Kyle Rittenhouse trial - anyone watching?

You'll probably just dismiss this as left wing media which is a very convenient way to ignore facts you don't agree with, don't like or don't fit your narrative.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/12/critics-claim-blm-was-more-violent-than-1960s-civil-rights-protests-thats-just-not-true/

Research has found that the 2020 protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. Here at the Monkey Cage, political scientists Erica Chenoweth and Jeremy Pressman reported that their Crowd Counting Consortium (CCC) found that less than 4 percent of the summer’s protests involved property damage while 1 percent involved police injuries. Other data collections similarly found that 95 percent were peaceful.

acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/16/this-summers-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelming-peaceful-our-research-finds/
Police and counterprotesters sometimes started violence

In fact, the Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters.

Here is what we have found based on the 7,305 events we’ve collected. The overall levels of violence and property destruction were low, and most of the violence that did take place was, in fact, directed against the BLM protesters.

First, police made arrests in 5 percent of the protest events, with over 8,500 reported arrests (or possibly more). Police used tear gas or related chemical substances in 2.5 percent of these events.

Protesters or bystanders were reported injured in 1.6 percent of the protests. In total, at least three Black Lives Matter protesters and one other person were killed while protesting in Omaha, Austin and Kenosha, Wis. One anti-fascist protester killed a far-right group member during a confrontation in Portland, Ore.; law enforcement killed the alleged assailant several days later.

Police were reported injured in 1 percent of the protests. A law enforcement officer killed in California was allegedly shot by supporters of the far-right “boogaloo” movement, not anti-racism protesters. The killings in the line of duty of other law enforcement officers during this period were not related to the protests.

www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/news-and-ideas/black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelmingly-peaceful-our-research-finds

www.npr.org/2021/05/25/999841030/black-lives-matter-fights-disinformation-to-keep-the-movement-strong

www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/10/24/trump-claims-blm-protests-violent-but-majority-peaceful/3640564001/

Just more proof that if a lie is told enough times by the former president and/or Fox News, people believe it.

Phooey.

Why are you holding Kyle to a different standard than the other people who were there?

Every one of them chose to unnecessarily put themselves in a dangerous situation.

Some people went there to protest our unjust justice system, yes.

But some of the went there to riot.
Some went to loot.
Some went because they were excited by violence and burning and stealing.

You have no idea who is who.

We don’t punish people for thoughts.

The fact of the matter is Kyle had just as much right to be there as anyone else, so we can’t punish him for being there.

That’s why his decision to go there wasn’t part of the trial. Because that wasn’t criminal. If that were criminal, round up and punish everyone who went there.

I read his testimony and I watched the video of the chase not once but twice.

And in my opinion it wasn’t self defense.

He set off a chain of events that night that ultimately led to him shooting three people two of them who died.  As much as he wants to portray it, he’s no victim. And he should be held accountable for his actions that night and not be given a pass because he cried and claimed he was a victim.

Great. So I can take my pistol to the H‑E‑B to protect the place from Billy Bob with his open carry rifle, do something to antagonize him, and when he swings his gun my way I can shoot him. It will be self defense.

I’ve figured out how we can turn Texas blue, one stupid ammosexual at a time. And it will all be perfectly legal.

I went to the Wisconsin statute as I was surprised that it was dismissed as it seemed like a no brainer that if nothing else minor possessing dangerous firearm would hold - it's a freaking mess. Basically they exempted long guns. 

Did you actually look at or read any of the links I posted?  None of them were from CNN or MSNBC. The majority of the articles were posted after the riots after careful analysis of the data.  Yes, there was violence and looting.  No one is disputing that.  But not to the extent that right wing news media reported.  

What responsibility do you think police and military should bear for the financial cost where they were the ones who instigated violence? How much taxpayer money do you think has been spent defending police who killed black people with excessive force in the line of duty? How many families have been driven into poverty by the loss of a breadwinner at the hands of violent police? How much taxpayer money spent on unjust incarceration?

With conservatives, it's always somebody else's fault. You all don't take responsibility for the damage our police and military do here and abroad, and you're mad when the victims and their supporters fight back in a way you don't like. You applaud those who go in to shoot them (or separate them from their families, or detain them indefinitely, or bomb them into oblivion) when they fight back.

It's easy for you to say, oh, violence isn't the answer and you need to work for change peacefully. But you all are systematically rigging our political system in your own favor, making peaceful change impossible. Don't be surprised when violence is the response. People will only be oppressed for so long before they fight back.

Except that the affluent white people who stormed the capitol on 1/6 are the very opposite of oppressed.

Maybe it will come to civil war, IDK. I know I'm tired of conservatives telling everyone else that violence isn't the answer unless they're the ones committing violence. Then it's "self defense." They are stacking the deck against us to make peaceful solutions impossible. 

Rittenhouse was not faced by 3 people. Period, end of story.

I love how you ignore the rest of her factually correct statement and pick on the one thing that isn’t.

We know that's what Kyle and his friend said. But we also know they both lie.