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Post by Merge on Sept 12, 2021 19:54:09 GMT
Apparently Biden has told Schumer and Pelosi that he’s ready to put pressure on the holdouts to get voting rights legislation passed.
I do wonder what’s taken him so long, but it’s nice to have the confirmation. I’ve been told here on this very board that it can’t be done. 🙄
Someone else can mark this politics if they want. I’m punk rock today and not following any rules. 😂
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 12, 2021 19:57:00 GMT
You're doin' just fine!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 12, 2021 20:17:03 GMT
I hope that he can, but I don’t see the leverage. If he can do it, great! 👏🏻
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 12, 2021 20:38:48 GMT
Machine got knocked around all morning with his EXXON connections..... Dana Bash confronted him outright!!
An opponent in WV said that the "dirty little secret of Manchin owned by EXXON" is well known in WV...
Let try to round up some links...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 12, 2021 20:41:08 GMT
Appearing on MSNBC's "The Sunday Show" with host Jonathan Capehart, the co-chair of WV Can't Wait dropped the hammer on Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) for blocking a desperately needed stimulus bill that would provide welcome relief to his constituents. *** "Look, here's the secret that every West Virginian knows: Joe Manchin, the rest our congressional delegation, they do not represent the working people of West Virginia," he accused. "They never have, they never will. That's because, up until now, you don't win high office in West Virginia because you serve the people; you win high office in West Virginia because you serve Exxon, because you serve out-of-state landowners, bankers and corporate lawyers."www.rawstory.com/joe-manchin-obstruction/ |
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 12, 2021 20:42:54 GMT
Machine got knocked around all morning with his EXXON connections..... Dana Bash confronted him outright!! An opponent in WV said that the "dirty little secret of Manchin owned by EXXON" is well known in WV... Let try to round up some links... I saw the link on Twitter, but didn’t watch it. I’ll find it and watch. Any time that Manchin gets confronted is a good day. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 12, 2021 20:44:53 GMT
CNN's Dana Bash throws charges he's 'bought and paid for by corporate donors' in Joe Manchin's face Tom Boggioni September 12, 2021 A combative Sen. Joe Manchin (D) defended himself on CNN's "State of the Union" after host Dana Bash repeated accusations made by a fellow Democrat that he is in the pocket of big business and lets them write policies and legislation. *** (In reference to AOC talking about his connections with Exxon and big oil etc vvvv.) Absolutely not, " he shot back. "I keep my door open for everybody. That's totally false. Those type of superlatives, it's just awful, that continue to divide, divide. I don't know that young lady really well. I met her one time between sets but that's it. We've not had any conversations. she's speculating and saying things." "She's not the only one," Bash parried. "I'm sure you've heard a number of fellow Democrats say you're opposed to this because you're bought and paid for by corporate donors." www.rawstory.com/joe-manchin-donors/ |
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Post by Merge on Sept 12, 2021 21:31:21 GMT
I hope that he can, but I don’t see the leverage. If he can do it, great! 👏🏻 It always comes down to money and power. McConnell certainly had no trouble reeling in Collins and Murkowski when he needed to. Let’s have some of that energy. |
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 12, 2021 21:38:52 GMT
I hope that he can, but I don’t see the leverage. If he can do it, great! 👏🏻 It always comes down to money and power. McConnell certainly had no trouble reeling in Collins and Murkowski when he needed to. Let’s have some of that energy. knowledge comes in too. Like Finnick from the Hunger Games, if you know the skeletons... Maybe Biden was preoccupied with other items and pushes it back a little...I can hope, right? I've started writing my senators (both D) and congressman (asshole) calling them all out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 21:53:47 GMT
Let’s have some of that energy. I don't think it's that easy w/Manchin. I have no doubt he'd turn GOP and we'd lose the majority. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 12, 2021 22:18:16 GMT
Let’s have some of that energy. I don't think it's that easy w/Manchin. I have no doubt he'd turn GOP and we'd lose the majority. Ding ding ding - We have a winner! Add to that he is in the pocket of Republican gas & oil donors which will pay handsomely for him to stop the forward movement of the Democratic agenda because they see it as a threat to their livelihood. Doesn’t matter if it’s the $3.5T infrastructure plan or the VRA part two. Can’t have all those Democrats voting for solutions to climate change. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 12, 2021 22:32:16 GMT
Let’s have some of that energy. I don't think it's that easy w/Manchin. I have no doubt he'd turn GOP and we'd lose the majority. If he’s going to keep voting with the Republicans, what good is having him on our side? Let him show what he is. The people of West Virginia elected a Democrat, twice. If that’s not what he is, let him show it. Biden and Schumer can also deny WV funding for projects that Manchin would campaign on in 2024. The DNC can run a primary candidate against him. It can also run a massive voter turnout campaign - less than half of West Virginians turned out in 2018. They can even go so far as to pressure Exxon, which relies a lot on federal goodwill for its profits. Clearly Biden thinks he’s got something he can use to pressure them. Or at least he’s willing to make the attempt instead of hanging Texas and other red states out to dry as some of y’all would like. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 12, 2021 22:34:07 GMT
It always comes down to money and power. McConnell certainly had no trouble reeling in Collins and Murkowski when he needed to. Let’s have some of that energy. knowledge comes in too. Like Finnick from the Hunger Games, if you know the skeletons... Maybe Biden was preoccupied with other items and pushes it back a little...I can hope, right? I've started writing my senators (both D) and congressman (asshole) calling them all out. Yeah it may be that they’ve found dirt on one or both of them. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 12, 2021 23:16:38 GMT
I hope that he can, but I don’t see the leverage. If he can do it, great! 👏🏻 It always comes down to money and power. McConnell certainly had no trouble reeling in Collins and Murkowski when he needed to. Let’s have some of that energy. Yes, and I wish that I could be a fly on the wall during those meetings. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 12, 2021 23:43:21 GMT
Mergewas that necessary? I have donated more to your chosen candidates then I have to ours here in NJ.
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Post by Merge on Sept 12, 2021 23:45:54 GMT
Merge was that necessary? I have donated more to your chosen candidates then I have to ours here in NJ. Why do you think it was directed at you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 0:05:53 GMT
I don't think it's that easy w/Manchin. I have no doubt he'd turn GOP and we'd lose the majority. If he’s going to keep voting with the Republicans, what good is having him on our side? Let him show what he is. The people of West Virginia elected a Democrat, twice. If that’s not what he is, let him show it. Biden and Schumer can also deny WV funding for projects that Manchin would campaign on in 2024. The DNC can run a primary candidate against him. It can also run a massive voter turnout campaign - less than half of West Virginians turned out in 2018. They can even go so far as to pressure Exxon, which relies a lot on federal goodwill for its profits. Clearly Biden thinks he’s got something he can use to pressure them. Or at least he’s willing to make the attempt instead of hanging Texas and other red states out to dry as some of y’all would like. The committees Setting the agenda. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 13, 2021 0:59:38 GMT
If he’s going to keep voting with the Republicans, what good is having him on our side? Let him show what he is. The people of West Virginia elected a Democrat, twice. If that’s not what he is, let him show it. Biden and Schumer can also deny WV funding for projects that Manchin would campaign on in 2024. The DNC can run a primary candidate against him. It can also run a massive voter turnout campaign - less than half of West Virginians turned out in 2018. They can even go so far as to pressure Exxon, which relies a lot on federal goodwill for its profits. Clearly Biden thinks he’s got something he can use to pressure them. Or at least he’s willing to make the attempt instead of hanging Texas and other red states out to dry as some of y’all would like. The committees Setting the agenda. None of which does any good if we can't get a single agenda item through. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 1:14:26 GMT
The committees Setting the agenda. None of which does any good if we can't get a single agenda item through. I disagree. If the GOP gets the committee agendas it will be nothing but red meat hearings to the idiotic culture warrior base. |
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Post by lucyg on Sept 13, 2021 1:25:53 GMT
I have to say I’m with @zingermack on this one. No matter how useless and annoying Manchin can be, better we keep him a Democrat. You think things are bad now? Just wait till Mitch McConnell is majority leader again.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 13, 2021 1:41:14 GMT
I have to say I’m with @zingermack on this one. No matter how useless and annoying Manchin can be, better we keep him a Democrat. You think things are bad now? Just wait till Mitch McConnell is majority leader again. And lots of hearings on Afghanistan, probably Benghazi level. Probably no possibility of a Democratic nominee for the SC if a vacancy opens. And Manchin is tap dancing on my last nerve. But it’s still better than Republicans running the show. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 13, 2021 1:48:18 GMT
Well, we can all hope Biden has something on him or something to use as leverage. Manchin is not doing us any good at all. And I still don't understand how Mitch kept Collins and Murkowski under his thumb, but Schumer can't do the same with Manchin and Sinema. It seems to be the Democrats' great failing. We're afraid of our own shadows, it seems.
I at least find it hopeful that Biden has reportedly brought it up.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 13, 2021 1:58:19 GMT
Well, we can all hope Biden has something on him or something to use as leverage. Manchin is not doing us any good at all. And I still don't understand how Mitch kept Collins and Murkowski under his thumb, but Schumer can't do the same with Manchin and Sinema. It seems to be the Democrats' great failing. We're afraid of our own shadows, it seems. I at least find it hopeful that Biden has reportedly brought it up. I can’t understand it either. I know that Mitch is ruthless, and sometimes I wonder if Schumer is too nice. I have no basis for it, but I do wonder. Time to turn the screws on Manchin and Sinema. |
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