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Post by Hayjaker on Oct 23, 2021 19:10:34 GMT
It’s hard to watch but damn. Dying out of spite and stubbornness is really hard to understand. The Go Fund Me and money requests after refusing the free thing that would have saved you, just galling. I hope her kids and loved ones, friends learned something and got their vaccines. Yes. Dying out of spite and stubbornness. Heartbreaking and confounding.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 19:20:12 GMT
It’s hard to watch but damn. Dying out of spite and stubbornness is really hard to understand. The Go Fund Me and money requests after refusing the free thing that would have saved you, just galling. I hope her kids and loved ones, friends learned something and got their vaccines. Yes. Dying out of spite and stubbornness. Heartbreaking and confounding. I never thought I'd see the day that people would actually be willing to DIE to mark their participation in their "science is the enemy" tribe.
The vax is "poison" but Covid is, what, a fluffy bunny?
What a time we are living in.
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Post by mellyw on Oct 23, 2021 22:57:04 GMT
And all the people who need hospital care for other things like cancer. DH spent the night in the ER when the hospital had no beds. Yes, I am bitter! Right there with you - my father spent 15 hours waiting for a bed because of idiots like these. Not covid related - unfortunately other medical conditions didn't choose to pause because there's a pandemic and dumbasses chose not to be vaccinated. I honestly could have just wheeled their asses to the curb - you don't believe in medicine - what the fuck are you here for now? I'm over it. So so over it. Honestly, besides getting COVID, my running in second place on my fear list are needing emergency care right now. My body seems to enjoy doing weird, complicated medical nosedives that land me in the ER. My body is a hot damn mess of medical conditions, but I’ve never been so grateful that it hasn’t done anything needing ER care (or honestly, hospitalization) during this pandemic. Darcy Collins and Mikklyn, I hope all your family is recovering well My DD calls on her way home to get things out after a bad night (she’s a night shift ICU nurse), so I’ve known how this effects people. So we were all grateful my DH’s grandmother passed from COVID in her sleep and was never hospitalized. Received my booster the day after the CDC advised them for immunocompromised people. Certainly wasn’t going to mess around with that
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 0:06:38 GMT
I hope your mom has a mild case and makes a full recovery. As for the story in the OP- I feel bad for any vaccinated person who couldnt get a hospital bed while this twatwaffle was taking up one. And all the people who need hospital care for other things like cancer. DH spent the night in the ER when the hospital had no beds. Yes, I am bitter! Prayers to your sweet mom. I also hope that she recovers quickly. Sorry to sound harsh, but this family fights hard for our safety. I was waiting for this stupid, stupid woman to finally warn people to get the vaccine. What was her Reasoning?? She went to an ER, got all kinds of meds that she never read up on, so, WHY is just this vaccine so evil? These deniers beg medical personnel to help them in the end, and all they needed were 2 free vaccines. Who was she supposedly fighting against the vaccine for??? Even the biggest dumbass, TFG, got his vaccines. I just don't understand their logic, and now her bills will be absorbed by us having higher costs in hospitals. She left her 4 children without a mother, why??? Did they all believe she was a hero, fighting against science, the CDC, etc??? **She wound up getting meds and had science intervene to try to save her stupid ass.** I juxtapose this with DH and hundreds of other cancer patients we've met at Moffitt who valiantly fought a real fight. Makes me so angry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 0:12:30 GMT
That was terrifying. I just booked my booster after watching that. I just booked mine too, along with my flu shot. 2 weeks apart?? That's what I was told by doctors and pharmacists. I'll get my booster and then my flu shot 2 week later.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 24, 2021 0:36:42 GMT
I just booked mine too, along with my flu shot. 2 weeks apart?? That's what I was told by doctors and pharmacists. I'll get my booster and then my flu shot 2 week later. You can get the flu shot at the same time as the booster. CDC etc has said that all along. I got my flu shot 2 days after the booster....no issues at all
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Post by CeeScraps on Oct 24, 2021 0:40:35 GMT
I had my flu shot last week and booster last night.
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 24, 2021 1:05:09 GMT
I just booked mine too, along with my flu shot. 2 weeks apart?? That's what I was told by doctors and pharmacists. I'll get my booster and then my flu shot 2 week later. Mine are advising it’s ok to get both together. But you may have a medical history or be taking medication that is the reasoning behind their specific advice to you.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 24, 2021 2:02:39 GMT
2 weeks apart?? That's what I was told by doctors and pharmacists. I'll get my booster and then my flu shot 2 week later. You can get the flu shot at the same time as the booster. CDC etc has said that all along. I got my flu shot 2 days after the booster....no issues at all I am at 7 months out from second Pfizer. I got my flu shot last week. Yes you can get them at the same time.. but I didn't want to risk both arms in pain etc.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 24, 2021 2:28:59 GMT
You can get the flu shot at the same time as the booster. CDC etc has said that all along. I got my flu shot 2 days after the booster....no issues at all I am at 7 months out from second Pfizer. I got my flu shot last week. Yes you can get them at the same time.. but I didn't want to risk both arms in pain etc. I had the Covid shot in the left arm in the flu shot in the right and had no reaction really from the flu shot other than my arm was hot for maybe 12 hours.
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Post by drummergirl65 on Oct 24, 2021 3:50:26 GMT
I've gotten my third shot and will be getting the flu shot next week. So just over a couple weeks apart. As for this woman, she should have saved her dying breathes for encouraging people to get vaccinated, but no. It is infuriating! I know a few people like her. I finally shut down my Facebook as I would get so angry I thought it would be better for my mental health to get rid of it.
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Post by ellen on Oct 24, 2021 13:37:55 GMT
Oh God, I said that I wasn't going to worry about unvaccinated people who get really sick with Covid. This weekend I found out that someone I like is in a situation of struggling to get an ICU bed and needs a vent. He and his family did not get the vaccine for religious reasons. He is a really good teacher and both my daughters had him. I got to know him better when my youngest daughter was a cheerleader for the basketball team and his son was playing. That son is now in college and he gave Covid to his dad. I really want him to get better.
But I'm also annoyed that he didn't get vaccinated. He is currently taking up a hospital bed in a small rural community about an hour from where we live. There are no beds available at our much larger hospital. There are no ICU beds available in our whole section of the state. How many people will not be able to get the medical care they need because the unvaccinated people are using up the resources in the hospitals? This could have all been avoided. The dumb asses around here who refuse to get vaccinated will instead blame the medical care he received - the wrong kind, administered too late. They will also say that the problems with getting a hospital bed are because nurses had to quit because they refused to get vaccinated and now they can't staff them. They'll feel bad for him and his family, but it won't happen to them because they trust their immune systems. And if he lives through this, then it probably wasn't all that bad after all. I'm so sick of them all enabling each other.
Last night I booked an appointment for a booster shot on Tuesday - the earliest I could get in.
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Post by paulao on Oct 24, 2021 14:10:42 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need.
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Post by purplebee on Oct 24, 2021 14:28:38 GMT
I agree with those that lay the blame on trump and his cult. Never before has a disease been as politicized as COVID.. If someone else - anyone else - had been elected President in 2016, I have no doubt that the United States would now be a much better place. It is absolutely horrifying (and almost unbelievable) when you stop and think of what is STILL happening here because of one corrupt individual’s desire for power and fame. I put him on the same scale as Hitler.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 24, 2021 14:43:35 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. I get the sentiment, but that is a slippery slope. We all know that smoking, drugs, alcoholism, obesity, are risk factors for a myriad of health issues but we don't advocate them not getting health care. I often say the same thing (antivaxxers should stay the hell home) but then back off a little. But I don't feel sorry when they get sick. I feel sorry for their families
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 24, 2021 14:48:47 GMT
Ugh and anytime there is a pro science post on fb these idiots come out of the water
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Post by tincin on Oct 24, 2021 14:52:58 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. I get the sentiment, but that is a slippery slope. We all know that smoking, drugs, alcoholism, obesity, are risk factors for a myriad of health issues but we don't advocate them not getting health care. I often say the same thing (antivaxxers should stay the hell home) but then back off a little. But I don't feel sorry when they get sick. I feel sorry for their families I don’t see these as being alike at all. I know quite a few obese people and smokers who would love to get a couple of injections that would enable them to stop gaining weight or to stop smoking. The people choosing not to get a vaccine for Covid is completely different and I agree with the people who say stay home and die because medical personnel is over taxed by fools like you.
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Post by gizzy on Oct 24, 2021 14:55:21 GMT
I have thought about this lady since watching this yesterday. It was hard to watch her progress. I'm sorry for her family and most importantly her children. I hope a relative is able to take them all in.
I feel for the nurses and Drs.
With this being on tiktok, hopefully many people will see it and learn from her mistake and go get vaccinated.
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 24, 2021 14:56:34 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. I get the sentiment, but that is a slippery slope. We all know that smoking, drugs, alcoholism, obesity, are risk factors for a myriad of health issues but we don't advocate them not getting health care. I often say the same thing (antivaxxers should stay the hell home) but then back off a little. But I don't feel sorry when they get sick. I feel sorry for their families I agree with you. As much as I would love to feel vengeance, I also think we have a responsibility to care for our whole community. Even the fucking idiots, unfortunately. That said, "religious" exemptions should be challenging to get. Very challenging.
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 24, 2021 16:09:22 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. There aren’t any. The only two denominations who have issues with vaccines are Dutch Reform and ironically, Christian Science.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 24, 2021 16:21:26 GMT
Yes. Dying out of spite and stubbornness. Heartbreaking and confounding. I never thought I'd see the day that people would actually be willing to DIE to mark their participation in their "science is the enemy" tribe.
The vax is "poison" but Covid is, what, a fluffy bunny?
What a time we are living in.
That’s what I really don’t get at all with these people. They’re willing to get Covid and possibly get very sick or even die in a truly horrific way vs. getting a vaccine that has been given to literally billions of people for a year with overwhelmingly little incident? Oh, and DH asked his friend about his adult DD who works in a hospital that was mandating their employees get vaccinated by Nov. 1st or get fired. She wasn’t going to get it, and DH was curious what happened there. His friend said, “Oh, she has a religious exemption.” Yeah, okay. They’re all Catholic, and even the freaking POPE is telling people to get vaccinated so I don’t know WTH is going on there. His friend’s DD is in her early 50’s, is extremely obese and has other related health issues, so my guess is if she did contract Covid it wouldn’t end well for her.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 24, 2021 16:28:14 GMT
There is a large church/Christian school locally that is handing out exemptions like candy on Halloween
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Post by christine58 on Oct 24, 2021 16:37:13 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. There aren’t any. The only two denominations who have issues with vaccines are Dutch Reform and ironically, Christian Science. Well then how are some healthcare workers and others who are being mandated to get the vaccine being allowed to claim religious reason??
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 24, 2021 16:44:33 GMT
There aren’t any. The only two denominations who have issues with vaccines are Dutch Reform and ironically, Christian Science. Well then how are some healthcare workers and others who are being mandated to get the vaccine being allowed to claim religious reason?? Shitbird internet doctors.
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 24, 2021 16:46:10 GMT
There is a large church/Christian school locally that is handing out exemptions like candy on Halloween At least in IL, a DOCTOR must sign off on religious exemptions for vaccines in schools. Obvs, the COVID one doesn't count in that yet, because kids in IL aren't required to get it. Yet. That said, there are Hollywood Upstairs Medical College graduates who are willing to sign off on religious exemptions.
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 24, 2021 16:47:34 GMT
There aren’t any. The only two denominations who have issues with vaccines are Dutch Reform and ironically, Christian Science. Well then how are some healthcare workers and others who are being mandated to get the vaccine being allowed to claim religious reason?? I have no idea. Based on the public leadership stances of all denominations, most shouldn’t be able to at all, unless they’re Dutch Reform or Christian Science. What most of them are doing is the equivalent of conscientiously objecting. I can only guess that these hospitals are facing staffing challenges or something, and so are being overly accommodating on them, as a result. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by nicolep on Oct 24, 2021 16:54:56 GMT
There is a large church/Christian school locally that is handing out exemptions like candy on Halloween There is an attorney in my city who will write out a religious exemption for any family who has a child that doesn't want to wear a mask in our city school district. 🙄
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 24, 2021 17:05:50 GMT
I'd love to see companies add a surcharge to insurance and a bi-weekly testing mandate if you are not vaccinated.
Ds works for a company and their open enrollment is now. It is $50 extra per month without vaccine
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 24, 2021 17:21:43 GMT
There is a large church/Christian school locally that is handing out exemptions like candy on Halloween There is an attorney in my city who will write out a religious exemption for any family who has a child that doesn't want to wear a mask in our city school district. 🙄 I mean really, so much for separation of church and state. 😵💫
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 24, 2021 17:31:41 GMT
I'd love to see companies add a surcharge to insurance and a bi-weekly testing mandate if you are not vaccinated. Ds works for a company and their open enrollment is now. It is $50 extra per month without vaccine Self insured companies have a ton of leeway to do things like that. The amount of them adding stop loss to their coverage has been interesting to observe. Stop loss costs extra for self-insured plans though, so I’m sure that’s what the extra monthly premiums are for. They still have to account for potential expensive hospital stays amongst the unvaxxed employees in their claim projections.
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