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Post by onelasttime on Nov 8, 2021 20:37:05 GMT
The article written by Steve Benen…
“The gap between the Democrats' rural problem and the party's solution”
“The New York Times reported over the weekend on a familiar political dynamic: The Democratic Party has a serious problem in rural areas.
In the jigsaw puzzle that is electoral politics, Democrats have often focused their energy on swingy suburbs and voter-rich cities, content to mostly ignore many white, rural communities that lean conservative. The belief was, in part, that the party had already bottomed out there, especially during the Trump era, when Republicans had run up the numbers of white voters in rural areas to dizzying new heights. Virginia, however, is proof: It can get worse.
The Washington Post ran a similar report on the same day.
The urban-rural divide is real and has gotten wider. Democrats have seen their future as one that runs through urban and suburban America, with a coalition that is increasingly diverse, younger and more liberal. What appeals to that rising Democratic Party, however, doesn't necessarily resonate with rural voters and sometimes drives them away. That's the conundrum for the party as it considers how to mend its rural deficiencies.
Politico had a report of its own on the issue, which was also published on Saturday, which also highlighted Democrats reaching "record-low shares of the vote" in small county after small county last week.
Throughout the Trump era, I kept an eye on the politics of farming financial strains, and the frustrations in agricultural areas in response to the Republican administration's trade policies. The more farm closures increased, the more ire was directed at the GOP president — especially as he told farmers to effectively take one for the team and accept financial hardship as a price worth paying for his trade agenda.
It was only natural to wonder whether Trump might face some kind of electoral backlash. The Republican White House assumed that wouldn't happen, and the officials who made that bet were correct: The Washington Post reported two years ago on "farm-state fury" over Trump's agenda and its effects on the agricultural industry, but the article added, "Many of those grumbling about Trump today concede they are unlikely to vote for a Democratic presidential candidate next year."
In other words, farmers may have been suffering as a direct result of Trump's policies, but those farmers had every intention of voting for him again anyway.
For Democrats, that's a tough hurdle to overcome. As the party's share of the rural vote keeps sinking, the problem is not that Democrats are unaware of the challenge, it's that they have limited options to solve the problem.
Because Democrats are a governing party that prioritizes real-world solutions, Democratic leaders tend to believe they can make gains in rural areas by focusing on policymaking. Indeed, the party included all kinds of priorities in President Joe Biden's infrastructure package that were designed specifically to benefit rural areas, including provisions related to broadband access. The party is similarly focused on expanding health care access in rural states where Republicans have refused to accept Medicaid expansion through the Affordable Care Act.
In fact, much of the Democrats' agenda on the national level — child tax credits, a proposed minimum-wage increase, "right to repair" measures — would make a meaningful and positive difference among rural voters.
But there's a problem. As the Cook Political Report's Amy Walter noted over the weekend, Democrats want to appeal to rural voters through governing, while rural voters shun Democrats over differences surrounding culture and values. Me: Also known as San Francisco Values. Even if Democrats tried to overhaul the party's values on issues such as civil and reproductive rights to appeal to rural conservatives — which, of course, the party has no interest in doing — that would only put at risk other key parts of the Democratic coalition. It'd be electoral suicide.
I'll gladly leave it to party strategists to explore possible solutions, though I'm curious what would happen if there were a concerted Democratic effort to tell rural voters that Republicans take their votes for granted, without ever really delivering for them.”
Simple answer to his question. THEY DON’T CARE!!!
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 8, 2021 22:48:27 GMT
The voters in his district don’t care that this guy does stuff like this.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 9, 2021 1:46:38 GMT
Gosar..... The stunt earned furious condemnation from Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA). This is sick behavior from Rep. Paul Gosar," said Lieu, a former Air Force Reserve officer. "He tweeted out the video showing him killing Rep. Ocasio-Cortez from both his official account and personal account. In any workplace in America, if a coworker made an anime video killing another coworker, that person would be fired." Gosar also drew outrage from former Republican National Committee official Doug Heye, who tweeted, "This deserves an overwhelmingly bipartisan censure." An extreme-right lawmaker who has been condemned by his own family members, Gosar has been accused of associating with white supremacists. He has repeatedly used his account to spread far-right internet memes, including from a "men's right's activist" who has said men should stand up straight to project dominance over women.www.rawstory.com/paul-gosar-aoc/
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 9, 2021 2:04:31 GMT
Republican rural farmers will never ever vote democratic, and republicans know that.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 9, 2021 2:15:47 GMT
AOC Challenger Tina Forte Promoted and Attended Jan. 6 Capitol Riot In this special investigation, Snopes found that the apparent QAnon believer livestreamed to Facebook Live the day of the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Jordan Liles Published 25 August 2021 Republican Tina Forte is running in 2022 to claim the New York seat in Congress currently held by U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Ocasio-Cortez, better known as AOC, is a Democrat. During a recent investigation into QAnon activity on Facebook, our research led us to social media accounts managed media accounts managed by Forte, which included heavy promotion of the deadly Jan. 6 “Save America” rally, the event that resulted in the Capitol riot that left law enforcement officers bloodied. Five people died just before, during, or after the riot, and dozens were injured. We found Forte repeatedly used hashtags related to QAnon conspiracy theories. The QAnon mentions even included cries of “Save the Children,” referring to the debunked conspiracy theory that makes claims of mass pedophilia and “Satanic blood-drinking” by Democrats. She took multiple photographs in October, November, and December 2020 with far-right Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio. Further, we uncovered evidence that Forte pushed false election conspiracy theories, including the phrase “Stop the Steal.” www.snopes.com/news/2021/08/25/tina-forte-capitol-riot/
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 15:36:46 GMT
Republican rural farmers will never ever vote democratic, and republicans know that. The farmers in the Central Valley in CA vote Republican as well. It’s given Congress some of its brightest members like Kevin McCarthy and Devin Nunes. Having said that I wonder what these farmers in CA and the Midwest are going to do when they don’t have enough water for their crops and their chosen Representatives in Congress continue to claim the reason for less water is a hoax? CA has been sliding in and out of droughts for several years now and each time the drought hits more fields are left unplanted. A big source of water for the Midwest farmers is this huge aquifer that sits under parts of 8 states in the Midwest. Since about 2018 aquifer experts have been saying the water in this aquifer is being depleted and could be depleted by 70% in the next 50 years. 50 years seems like a long way from now but it’s not when you have individuals ignoring the facts and if & when they do acknowledge the problem a solution will take years to implement once they even have one. At some point CA has to come to terms with its own water problem. But at least in this state there are decision makers taking it seriously in spite of how the farmers vote. But sure Farmers of America continue to vote against not only your best interests but your livelihood as well.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 15:40:24 GMT
Gosar has delete is video where he threatens the President of the United States and kills a member of Congress. You can still watch in the tweet I posted above.
But this guy is right..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 9, 2021 15:58:11 GMT
He maybe expecting a visit from the Secret Service for his threats to the President.
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Post by yodutchess on Nov 9, 2021 16:11:39 GMT
My son drove through parts of the middle of Pennsylvania ( the red part) and TRUMP is still mowed into the fields he saw from the highway as well as all of the flags flying.I really doubt there will be any mind changing.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 17:04:40 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 18:15:37 GMT
If nothing is done about a Congressman releasing a video that threatened the President of the United States and killed a Congresswoman then there is a double set of standards…
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 19:38:55 GMT
Don’t hold your breath…
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 9, 2021 21:28:34 GMT
I am so disgusted by Paul Gosar and any other Republican that doesn't speak out against his (and others) actions.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 9, 2021 22:18:25 GMT
Sounds like this is the guy whose family thinks he is a nut case.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2021 0:12:23 GMT
Sounds like this is the guy whose family thinks he is a nut case. His sister was on CNN today. She was livid. IIRC, six of his siblings were warning people about him before he was even elected...but R's still voted for him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 10, 2021 0:56:09 GMT
Arizona may reelect him again in 2022...
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Jili
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Post by Jili on Nov 10, 2021 7:58:37 GMT
I just read his ‘clarifying’ statement, and it was a mess of deflection. Among other things, he referred to AOC as ‘Congresswoman Cortez’ and would not refer to President Biden with his title. He was ‘Mr Biden’.
But he ‘apologized’, so now his Republican colleagues are off the hook. What a joke.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 10, 2021 11:09:40 GMT
I didn't know about the Paul Gosar thing until IamKristin posted about him in another thread. It was disgusting and inappropriate and I hope the House Ethics committee and the secret service pay him a visit and drag him through it like they did with Kathy Griffin. For someone in his position to do that is so wrong and he should know better. The fact that he didn't speaks volumes about him.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2021 13:56:09 GMT
I just read his ‘clarifying’ statement, and it was a mess of deflection. Among other things, he referred to AOC as ‘Congresswoman Cortez’ and would not refer to President Biden with his title. He was ‘Mr Biden’. But he ‘apologized’, so now his Republican colleagues are off the hook. What a joke. I don’t even see where he apologized. It seemed that he just said it was a joke. Either way, I’m sure it will be let go just like all of the other things he and others have said or done that are threatening and vile. Those things are the Republican way.
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Jili
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Post by Jili on Nov 10, 2021 14:17:12 GMT
I just read his ‘clarifying’ statement, and it was a mess of deflection. Among other things, he referred to AOC as ‘Congresswoman Cortez’ and would not refer to President Biden with his title. He was ‘Mr Biden’. But he ‘apologized’, so now his Republican colleagues are off the hook. What a joke. I don’t even see where he apologized. It seemed that he just said it was a joke. Either way, I’m sure it will be let go just like all of the other things he and others have said or done that are threatening and vile. Those things are the Republican way. Totally agree. It's not an apology. But his party will consider it as such, and therefore the matter is finished.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 10, 2021 14:24:20 GMT
I don’t even see where he apologized. It seemed that he just said it was a joke. Either way, I’m sure it will be let go just like all of the other things he and others have said or done that are threatening and vile. Those things are the Republican way. Totally agree. It's not an apology. But his party will consider it as such, and therefore the matter is finished. I don't consider his "apology" an apology.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 10, 2021 18:07:11 GMT
If they let Gosar off the hook with a insincere apology then there is definitely a double standard in play here.
Comedians have been know to push the envelope with inappropriate jokes. Kathy Griffin did when she released a picture of her holding trump’s bloodied head. And she paid a price for it.
Now we have a sitting Congressman who released a video showing a version of himself threatening the President of the United States then killing another member of Congress.
IMO what he did was much worse then what Kathy Griffin did because of the simple fact he is in Congress and behavior he has exhibited is not acceptable for a sitting member of Congress and should not be tolerated.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2021 20:03:11 GMT
If they let Gosar off the hook with a insincere apology then there is definitely a double standard in play here. Comedians have been know to push the envelope with inappropriate jokes. Kathy Griffin did when she released a picture of her holding trump’s bloodied head. And she paid a price for it. Now we have a sitting Congressman who released a video showing a version of himself threatening the President of the United States then killing another member of Congress. IMO what he did was much worse then what Kathy Griffin did because of the simple fact he is in Congress and behavior he has exhibited is not acceptable for a sitting member of Congress and should not be tolerated. Exactly. Not to mention the fact that all of his coworkers should feel comfortable In their work environment. If I was AOC and other members who have been targeted, I would not feel comfortable working with Gosar, MTG, and others.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 11, 2021 17:47:01 GMT
And they won’t…
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