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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2021 16:04:25 GMT
11-15-2021
This column is the subject of today’s poll.
As time goes by more and more comes out about what trump & his minions did “behind closed doors”.
And as more and more comes out about trump’s actions it makes it very clear he should never had been elected President or should ever be elected President again. But yet, read the last paragraph of this column.
From Max Boot in the Washington Post…
“Opinion: A newly disclosed memo reveals Trump’s plot to turn the military into his personal goon squad”
By Max Boot Columnist Today at 8:00 a.m. EST
I want to apologize to Mark T. Esper, former president Donald Trump’s fourth and second-to-last defense secretary. I may have been too harsh on the man who became known as “Yesper” for accommodating Trump. As I noted in March: “He did not vocally protest pardons for war criminals, the use of the defense budget to build a border wall or the withdrawal of troops from Germany.” But now that we have seen fresh evidence of how much Trump and his henchmen loathed Esper, he is rising in my estimation.
That evidence comes courtesy of ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl, who has unearthed a memorandum from Johnny McEntee, Trump’s director of presidential personnel, listing 14 reasons for ousting Esper. That document was dated Oct. 19, 2020. Three weeks later Esper was fired by a Trump tweet.
The very premise of McEntee’s memo was both sinister and ludicrous — a 30-year-old of no professional or intellectual distinction, whose path to power was carrying Trump’s bags, was making the case for getting rid of a senior Cabinet officer for insufficient loyalty to the president. This revealing and chilling document deserves to be read not as a historical curiosity but as a terrible portent of what could be in store if Trump wins another term. He appears determined to turn the military into his personal goon squad.
One of McEntee’s first complaints was that Esper had “approved the promotion of Lt. Col. [Alexander] Vindman, the start [sic] witness in the sham impeachment inquiry, who told Congress that the President’s call with Ukraine ‘undermined U.S. national security.’” No one has challenged the veracity of Vindman’s testimony, which was delivered under oath. Yet Trump, acting through McEntee, seemed intent on carrying out what Vindman described in a Post op-ed as “a campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation” for daring to tell the truth.
The next item in the indictment of Esper: “Publicly opposed the President’s direction to utilize American force to put down riots just outside the White House.” This was a reference to Esper’s brave decision in June 2020 to resist Trump’s desires to deploy active-duty troops to suppress Black Lives Matter protests.
Esper acted after he and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had been lured by Trump into a bizarre photo op in Lafayette Square, which been cleared by force of peaceful protesters. Milley subsequently apologized and reminded military personnel that they are pledged to defend the Constitution, including “the right to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly.” This was presumably what sparked another of McEntee’s grievances against Esper: “Has failed to exercise oversight of the Joint Staff.”
McEntee further indicted Esper for acting to remove a symbol of racism and sedition — the Confederate flag — from military installations. He was upset, moreover, that the defense secretary had ruled out attacks “on cultural sites in Iran if the conflict escalated, despite the President wanting to keep that option open.” Attacking cultural sites would have been a war crime — but, according to McEntee, Esper should have been willing to commit a war crime at Trump’s direction.
McEntee also criticized Esper for spending too much time focused on competition with Russia. Left unstated was that Trump seems to hero-worship Russian President Vladimir Putin, who helped him win the 2016 election. Esper’s other transgressions of Trumpism included insufficient support for Trump’s capricious and discriminatory “transgender ban”; contradicting “the President in SEAL Eddie Gallagher’s case” (Trump reversed Gallagher’s demotion despite accusations he had committed war crimes); and dissenting from “the President’s decision to withdraw troops from Germany.” (McEntee gave a new Pentagon appointee working for Esper’s replacement, Christopher Miller, an isolationist to-do list that consisted of withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Germany.)
The most damning and telling grievance against Esper was near the bottom of this pathetic document: “When he assumed his role, he vowed to be apolitical.” Normally being apolitical is a sine qua non for leading the armed forces. That’s why President Biden chose retired Gen. Lloyd Austin as defense secretary and President Barack Obama decided to keep Republican Robert M. Gates in the post. But Trump tried to destroy the professional, apolitical ethos of the armed forces — and if given the opportunity, he will almost certainly do so again.
Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker recounted in their book “I Alone Can Fix It” Milley’s well-grounded worries after the election about Trump’s mounting a coup. “They may try, but they’re not going to f---ing succeed,” the general reportedly told a friend. “You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with guns.”
Well, the next time around, Trump would want to ensure that the “guys with guns” are on his side. If he wins a second term, Trump’s next defense secretary (Johnny McEntee perhaps?) would almost certainly be somebody more devoted to him than to the Constitution. For anyone concerned about the future of U.S. democracy, that should be a cause of considerable alarm at a time when Trump and Biden are running almost neck and neck in polling matchups.”
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2021 17:18:22 GMT
Good!
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2021 18:42:31 GMT
We have reached a point we don’t need any more drilling of new oil wells. So good.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2021 20:11:31 GMT
Seriously this man is a real asshole.
Notice how he is threatening the President the AG, & members of Congress. According to the Republicans he is just exercising his First Amendment right of Freedom of Speech.
If someone said this stuff to a Republican President, AG, & members of Congress the Republicans would be falling all over themselves claiming is was a threat and they need to be held accountable.
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Post by anonaname on Nov 15, 2021 20:33:32 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 15, 2021 20:56:54 GMT
Looks who's back. More conspiracy theories about the vaccine?
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2021 21:13:32 GMT
He did do that didn’t he.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 15, 2021 21:56:33 GMT
Mandated vaccines are not new. 1796 Washington ordered all troops to get small pox vaccine. Talk working experimental... But it sure worked.
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Post by anonaname on Nov 15, 2021 23:59:34 GMT
Looks who's back. More conspiracy theories about the vaccine? "A federal appeals court on Friday reaffirmed its earlier decision to freeze the Biden administration's vaccine mandate, calling the requirement for large employers to make sure its employees are vaccinated against Covid-19 "staggeringly overbroad." In a blistering 22-page opinion, the Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals said that the vaccine mandate issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is "fatally flawed" and both "overinclusive" and "underinclusive." "Indeed, the Mandate's strained prescriptions combine to make it the rare government pronouncement that is both overinclusive (applying to employers and employees in virtually all industries and workplaces in America, with little attempt to account for the obvious differences between the risks facing, say, a security guard on a lonely night shift, and a meatpacker working shoulder to shoulder in a cramped warehouse) and underinclusive (purporting to save employees with 99 or more coworkers from a 'grave danger' in the workplace, while making no attempt to shield employees with 98 or fewer coworkers from the very same threat)," the court wrote." www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-appeals-court-reaffirms-its-decision-to-freeze-bidens-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQFml2
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 16, 2021 0:21:21 GMT
No one is disputing the situation with the legal case regarding Biden's mandates working its way through the courts. Although, I will point out this www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055194418/a-lottery-could-determine-the-fate-of-bidens-vaccine-rule-for-84-million-workersThe 5th Circuit Court of Appeals based in New Orleans, which temporarily halted the OSHA rule on Nov. 6 and then reaffirmed that decision on Nov. 12, is known as one of the most conservative in the country. The three-judge panel that stayed the OSHA rule is the same panel that allowed Texas's strict anti-abortion law to stand in September.
The Biden administration has urged companies to prepare to comply with the OSHA rule while the various petitions wind their way through the courts. If the court that "wins" the lottery lifts the stay, companies will need to quickly determine which of their employees are vaccinated, which ones are not, and enforce a mask mandate for the unvaccinated starting Dec. 6.
Also, there is a lot of legal precedent for vaccine mandates and it may ultimately be upheld in court. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-mandate-strong-supreme-court-precedent-510280news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/vaccine-mandates-withstand-challenges-as-lawsuits-proliferatewww.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211012/why-mandates-hold-up-in-courtwww.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-s-covid-vaccine-mandate-plan-constitutional-whatever-his-gop-ncna1279086In more recent cases, vaccine mandates were upheld, although they involved universities. constitutioncenter.org/blog/current-constitutional-issues-related-to-vaccine-mandatesIn a recent lawsuit, a federal court declined to grant an injunction against a public university’s vaccine mandate. Eight Indiana University students had sued the school over a mandatory vaccine policy that blocked students from registering for class if they were not vaccinated. Under the university policy, students could apply for a medical or religious exemption if they agreed to wear masks and undergo Covid-19 testing. On August 2, 2021, a federal appeals court upheld a lower court ruling in favor of the university, finding there was not enough evidence that the students’ constitutional rights were being violated; the decision may be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Another recent lawsuit filed by a law professor at George Mason University has challenged that school’s vaccine mandate as well.I am disputing your crackpot conspiracy theories regarding the vaccine and Nuremburg which have been thoroughly debunked.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2021 1:17:49 GMT
Oh well..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 16, 2021 1:44:14 GMT
Will it ever end?
At least Alex Jones is losing all his cases ....
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 16, 2021 2:02:41 GMT
We have reached a point we don’t need any more drilling of new oil wells. So good. Love this. I’ve only been there a couple of times but there is just something about that area snd it should be protected.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2021 3:38:43 GMT
All sarcasm aside did trump ever actually make a deal? Other then the tax cuts that is.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 16, 2021 3:47:03 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2021 16:02:09 GMT
11-19-2021
Immigration is a worldwide problem. And it’s going to get worse.
So how about instead of those critics of VP Harris getting all hysterical because she doesn’t do photo ops at the Rio Grande they put on their thinking caps and come up with a solution for the problem that doesn’t include treating these folks like they are less then human.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 16, 2021 16:42:23 GMT
Before the water cannons were used, people were suffering from the cold. In fact some have died from the cold. Inhumane.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2021 18:19:48 GMT
No wonder this country has so many problems with fools like this mouthing off.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2021 18:23:20 GMT
What a surprise…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 16, 2021 20:00:42 GMT
CRT disappeared just like former's massive caravans.
Brooks and Tuberville will be a great pair for Alabama.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 16, 2021 22:30:56 GMT
White Nevada voter fraud punished, got probation and a fine even though he did cast two votes.. Black lady who never got to vote, jailed. Trump supporter who voted twice using late wife's ballot gets sentenced to probation John Wright November November 17, 2021 Hartle cast a ballot on behalf of his wife, Rosemary, who died in 2017. Hartle later claimed that someone else had used his wife's ballot to vote, and the case was cited by the Nevada Republican Party and conservative activists as evidence of widespread voter fraud. Donald "Kirk" Hartle, 55, was also fined $2,000, after pleading guilty to one count of voting more than once in the same election, Las Vegas' Channel 8 reports. Hartle had faced up to four years behind bars before reaching a deal with prosecutors to avoid jail. www.rawstory.com/trump-supporter-voter-fraud/
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 16, 2021 22:40:22 GMT
Looks who's back. More conspiracy theories about the vaccine? "A federal appeals court on Friday reaffirmed its earlier decision to freeze the Biden administration's vaccine mandate, calling the requirement for large employers to make sure its employees are vaccinated against Covid-19 "staggeringly overbroad." In a blistering 22-page opinion, the Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals said that the vaccine mandate issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is "fatally flawed" and both "overinclusive" and "underinclusive." "Indeed, the Mandate's strained prescriptions combine to make it the rare government pronouncement that is both overinclusive (applying to employers and employees in virtually all industries and workplaces in America, with little attempt to account for the obvious differences between the risks facing, say, a security guard on a lonely night shift, and a meatpacker working shoulder to shoulder in a cramped warehouse) and underinclusive (purporting to save employees with 99 or more coworkers from a 'grave danger' in the workplace, while making no attempt to shield employees with 98 or fewer coworkers from the very same threat)," the court wrote." www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-appeals-court-reaffirms-its-decision-to-freeze-bidens-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQFml2Just wanted to add this update and this information. Again, no one is disputing the facts of the court case. I just wanted to derail another potential vaccine conspiracy from you. www.npr.org/2021/11/16/1056121842/biden-lawsuit-osha-vaccine-mandate-court-lotteryIt will now be up to the 6th circuit to decide whether to lift the stay issued by the 5th Circuit. The Biden administration has repeatedly asserted that it has the authority to act in an emergency to protect workers facing "grave danger" on the job. Administration officials frequently cite the high death toll from Covid — now topping 760,000 in the U.S. alone. OSHA estimates the rule could save some 6,500 lives and prevent 250,000 hospitalizations over a six-month period.The White House is urging companies to prepare to comply with the rule's requirements, which include a Dec. 6 deadline for employers to identify which workers are vaccinated or not, and to enforce a mask mandate. Even if the the 6th Circuit weighs in quickly, it's likely the decision will be appealed and the litigation could continue for some weeks and months. Ultimately, the case could wind up in the Supreme Court.
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Post by anonaname on Nov 16, 2021 22:50:46 GMT
"A federal appeals court on Friday reaffirmed its earlier decision to freeze the Biden administration's vaccine mandate, calling the requirement for large employers to make sure its employees are vaccinated against Covid-19 "staggeringly overbroad." In a blistering 22-page opinion, the Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals said that the vaccine mandate issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is "fatally flawed" and both "overinclusive" and "underinclusive." "Indeed, the Mandate's strained prescriptions combine to make it the rare government pronouncement that is both overinclusive (applying to employers and employees in virtually all industries and workplaces in America, with little attempt to account for the obvious differences between the risks facing, say, a security guard on a lonely night shift, and a meatpacker working shoulder to shoulder in a cramped warehouse) and underinclusive (purporting to save employees with 99 or more coworkers from a 'grave danger' in the workplace, while making no attempt to shield employees with 98 or fewer coworkers from the very same threat)," the court wrote." www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-appeals-court-reaffirms-its-decision-to-freeze-bidens-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQFml2Just wanted to add this update and this information. Again, no one is disputing the facts of the court case. I just wanted to derail another potential vaccine conspiracy from you. www.npr.org/2021/11/16/1056121842/biden-lawsuit-osha-vaccine-mandate-court-lotteryIt will now be up to the 6th circuit to decide whether to lift the stay issued by the 5th Circuit. The Biden administration has repeatedly asserted that it has the authority to act in an emergency to protect workers facing "grave danger" on the job. Administration officials frequently cite the high death toll from Covid — now topping 760,000 in the U.S. alone. OSHA estimates the rule could save some 6,500 lives and prevent 250,000 hospitalizations over a six-month period.The White House is urging companies to prepare to comply with the rule's requirements, which include a Dec. 6 deadline for employers to identify which workers are vaccinated or not, and to enforce a mask mandate. Even if the the 6th Circuit weighs in quickly, it's likely the decision will be appealed and the litigation could continue for some weeks and months. Ultimately, the case could wind up in the Supreme Court. Cool cool cool. Guess Biden is just another one to break his promises. I remember in 2001/02 when liberals were the bastion of freedom fighting against Bush and the Patriot Act, saying how if we were so afraid we didn't deserve freedom. Now medical tyranny is actually a thing and not a peep out of any of you. You just fall in line. You all are so disappointing. Bodily integrity is a human right (among others) and is protected BY the Constitution, not granted to us by the government.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 16, 2021 23:07:09 GMT
Biden said that in December 2020 and the situation has changed dramatically since then. Delta was not a concern back then. In addition, there was no way to anticipate the extent of the anti-vax segment of the population. The administration tried lots of other ways to encourage people to get vaccinated. First they tried the carrot approach by rewarding people, making access to the vaccine easier etc. The administration offered people time off work, help with transportation, state lotteries, cash gift cards etc. Then they tried encouraging people on a local level through trusted sources. But a significant number of people - mostly Republicans- simply refused to get vaccinated. So, we're stuck with the stick. And you may not like them, but mandates do work. www.npr.org/2021/09/29/1041221961/why-biden-has-taken-up-vaccine-mandates-and-the-political-fight-over-themFor months, President Biden resisted COVID-19 vaccination mandates because he didn't want to make the vaccines any more politicized than they already were.
But when the delta variant surged, and it became clear that most of the hardcore vaccine resistance was partisan, Biden leaned into America's newest culture war: the great mandate debate.Body integrity does not apply when your body integrity risks the lives of people around you. As far as court cases, with the exception of the Biden Administration one regarding private employers which is on hold, so far vaccine mandates have been upheld. Courts have decided they are constitutional. This sums it up much better than I can www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/civil-liberties-and-vaccine-mandates-heres-our-take/Far from compromising civil liberties, vaccine mandates actually further them. They protect the most vulnerable among us, including people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated, and communities of color hit hard by the disease. Do vaccine mandates violate civil liberties? Some who have refused vaccination claim as much. We disagree.
At the ACLU, we are not shy about defending civil liberties, even when they are very unpopular. But we see no civil liberties problem with requiring Covid-19 vaccines in most circumstances.
While the permissibility of requiring vaccines for particular diseases depends on several factors, when it comes to Covid-19, all considerations point in the same direction. The disease is highly transmissible, serious and often lethal; the vaccines are safe and effective; and crucially there is no equally effective alternative available to protect public health.
In fact, far from compromising civil liberties, vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most vulnerable among us, including people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated and communities of color hit hard by the disease.
Vaccine requirements also safeguard those whose work involves regular exposure to the public, like teachers, doctors and nurses, bus drivers and grocery store employees. And by inoculating people from the disease’s worst effects, the vaccines offer the promise of restoring to all of us our most basic liberties, eventually allowing us to return safely to life as we knew it, in schools and at houses of worship and political meetings, not to mention at restaurants, bars, and gatherings with family and friends.
Here’s why civil liberties objections to Covid vaccine mandates are generally unfounded. Vaccines are a justifiable intrusion on autonomy and bodily integrity. That may sound ominous, because we all have the fundamental right to bodily integrity and to make our own health care decisions. But these rights are not absolute. They do not include the right to inflict harm on others.
While vaccine mandates are not always permissible, they rarely run afoul of civil liberties when they involve highly infectious and devastating diseases like Covid-19. Although this disease is novel, vaccine mandates are not. Schools, health care facilities, the U.S. military and many other institutions have long required vaccination for contagious diseases like mumps and measles that pose far less risk than the coronavirus does today.
In the United States alone, more than 39 million people have been infected with Covid-19 and more than 600,000 people have died. People with intellectual and physical disabilities are more likely to contract Covid-19, and they have much higher rates of hospitalization and death. Children’s hospitals in Georgia, Louisiana and other states are reporting high admissions of infected patients, and many are running out of beds.
Even though the F.D.A. and independent medical experts have found Covid-19 vaccines to be extremely safe and highly effective, a sizable portion of the eligible population has chosen not to be vaccinated. In this context, Covid-19 vaccine mandates — much like mask mandates — are public health measures necessary to protect people from severe illness and death. They are therefore permissible in many settings where the unvaccinated pose a risk to others, including schools and universities, hospitals, restaurants and bars, workplaces and businesses open to the public.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 17, 2021 1:27:48 GMT
McCarthy is such an idiot.
He didn’t mean any harm - he took it down - he didn’t see it before it posted
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 17, 2021 2:56:46 GMT
There will be a floor vote for censure tomorrow and to remove Gosar from all committees.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 17, 2021 2:58:11 GMT
The best fiction writers in the world can’t make this stuff up.
Rachel talked about this on her show tonight. The reason Powell wanted to get the head of the CIA was because according to Powell the head of the CIA was in Germany tracking down some computer so she could change the votes in the United States Presidential Election to give Biden the win.
And then there are those who keep showing up in Dallas with the beliefs JFK jr will magically come back from the dead to be trump’s runn8ng mate in the 2024 Presidential.
The scary thing about all this is these people vote.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 17, 2021 2:59:32 GMT
Let us not forget PPE, testing kits, and that stuff..... Trump claims no supply chain problems during his administration despite infamous toilet paper shortages,John Wright November 15, 2021 Former President Donald Trump is falsely claiming there were no issues with the U.S. supply chain during his administration. In an interview with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell that aired Tuesday night, Trump accused President Joe Biden of "destroying our country." You look at every single thing, even the supply chains. Did you hear even a question of a problem with the supply chain?" Trump said, referring to his time in office. Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway made the same false claim during an appearance on Fox News earlier this month. www.rawstory.com/trump-supply-chain/
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 17, 2021 4:14:44 GMT
Republican attempts to rewrite history are so incredibly frustrating and annoying.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 17, 2021 14:52:07 GMT
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