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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 1:31:30 GMT
Yeah yeah I know this is one of those “there she goes again” threads.
But I tell you that unless there is a miracle in the 9th inning the Republicans are going to deliberately tank the economy.
The debt limit needs to be increased. Mitch McConnell has already said Republicans in the Senate won’t vote to increase the debt limit, the Democrats are on their own.
And if I’m not mistaken the Democrats joined the Republicans in increasing the debt limit under former.
But yet, while the country is still struggling to get out of this pandemic the Republicans, by not increasing the debt limit. Well to describe what will happen…
From CNN Business
“ The easiest way to spark a financial crisis and wreck the US economy would be to allow the federal government to default on its debt it would be an epic unforced error - and millions of Americans would pay the price.”
Now why would a political party do that to the country especially when it’s struggling to shake off the effects of the pandemic? Which they are helping to prolong by their actions involving the vaccine & mask mandates.
So the only conclusion one can draw is they really really hate this country. I mean seriously what else can you think.
I do understand the importance of bringing down our debt and have said as much to the annoyance of some progressives on the board. But this pandemic has knocked us on our ass and this is the time to spend money. And not the time to default on the debt.
If you have Republican Senators now would be a good time to give them a ringy-dingy and tell them to vote for that increase in the debt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 1:41:09 GMT
It's a bluff. Their buddies in hedge funds and the market makers will blow a gasket if the US defaults.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 22, 2021 1:46:51 GMT
It's a bluff. Their buddies in hedge funds and the market makers will blow a gasket if the US defaults. Lordy, I hope so. Mitch McConnell might be even more dangerous than Donald Trump. |
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Post by cycworker on Sept 22, 2021 1:50:25 GMT
It's a bluff. Their buddies in hedge funds and the market makers will blow a gasket if the US defaults. Lordy, I hope so. Mitch McConnell might be even more dangerous than Donald Trump. Oh he is FAR more dangerous, because he's smarter |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 1:57:04 GMT
I hope it’s a bluff but I’m not holding my breath.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 22, 2021 2:07:09 GMT
On another note they don't care how many of their followers die from Covid, but they are also trying to blame Biden for their deaths.
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Post by sideways on Sept 22, 2021 2:16:55 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country.
They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich.
By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine.
Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden.
They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, gay, trans, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 2:26:46 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country. They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich. By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine. Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden. They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power. The uber rich and big business will take a big hit if the the economy tanks enough to drive this country into not a recession but a depression. |
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Post by sideways on Sept 22, 2021 2:28:45 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country. They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich. By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine. Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden. They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power. The uber rich and big business will take a big hit if the the economy tanks enough to drive this country into not a recession but a depression. What better thing for republicans to blame on Biden and Democrats. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 2:51:19 GMT
Nope, no matter how you spin it with the Republicans blaming the Democrats if things go south, bottom line is the Republicans hate this country and want to destroy it. That’s it, end of discussion as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by sideways on Sept 22, 2021 3:08:51 GMT
Nope, no matter how you spin it with the Republicans blaming the Democrats if things go south, bottom line is the Republicans hate this country and want to destroy it. That’s it, end of discussion as far as I’m concerned. Um…okay. Not “spinning” anything. I thought this was a discussion. My bad…I guess. |
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Post by ntsf on Sept 22, 2021 3:31:27 GMT
rachel did a good show on the debt ceiling today.. a useless law that was enacted during WW1.. time to get rid of it with the filibuster
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 22, 2021 4:42:54 GMT
Nope, no matter how you spin it with the Republicans blaming the Democrats if things go south, bottom line is the Republicans hate this country and want to destroy it. That’s it, end of discussion as far as I’m concerned. Republicans also seem to lack the ability to see the big picture so I wouldn’t doubt if they haven’t considered all the consequences of their actions beyond making democrats look bad. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2021 10:23:23 GMT
Nope, no matter how you spin it with the Republicans blaming the Democrats if things go south, bottom line is the Republicans hate this country and want to destroy it. That’s it, end of discussion as far as I’m concerned. Um…okay. Not “spinning” anything. I thought this was a discussion. My bad…I guess. Lol!!! Your first post was spot on! It’s all about power, keeping it, controlling America. Republicans KNOW everything they do is unpopular and sucks so the only way to stay in control is to sabotage everything and blame the Democrats. I’m sick to death of Democrats being soft on their tactics too. They need to go radical, |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 22, 2021 10:41:09 GMT
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Post by sideways on Sept 22, 2021 13:55:55 GMT
Um…okay. Not “spinning” anything. I thought this was a discussion. My bad…I guess. Lol!!! Your first post was spot on! It’s all about power, keeping it, controlling America. Republicans KNOW everything they do is unpopular and sucks so the only way to stay in control is to sabotage everything and blame the Democrats. I’m sick to death of Democrats being soft on their tactics too. They need to go radical, I am too. I’ve been saying for years, screw “when they go low, we go high.” That has gotten us NOWHERE. When they go low, we need to fucking bury them. (disclaimer before the pearl-clutchers get their panties in a twist: It’s a figure of speech. Im not advocating for murder. Though, with all the bullshit republicans are pulling, I am getting closer to that point.<—- kidding again. A little.) |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 22, 2021 14:00:30 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country. They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich. By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine. Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden. They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, gay, trans, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power. Republicans in office don't care about their constituents, they care about their own power. And it sickens me. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 22, 2021 14:10:02 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country. They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich. By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine. Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden. They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, gay, trans, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power. Republicans in office don't care about their constituents, they care about their own power. And it sickens me. This year that fact has been painfully obvious to anyone who actually pays attention. Just look at all the republicans in both the house and senate who have voted against literally everything that has come through that would actually help many people (even all the white, straight, male citizens) in their states. And yet those very citizens that would be helped by these bills continue to vote for those ass clowns to stay in office in every election. But yet the democrats are the demons. 🙄 It is truly mind boggling. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 22, 2021 14:13:16 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Sept 22, 2021 14:14:55 GMT
It’s not that they hate this country. They LOVE power and hate Democrats. They don’t give a shit about Americans. Unless they’re uber rich. By not raising the debt ceiling, republicans are trying to sabotage Biden and the Democratic Party. If the economy gets fucked up, they will blame Biden and every serving Democrat for it. They think that will make them look better for 2022 and 2024. It doesn’t matter to them if the economy tanks. The rich will be fine. Just like covid right now. The more people who die, the more they can try to blame Biden. They thirst for power and don’t care what they ruin to get it. Even if it’s this country. They want to institute their own kind of government anyways. Where white reigns supreme, women, POC, gay, trans, and non-Christians are second class citizens, and they and their rich friends just gain more money and power. Republicans in office don't care about their constituents, they care about their own power. And it sickens me. And the people who vote for them are too fucking stupid to comprehend it. The level of ignorance of republican voters is astounding. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 22, 2021 14:49:32 GMT
Pretty much. Darwinism in action. |
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Post by Montannie on Sept 22, 2021 16:33:24 GMT
Not Montana, Idaho. But we're right there, too. The biggest hospital system in Montana has issued their Crisis Care standards as a warning, I think. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 22, 2021 16:42:09 GMT
Not Montana, Idaho. But we're right there, too. The biggest hospital system in Montana has issued their Crisis Care standards as a warning, I think. So sorry. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 17:01:41 GMT
And yet those very citizens that would be helped by these bills continue to vote for those ass clowns to stay in office in every election. The power of beliefs over reality and reason. Cults are powerful. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 17:09:47 GMT
Nope, no matter how you spin it with the Republicans blaming the Democrats if things go south, bottom line is the Republicans hate this country and want to destroy it. That’s it, end of discussion as far as I’m concerned. I was in a discussion, had just posted response to it and was busy pounding out another when I dawned on me this thread was going in a direction I didn’t necessarily want it to go and I was helping it. So I deleted what I was working on and the post I was just posted. Its a no brainer that the Republicans will blame everything that goes wrong on Democrats even if they are the cause. It’s a no brainer the Republicans are grabbing as much power as they can, anyway they can. But what’s their endgame? I could never come up with an answer to that until yesterday when I read two little sentences and things started click into place. The Republicans in Congress have pretty much been sabotaging the Federal Government for years. After the ACA was passed the only real legislation that has been passed was done in crisis mode. Well other than former’s tax cut. And the road block was and is the Republicans. It’s amazing McConnell could still fit inside his office with all the bills Pelosi got passed in the House and sent to the Senate where they just sat there in McConnell’s office. So to speak. Then COVID-19 appeared. From the very beginning that should have been “rally around the fly moment with sayings like we are all in this together”. But from the very beginning trump had other ideas and eventually he and not only the Republicans in Congress but Republican States turned this into a political football and another change to own the “libs”. Now we have a debt ceiling that needs to be increased or the economy will tank. And the Republicans in the Senate, at least at this point, have said they will not vote for increasing the limit. Each of the three examples are hurting and will hurt the people and the country. And in the case of COVID it’s actually killing people. The collateral damage for this power grab and indifference to governing is high. Are the Republicans that callous or do they think it’s worth the price if they can each their ultimate goal. Which is? Then I read those two sentences. A date has been set at the Supreme Court to pretty much determine if Roe v Wade lives or dies. I was reading tweet that said what the date was. Then went on to say there are two lawyers writing I think it’s called an amicus brief to start the ball rolling to overturn same sex marriages. Get rid of abortions and get rid of same sex marriages. Then it hit me. The Republicans don’t want/like a country where women can get abortions or where two men or two women can get married, or a country that doesn’t have a white majority. So, IMO, they have no problem destroying that country if they think they can “build back better” to steal a Biden Slogan. But they are taking an awful risk if they think they can build back the country they way they want it or any way for that matter. But they don’t care and any group that is willing to destroy a country must really hate it. IMO. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 19:00:04 GMT
IMO unless they change their mind and vote for increasing the debt limit, they have gone way past scoring political points or sticking to the Dems, they just flat out hate this country.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 22, 2021 19:17:02 GMT
Former speaks, let's see if they jump.. Donald Trump called on Senate Republicans to shut down the government as leverage to block the "horror" of Democratic legislation. "The way I look at it, what the Democrats are proposing, on so many different levels, will destroy our Country. Therefore, Republicans have no choice but to do what they have to do, and the Democrats will have no choice but to concede all of the horror they are trying to inflict upon the future of the United States." "Unrelated, but likewise, their so-called 'Voting Rights Bill' will be the end of our Democracy," the ex-president added. "Don't give up or concede, Republicans, this is the ultimate representation of the People!" www.rawstory.com/freedom-to-vote-act/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 22, 2021 23:25:23 GMT
It’s really amazing a bolt of lighting doesn’t come of the sky and strike this man.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 22, 2021 23:40:13 GMT
It's a bluff. Their buddies in hedge funds and the market makers will blow a gasket if the US defaults. Lordy, I hope so. Mitch McConnell might be even more dangerous than Donald Trump. McConnell is unfit for the position that he holds. The man is a cold-blooded hypocrite who consistently puts party before country, and who loves power more than the constitution. |
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