Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Oct 24, 2021 17:47:04 GMT
Another posthumous Herman Cain Award recipient. The ignorant, stubborn pride is mind boggling.
Thanks for posting this. Maybe someone will watch and change their mind about the vaccine.
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Post by thundergal on Oct 24, 2021 18:57:59 GMT
I'm stunned by what I just watched.
Why does she not seem to care that she's dying?
The nerve to ask for money.
The nerve to be frustrated that she couldn't get admitted to the hospital.
I wish I could personally thank and hug the medical care professionals who cared for her. She praises them for taking such excellent care of her. From where do they get that grace? From where do they get that patience and compassion? Where would we be without them??
Just an absolutely useless bout of suffering and death. Fucking insane to me.
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Post by paulao on Oct 24, 2021 21:01:24 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. I get the sentiment, but that is a slippery slope. We all know that smoking, drugs, alcoholism, obesity, are risk factors for a myriad of health issues but we don't advocate them not getting health care. I often say the same thing (antivaxxers should stay the hell home) but then back off a little. But I don't feel sorry when they get sick. I feel sorry for their families
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Post by paulao on Oct 24, 2021 21:03:43 GMT
I would love to know the religious reasons for not getting COVID vaccine. Even the Pope has said there are no religious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, unvaccinated people with COVID should be denied hospital beds. They can be sick at home. I've just about had it with COVID becoming political/religious. You want to die on that hill, die, but do not take up resources that sick people who have been vaccinated need. I get the sentiment, but that is a slippery slope. We all know that smoking, drugs, alcoholism, obesity, are risk factors for a myriad of health issues but we don't advocate them not getting health care. I often say the same thing (antivaxxers should stay the hell home) but then back off a little. But I don't feel sorry when they get sick. I feel sorry for their families I get what you are saying, but obesity, smoking, etc are lifestyles that have to be changed and involve a myriad of issues. A COVID vaccine is one or two shots that are free and easily available.
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The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Oct 24, 2021 21:10:32 GMT
I'm stunned by what I just watched. Why'd does she not seem to care that she's dying? The nerve to ask for money. The nerve to be frustrated that she couldn't get admitted to the hospital. I wish I could personally thank and hug the medical care professionals who cared for her. She praises them for taking such excellent care of her. From where do they get that grace? From where do they get that patience and compassion? Where would we be without them?? Just an absolutely useless bout of suffering and death. Fucking insane to me. I understand why she is asking for money—it’s the only thing she has left that she can try to control in her last hours, but the disaffected way she speaks (and it’s not just the lack of o2) is disturbing. She’s not even surprised she got it or is that sick. It’s almost like she accepts it and a “natural” death is better than getting the vaccine. The brainwashing was complete with that one. RIP
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 21:38:01 GMT
DH has a great-niece who married into a MAGA family. No one got their vaccines in that family. The patriarch of the family (only 52 years old, if I recall correctly) got Covid the same time that his wife got it. He ended up having to go to the ER, and in just a few days he passed away. In reading ALL of the comments on his Facebook page, the majority of his friends and family were all blaming the HOSPITAL for the Covid deaths!!!!!!! I was in shock. I keep waiting for the families to finally "get it" and do some good by admitting that this person would still be alive if he had gotten the vaccines...... but, NO! They blame science, the medical field, the hospital, etc.
It seems to be acceptable to these people to get the ICU help and meds when they get scared enough. Do they know what's in the IV bags or meds?? Why is that okay but the vaccines aren't? I just will NEVER understand them.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Oct 24, 2021 22:14:30 GMT
I have very little sympathy for these people.
A IG Reel that came across my discovery page was another anti vaxx woman, who said she "just didn't have any time to do her vaccine research (she is a farmer btw), so she didn't get the vaccine". Well she ended up with covid and was on oxygen. In her follow up video, she did admit what she DID NOT take into consideration about not getting the vaccine was:
How detrimental it was to her young kids to see her almost dying of covid How much work she missed and the income that comes along with it She thought she was very healthy and strong and would be able to fight it off because she has strong immunity - she was wrong
I wish I knew who the person was to see their follow up now. Anyone see this too on IG Reels?
We have friends that all have covid right now. They are anti -vaxx (We didn't know that until they told us) The dad has asthma, the mom has some chronic pain back issues, they have a special needs teen and they have a child under 12. It is so infuriating and even more so to see their complaint on social media that they couldn't be see right away at the ER.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Oct 24, 2021 22:19:18 GMT
Why do anti-vaxxers go to the hospital and believe in that kind of science. I just don't get it. If you don't believe in science, don't go to the doctor or the hospital.
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jeanninem
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Post by jeanninem on Oct 24, 2021 22:55:54 GMT
That's just so sad. Took me a day to watch, said I don't need to see a stranger take her final breaths. But I just needed to see how someone could still justify not getting the vaccine when they are sick. Or at least she did in the beginning. At some point did she understand what was happening and that the poison shot could have saved her life. Was there regret? Or did she just double-down on ignorance? Either way, 4 children without a mom. I really struggle to understand how so many people view the shot as poison, government over-reach or not needed. The same people are living their best life as if there is no Covid. But they all come running to the same science they have denied to save them from dying.
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2021 23:03:52 GMT
At some point did she understand what was happening and that the poison shot could have saved her life. Was there regret? Or did she just double-down on ignorance? Either way, 4 children without a mom. I really struggle to understand how so many people view the shot as poison, government over-reach or not needed. The same people are living their best life as if there is no Covid. But they all come running to the same science they have denied to save them from dying. That's what I want to know too. At what point does the understanding come that they are going to die, they're going to destroy their family, and it could have been prevented if only they weren't so fucking stupid.
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Post by Merge on Oct 25, 2021 0:40:24 GMT
At some point did she understand what was happening and that the poison shot could have saved her life. Was there regret? Or did she just double-down on ignorance? Either way, 4 children without a mom. I really struggle to understand how so many people view the shot as poison, government over-reach or not needed. The same people are living their best life as if there is no Covid. But they all come running to the same science they have denied to save them from dying. That's what I want to know too. At what point does the understanding come that they are going to die, they're going to destroy their family, and it could have been prevented if only they weren't so fucking stupid. Since the entire point of this political belief system is performative lib-owning, none of the rest of it matters. I swear these people will have "At least I owned the libs" engraved on their headstones. I wonder if the DNC came out with a statement that said, "Yep, you owned us, we all feel owned," if they would stop dying on purpose.
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jeanninem
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Post by jeanninem on Oct 25, 2021 0:53:44 GMT
That's what I want to know too. At what point does the understanding come that they are going to die, they're going to destroy their family, and it could have been prevented if only they weren't so fucking stupid. Since the entire point of this political belief system is performative lib-owning, none of the rest of it matters. I swear these people will have "At least I owned the libs" engraved on their headstones. I wonder if the DNC came out with a statement that said, "Yep, you owned us, we all feel owned," if they would stop dying on purpose. Trump was vaccinated, albeit secretly. But he eventually admitted it and made a half-hearted attempt at an Alabama rally in August to tell followers to "take the vaccine", but even he received boos. I think the anti-everythings (vaccine, voting rights, abortion rights, CRT, and on and on) are so far gone and so delusional that I'm not sure we will ever recover what was lost, certainly not lives.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 25, 2021 0:56:39 GMT
I'm stunned by what I just watched. Why'd does she not seem to care that she's dying? The nerve to ask for money. The nerve to be frustrated that she couldn't get admitted to the hospital. I wish I could personally thank and hug the medical care professionals who cared for her. She praises them for taking such excellent care of her. From where do they get that grace? From where do they get that patience and compassion? Where would we be without them?? Just an absolutely useless bout of suffering and death. Fucking insane to me. I am torn between pity and anger. Mostly anger, if I’m honest. So many people can’t get care because of people like her who refused to do a simple, free thing that probably would have saved her life. I’m so angry that she did this to herself, but that video was both maddening and sad. It’s insane that someone would choose death over vaccination.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 25, 2021 0:59:22 GMT
Since the entire point of this political belief system is performative lib-owning, none of the rest of it matters. I swear these people will have "At least I owned the libs" engraved on their headstones. I wonder if the DNC came out with a statement that said, "Yep, you owned us, we all feel owned," if they would stop dying on purpose. Trump was vaccinated, albeit secretly. But he eventually admitted it and made a half-hearted attempt at an Alabama rally in August to tell followers to "take the vaccine", but even he received boos. I think the anti-everythings (vaccine, voting rights, abortion rights, CRT, and on and on) are so far gone and so delusional that I'm not sure we will ever recover what was lost, certainly not lives. This is so true. They are so far down the <Socialist, vaccines make you magnetic/no, they embed a microchip in you> wormhole that I doubt that they will ever find their way out.
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Post by smasonnc on Oct 25, 2021 3:33:37 GMT
Anti-vaxxers spout this all the time, but obese people and alcoholics don’t infect others with a deadly disease.
I’m pi$$ed because I got a breakthrough case. After six weeks, I’m still not back to normal. I’m pi$$ed because my daughter is working half to death caring for people like her. At her hospital, ICU has a limited number of patients, but she’s in ER so she has to take care of all the ones ICU doesn’t have beds for without any limit.
People like Ms. Tiktok Antivax Panhandler, walking around spreading disease and yammering about their rights, kept this virus mutating. No sympathy when one of them collects their Herman Caine Award.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 25, 2021 3:38:35 GMT
And the jerks didn't even believe it when Ivanka got her vaccine. She posted it on Twitter, I think. I know I saw it somewhere..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 3:49:36 GMT
Why do anti-vaxxers go to the hospital and believe in that kind of science. I just don't get it. If you don't believe in science, don't go to the doctor or the hospital. Amen. ps -
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Post by MissBianca on Oct 25, 2021 13:31:25 GMT
I finally watched the video last night. I could not round up any kind of sympathy for her and her stupidness.
The only people I feel sorry for are the hospital workers who are stuck taking care of someone like that. They all go directly to sainthood in my eyes. I honestly don’t think I could do it. I also feel sorry for her minor children. I doubt she allowed the 15 year old to get vaccinated and she wouldn’t have vaccinated the 7 year old when the time comes. Those poor kids have no choice but to deal with their mothers stupidity.
And on a slightly off topic rant, is life insurance just not a thing anymore? The woman is begging people for money for her kids and her medical bills, which more than likely would not have been an issue if she had just gotten the vaccine. But I see it constantly, people always asking for money for funerals and future care of kids. We get ours through DH’s work. I have a policy for each of the kids, myself, and DH. Is life insurance not through your job really that expensive?
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casii
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Post by casii on Oct 25, 2021 13:53:49 GMT
I finally watched the video last night. I could not round up any kind of sympathy for her and her stupidness. The only people I feel sorry for are the hospital workers who are stuck taking care of someone like that. They all go directly to sainthood in my eyes. I honestly don’t think I could do it. I also feel sorry for her minor children. I doubt she allowed the 15 year old to get vaccinated and she wouldn’t have vaccinated the 7 year old when the time comes. Those poor kids have no choice but to deal with their mothers stupidity. And on a slightly off topic rant, is life insurance just not a thing anymore? The woman is begging people for money for her kids and her medical bills, which more than likely would not have been an issue if she had just gotten the vaccine. But I see it constantly, people always asking for money for funerals and future care of kids. We get ours through DH’s work. I have a policy for each of the kids, myself, and DH. Is life insurance not through your job really that expensive? Specifically on the life insurance policy. I've been dismayed to find many women don't have one for themselves. Considering the many roles women perform in the family, their value is irreplaceable, but many only consider funeral costs and don't carry life insurance. Mind boggling.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 25, 2021 14:12:24 GMT
Maybe, just maybe they might pay attention to this study... They really can't afford to lose brain cells.. documented more losses from having Covid!!!! Trouble with remembering things, finding words and processing new information are among the long-term cognitive problems that appear to be occurring more frequently than previously thought after severe Covid-19 cases, according to a new study. *** The long-term cognitive effects of Covid-19 are part of a whole series of health complaints with which former coronavirus patients have to struggle. *** Overall, the patients most often suffered from problems with remembering and memorizing things - this affected almost one in four people in the study. This was followed by word-finding problems or a generally slower speed in processing information. The study did not include patients who had no contact with medical staff. nordot.app/825324904949104640
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Post by birdy on Oct 25, 2021 14:15:49 GMT
Idiot! No sympathy for her!!! DH and I were saying, those that have gotten the vaccine and still caught covid should get the beds in the ER, ICU or hospital floors. Those that didn't could be set up on cots in a mass area like a convention center or something like that. For those that absolutely can't have the vaccine for medical reasons, I do have sympathy for them though!
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Post by jenb72 on Oct 25, 2021 14:28:11 GMT
I have zero sympathy left for the anti vaxxers. I do feel for their loved ones. I blame the unvaccinated for the continuing spread that has now infected my sweet 84 year old mother. I'm so sorry to hear about your mother. Sending good thoughts that she recovers soon. Jen
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Post by auntkelly on Oct 25, 2021 14:42:01 GMT
Why do anti-vaxxers go to the hospital and believe in that kind of science. I just don't get it. If you don't believe in science, don't go to the doctor or the hospital. I saw a doctor on the news one night say that many of the covid patients he treats in ICU are saying with their last breath "I'm still glad I didn't get the vaccine because it is experimental." Yet, the same patients have no problem whatsoever with all the drugs they are treating them with in the ICU, most of which are experimental.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 14:53:59 GMT
Yet, the same patients have no problem whatsoever with all the drugs they are treating them with in the ICU, most of which are experimental. They've lived w/cognitive dissonance all their lives, why should Covid be any different for them than all the other nonsensical positions they hold?
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Post by auntkelly on Oct 25, 2021 15:12:16 GMT
Yet, the same patients have no problem whatsoever with all the drugs they are treating them with in the ICU, most of which are experimental. They've lived w/cognitive dissonance all their lives, why should Covid be any different for them than all the other nonsensical positions they hold? One of my anti-vax relatives told me the other day told me she had recently had poison ivy and treated it with an over the counter ointment. I was dying to say "What ingredients were in the poison ivy ointment? Can you explain to me exactly how the ointment works? I assume you researched it as thoroughly as you did the vaccine. I know you would never be so naive as to take the medical community's word that the ointment was safe w/out doing the research yourself. Are you sure the ointment won't change your DNA or cause infertility?"
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Post by Merge on Oct 25, 2021 15:19:26 GMT
I finally watched the video last night. I could not round up any kind of sympathy for her and her stupidness. The only people I feel sorry for are the hospital workers who are stuck taking care of someone like that. They all go directly to sainthood in my eyes. I honestly don’t think I could do it. I also feel sorry for her minor children. I doubt she allowed the 15 year old to get vaccinated and she wouldn’t have vaccinated the 7 year old when the time comes. Those poor kids have no choice but to deal with their mothers stupidity. And on a slightly off topic rant, is life insurance just not a thing anymore? The woman is begging people for money for her kids and her medical bills, which more than likely would not have been an issue if she had just gotten the vaccine. But I see it constantly, people always asking for money for funerals and future care of kids. We get ours through DH’s work. I have a policy for each of the kids, myself, and DH. Is life insurance not through your job really that expensive? I don't get it, either. Even when we were beans-and-rice for dinner, Goodwill-shopping poor, we carried enough life insurance on both of us to pay for our funerals and help family with the expense of raising our kids. When you're young and healthy, it's cheap. People just don't think of it, I guess.
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Post by sideways on Oct 25, 2021 17:52:26 GMT
I just booked mine too, along with my flu shot. 2 weeks apart?? That's what I was told by doctors and pharmacists. I'll get my booster and then my flu shot 2 week later. I got them at the same time. Covid shot in one arm, flu shot in the other.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 25, 2021 17:57:53 GMT
Honestly I couldn't watch. I skipped through a bit but even though I obviously think she made awful decisions and did not recognize that she made awful decisions, there is still so much of me that is empathetic to people who make awful decisions. If she did not endanger everyone around her, I don't think I'd even have complicated feelings -- I'd just feel badly for someone whose set of life experiences and decisions left them with this devastating result.
But of course people refusing to vaccinate does endanger people by making community spread more likely. It's so frustrating.
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Post by MissBianca on Oct 25, 2021 17:59:15 GMT
I finally watched the video last night. I could not round up any kind of sympathy for her and her stupidness. The only people I feel sorry for are the hospital workers who are stuck taking care of someone like that. They all go directly to sainthood in my eyes. I honestly don’t think I could do it. I also feel sorry for her minor children. I doubt she allowed the 15 year old to get vaccinated and she wouldn’t have vaccinated the 7 year old when the time comes. Those poor kids have no choice but to deal with their mothers stupidity. And on a slightly off topic rant, is life insurance just not a thing anymore? The woman is begging people for money for her kids and her medical bills, which more than likely would not have been an issue if she had just gotten the vaccine. But I see it constantly, people always asking for money for funerals and future care of kids. We get ours through DH’s work. I have a policy for each of the kids, myself, and DH. Is life insurance not through your job really that expensive? Specifically on the life insurance policy. I've been dismayed to find many women don't have one for themselves. Considering the many roles women perform in the family, their value is irreplaceable, but many only consider funeral costs and don't carry life insurance. Mind boggling. I haven’t worked in 25 years because we opted to have a parent stay home with the kids but I do have a policy on myself. DH used to travel 100% of the time and if something were to happen to me he would need help maintaining the household and taking care of the kids. He can’t stop working.
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Post by MissBianca on Oct 25, 2021 18:03:07 GMT
Maybe, just maybe they might pay attention to this study... They really can't afford to lose brain cells.. documented more losses from having Covid!!!! Trouble with remembering things, finding words and processing new information are among the long-term cognitive problems that appear to be occurring more frequently than previously thought after severe Covid-19 cases, according to a new study. *** The long-term cognitive effects of Covid-19 are part of a whole series of health complaints with which former coronavirus patients have to struggle. *** Overall, the patients most often suffered from problems with remembering and memorizing things - this affected almost one in four people in the study. This was followed by word-finding problems or a generally slower speed in processing information. The study did not include patients who had no contact with medical staff. nordot.app/825324904949104640This was me until I got my vaccine. We honestly believe we had Covid before it was a thing, DH had just come back from 2 back to back trips to CA and Ireland. And my sons co-workers mom worked in the hospital and they had a patient with flu like symptoms but kept testing negative for the flu. Her daughter got sick, my son got sick, then my whole family was sick. Then I started with the brain fog, forgetfulness, couldn’t even watch tv because I could not follow along. I thought it was just my ADHD and the stress of the lockdown. But it got better after my vaccine.
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