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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 16:54:37 GMT
My daughters would like to make Christmas tree ornaments for their gifts to family this year. (We plan a craft every year for them to make to give to grandparents, aunts, uncles). I am completely overwhelmed with all of the clay choices! Here is what we want to do and features we want in a clay: - one daughter wants to roll out clay into 1/3 inch, stamp into it, and cut out circles and stars. - one daughter wants to sculpt small basic shapes like acorns. - they may want to paint/seal their pieces - I think we want air dry clay! I know we do NOT want to use Crayola Model Magic, or a polymer clay like Sculpey. Can you recommend a (hopefully not too expensive) brand of air dry clay that I can order from Amazon or Dick Blick?Thank you! 
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 23, 2014 17:10:27 GMT
I haven't done it, but my mom used to make a salt dough with flour water and salt.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 23, 2014 17:17:41 GMT
Do you mind me asking why you are opposed to polymer clays that you bake, such as Sculpey?
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 23, 2014 17:29:41 GMT
I think Crayola's Model Magic would be perfect. It's mold able for the acorns, you can roll it out for the stamped cookie cutter cookies, you can paint it...
I used to buy it in a big tub with a coupon from Michael's. I still have creations from DD that are 10 plus years old. Double bag it in a zip bag if you don't use it all,
Sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:50:03 GMT
I don't want to use salt dough or model magic because they both crumble and dry up after a year or two.
I don't want to use Sculpey because of the volume of ornaments we need to make, it is too expensive. I also really don't want to deal with baking different things of different thicknesses, as that is a PITB with Sculpey. My 10 year old daughter has a huge stash of it and she uses it often, it's just not feasible for this specific project.
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Post by houston249 on Nov 23, 2014 17:56:30 GMT
This seems like the reviews you might be looking for www.ghoulfriday.com/clayshort but informative. Let us know how it works out. I also have been interested in dabbling with air dried clay.
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Post by bigbundt on Nov 23, 2014 19:34:01 GMT
You'll be fine with air dry clay. I used it to do handprint ornaments my daughter's first Christmas and they look exactly the same as they did the first year. My friends with older kids have used it and their ornaments are fine as well. I also like the matte texture and the weightiness it has. I'm sorry to hear about the Model Magic because we made fingerprint ornaments with them last year. Whoops!
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Post by aubs on Nov 23, 2014 19:34:52 GMT
I used air dry clay for some ornaments and they have held up about 2 years now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:34:55 GMT
You'll be fine with air dry clay. I used it to do handprint ornaments my daughter's first Christmas and they look exactly the same as they did the first year. My friends with older kids have used it and their ornaments are fine as well. I also like the matte texture and the weightiness it has. Do you have a favourite brand you could recommend?
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 23, 2014 19:44:48 GMT
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Post by bigbundt on Nov 23, 2014 20:19:50 GMT
We used the Crayola brand. Of course it is the only brand I have worked with so I don't exactly have anything else to compare it with.  Sorry, totally glossed over that you were looking for recommendations. 
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Post by aubs on Nov 23, 2014 20:23:02 GMT
I used Crayola too.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 23, 2014 20:30:06 GMT
I re-read your posts, and realized my post made no sense since I somehow missed the part about different thicknesses. Good luck with your projects--I hope you find something that works.
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Post by Lexica on Nov 24, 2014 4:57:21 GMT
I just had a huge long post describing the properties of multiple clays that you can make at home and their individual recipes. I went to grab the URL for the paper mache lady and the huge post was eaten. Damn. I don't feel like typing all that again so this is the highlights. Basically, there are three clays that I would recommend for this. Either porcelain clay or paper mache clay, or a combo of the two. I had recipes written for each type of clay, because I'm too cheap to by ready-made clay when you can make it yourself for pennies on the dollar. I don't buy polymer clay anymore, I use the porcelain clay instead. It works very well in molds and with little tools for carving and shaping. And if not for this effort, maybe look it up for future projects for your oldest daughter. I really prefer it to polymer clays for the price! Most of what I've been using it for is push molds. It holds the shape perfectly and it air dries. I'm including the website for the best paper mache recipe. This site also gives you the combo recipe. I haven't used the combo clay yet myself, but watch the video and see what you think. It looks very promising to me. The woman who is amazing with paper mache has come up with the combo recipe for something she is making that required more details than the paper mache would give you. She has a video showing how she made her first combo clay. Then she asked viewers for input. She added a second video showing the changes she made based on the input she received. The second type uses a homemade glue that I've never tried, so I'm not sure about that. I have a lot of Elmer's glue already, so I personally would just use the Elmers. The combo clay can be sanded to be super smooth, if that is important to the girls, but it also keeps the tiny designs you press into it very well. It seems like a great clay for the project your kids are doing. Material sources: The clay lady uses toilet paper as her paper source so it is very inexpensive if you go buy some cheap toilet paper. I don't use the stuff from my bathrooms because it costs more and why waste it? I buy my PVA glue at the hardware store by the gallon, Elmer's, because is it much cheaper than using little school-sized bottles. Both the hardware store and Walmart should carry both large containers of glue and the joint compound that you would need. You can make a couple of batches of clay for the girls really inexpensively with these recipes. If you are interested in making the porcelain clay, there are multiple recipes and videos on line. If you want to use Jonni's combo recipe, she has that on her site here: www.ultimatepapermache.comIf time permits, you might want to make a batch of the new combo and the porcelain clay and let the kids decide which works best. The glue is used in both recipes. The porcelain clay uses cornstarch and the clay uses toilet paper as main ingredients. Have fun and let me know if you have questions. I'll try to answer or point you to a site that can.
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 24, 2014 12:15:13 GMT
I don't want to use salt dough or model magic because they both crumble and dry up after a year or two. I don't want to use Sculpey because of the volume of ornaments we need to make, it is too expensive. I also really don't want to deal with baking different things of different thicknesses, as that is a PITB with Sculpey. My 10 year old daughter has a huge stash of it and she uses it often, it's just not feasible for this specific project. Hmmm. Like I said, DD's Model Magic creations are more than 10 years old and look like the day they were made. She made a bunch of tea cups and plates for her dolls, so they were played with, too. And I have a doorstop stop snowman that we made out of a brick in 2005? 2006? that used MM for the nose and it's perfect. They were even a little bit flexible. I wonder if there are different kinds of MM?
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Post by scrapnnana on Nov 24, 2014 12:25:43 GMT
One other suggestion (if you can find it) is LaDoll air drying clay. My DD and her DH used it to embellish wooden wands for a Harry Potter party, and they looked amazing! The wands were sanded slightly and painted, but you would swear they were of elegantly carved wood instead of shaped wooden dowels and air dry clay.
It's a little expensive, but I have bought it at a big box craft store with a coupon. I found it either at Michaels or AC Moore. JoAnn's didn't carry it.
ETA: I haven't actually used it yet, although I bought some for a project that I hope to make at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 16:52:22 GMT
Thank you so much for sharing all of that detailed information, Lexica! It's very helpful! I've read tutorials on making clay but don't know anyone "in person" who's actually tried it. I appreciate all of the recommendations. I think this would be a fun thing for us to do. @scrapnanna, I looked at that doll clay and wondered if it might be a good option. I think I'm going to buy a few small packages of different brands and we can just try them out and see what we think. And maybe we will give making our own clay a try over winter break.
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Post by Flowergirl on Nov 24, 2014 17:19:52 GMT
Just adding--we have some Model Magic ornaments that are 10+ years old too. I think we painted them and sealed them with a layer of Mod Podge. I liked MM because the finished product is lightweight and doesn't bend the tree branches down.
I think I'll check out Lexicas links too.
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