with children again. The superiors at the school are just as guilty as the teacher in my mind because they allowed it to happen and didn't stop it. This is sick, abusive ongoing violence against a child that should never have happened! Especially of a very small child like a 2 year old who is non-verbal and can't tell his parents about what has happened at home.
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Post by twinks on Sept 7, 2021 21:11:03 GMT
My then 9th grader was body slammed by 3 teachers and pinned to the ground until the resource officer arrived. When released she did what any other person would do - she ran out of the room. What did she do to deserve this treatment? She went into the teachers office to call me to come get her because she couldn’t get any help with her Math. We had already received over 10 emails from this teacher requesting that I keep her home for various reasons. She started to go out of the building so the teacher requested the resource officer handcuff her, which he did. He called me and I have never heard my DD so upset and it is something that haunts me to this day. I immediately called an attorney, physician, and our councilor. That was the last day my daughter attended public school. Was I angry? Yes! I remember being so extremely angry that I couldn’t stop shaking and crying. Yes the teachers tried to cover it up. Yes the Principal supported the teachers. The more they tried to cover it up, the angrier I became. It was all I could do to contain myself from going all momma bear on the head teacher. I used to scrub my kitchen floor on my hands and knees and picture myself scrubbing this person’s face off the surface of the earth. It was several years but I brought due process against the teacher and the school district and prevailed with an unprecedented settlement. My DD suffered from PTSD for a long time. She succeed in school and is succeeding in life despite what happened. I believe in karma and karma did eventually come to bite this person in the butt.
There are ways to get your point across without resorting to violence. It is like yelling at your child to stop yelling at you. It doesn’t work. I am in no way saying that the teacher and the administrator in this situation didn’t deserve it. I don’t know if I could have watched my child being treated like this child was treated. But I also know that assault isn’t the answer. I wish this Mom well but more importantly, I hope her child can overcome what has happened and that he receives a good education and succeeds in life.
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