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doesitmatter
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He just lies! Nov 25, 2021 8:42:57 GMT via mobile

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Post by doesitmatter on Nov 25, 2021 8:42:57 GMT

I read the post and typed out about Gordy and other cities, then I read more responses and see the peas were on it and already posted of course!

We are at $5.30 and 15 minutes away is $6.10. Pre pandemic we were $2.50-2.75.
I don’t live in California and I don’t leave in an isolated area or a big city. Just a small city.

I looked it - correction we were $1.87-2.10 right before the pandemic hit in early 2020.

Last Edit: Nov 25, 2021 8:55:21 GMT by doesitmatter

doesitmatter
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He just lies! Nov 25, 2021 8:59:09 GMT via mobile

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Post by doesitmatter on Nov 25, 2021 8:59:09 GMT

Nov 24, 2021 14:45:36 GMT Mel said:

Of course, you realize the same people who believe that Biden is the one who sets the prices for literally everything are the ones who believe tRump is God...

I have to tell you, in the last 3-4 years I have lost a lot of respect for people that *I* thought were smart.

Me too, from both political parties who were extremists in their views. I think most of the world seems to have lost their minds

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He just lies! Nov 25, 2021 10:29:58 GMT

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Post by boys5times on Nov 25, 2021 10:29:58 GMT

Gas prices ARE up. It's the highest it's been in 7 years. More than $1 a gallon a year ago. A 61% increase from the $2.12 average gas price this time last year, mainly due to energy policies that President Joe Biden implemented. Gas prices have risen by about 50 percent since the start of 2021. The White House has enacted executive orders designed to slow growth of oil production. The Biden administration temporarily suspended the issuance of oil and gas permits on federal lands and waters and the cancelation of the Keystone XL oil pipeline project in a series of orders aimed at combating climate change. America’s carbon emissions have been dropping for years now without destructive economic policies. And here we are.

www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epmr_pte_nus_dpg&f=m Year
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1990 NA 1.258 1.335 1.324 NA
1991 NA 1.094 1.040 1.076 1.126 1.128 1.096 1.115 1.109 1.088 1.099 1.076
1992 1.022 1.006 1.013 1.052 1.107 1.145 1.137 1.122 1.122 1.114 1.111 1.078
1993 1.062 1.054 1.052 1.078 1.100 1.097 1.078 1.062 1.050 1.092 1.066 1.014
1994 0.998 1.009 1.008 1.027 1.047 1.078 1.106 1.155 1.144 1.114 1.116 1.091
1995 1.082 1.073 1.072 1.111 1.178 1.192 1.154 1.123 1.111 1.087 1.062 1.071
1996 1.090 1.089 1.137 1.231 1.279 1.256 1.227 1.207 1.202 1.204 1.232 1.235
1997 1.236 1.230 1.205 1.199 1.200 1.198 1.174 1.224 1.231 1.197 1.171 1.131
1998 1.086 1.049 1.017 1.030 1.064 1.064 1.055 1.026 1.009 1.019 0.995 0.945
1999 0.939 0.921 0.982 1.131 1.131 1.114 1.158 1.221 1.256 1.244 1.251 1.273
2000 1.289 1.377 1.516 1.465 1.487 1.633 1.551 1.465 1.550 1.532 1.517 1.443
2001 1.447 1.450 1.409 1.552 1.702 1.616 1.421 1.421 1.522 1.315 1.171 1.086
2002 1.107 1.114 1.249 1.397 1.392 1.382 1.397 1.396 1.400 1.445 1.419 1.386
2003 1.458 1.613 1.693 1.589 1.497 1.493 1.513 1.620 1.679 1.564 1.512 1.479
2004 1.572 1.648 1.736 1.798 1.983 1.969 1.911 1.878 1.870 2.000 1.979 1.841
2005 1.831 1.910 2.079 2.243 2.161 2.156 2.290 2.486 2.903 2.717 2.257 2.185
2006 2.316 2.280 2.425 2.742 2.907 2.885 2.981 2.952 2.555 2.245 2.229 2.313
2007 2.240 2.278 2.563 2.845 3.146 3.056 2.965 2.786 2.803 2.803 3.080 3.018
2008 3.043 3.028 3.244 3.458 3.766 4.054 4.062 3.779 3.703 3.051 2.147 1.687
2009 1.788 1.923 1.959 2.049 2.266 2.631 2.527 2.616 2.554 2.551 2.651 2.607
2010 2.715 2.644 2.772 2.848 2.836 2.732 2.729 2.730 2.705 2.801 2.859 2.993
2011 3.095 3.211 3.561 3.800 3.906 3.680 3.650 3.639 3.611 3.448 3.384 3.266
2012 3.380 3.579 3.852 3.900 3.732 3.539 3.439 3.722 3.849 3.746 3.452 3.310
2013 3.319 3.670 3.711 3.570 3.615 3.626 3.591 3.574 3.532 3.344 3.243 3.276
2014 3.313 3.356 3.533 3.661 3.673 3.692 3.611 3.487 3.406 3.171 2.912 2.543
2015 2.116 2.216 2.464 2.469 2.718 2.802 2.794 2.636 2.365 2.290 2.158 2.038
2016 1.949 1.764 1.969 2.113 2.268 2.366 2.239 2.178 2.219 2.249 2.182 2.254
2017 2.349 2.304 2.325 2.417 2.391 2.347 2.300 2.380 2.645 2.505 2.564 2.477
2018 2.555 2.587 2.591 2.757 2.901 2.891 2.849 2.836 2.836 2.860 2.647 2.366
2019 2.248 2.309 2.516 2.798 2.859 2.716 2.740 2.621 2.592 2.627 2.598 2.555
2020 2.548 2.442 2.234 1.841 1.870 2.082 2.183 2.182 2.183 2.158 2.108 2.195
2021 2.334 2.501 2.810 2.858 2.985 3.064 3.136 3.158 3.175 3.291

aj2hall
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He just lies! Nov 25, 2021 16:39:13 GMT lucyg likes this

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Post by aj2hall on Nov 25, 2021 16:39:13 GMT

Nov 25, 2021 10:29:58 GMT boys5times said:

Gas prices ARE up. It's the highest it's been in 7 years. More than $1 a gallon a year ago. A 61% increase from the $2.12 average gas price this time last year, mainly due to energy policies that President Joe Biden implemented. Gas prices have risen by about 50 percent since the start of 2021. The White House has enacted executive orders designed to slow growth of oil production. The Biden administration temporarily suspended the issuance of oil and gas permits on federal lands and waters and the cancelation of the Keystone XL oil pipeline project in a series of orders aimed at combating climate change. America’s carbon emissions have been dropping for years now without destructive economic policies. And here we are.

Cancelling the pipeline had no impact on current gas prices. The pipeline was an extension of the main pipeline and not complete or in operation.

apnews.com/article/donald-trump-lifestyle-health-coronavirus-pandemic-prices-084a908ac2850e8690a822d6c7f56301

Biden’s action on the Keystone XL pipeline has nothing to do with the recent spike in gasoline prices.

McCarthy’s comparison to a year ago is also misleading. Gasoline prices didn’t fall at the time because of the Trump administration, as Trump often claims; they plunged because of the coronavirus forcing people to abandon their offices, schools, business trips and vacations. Underscoring the connection to the pandemic shutdown, U.S. gas prices were at their lowest in April 2020 when people were staying home most but have mostly risen since then, according to U.S. Energy Information Administration, even when Trump was still in office.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/bogus-gop-claim-that-biden-is-responsible-higher-gasoline-prices/

The biggest factor in the price of gasoline is crude oil. Well over 50 percent of the price at the pump is directly tied to the cost of crude oil. About 18 percent of the cost relates to state and federal taxes — the latter of which have not increased under Biden. About 15 percent stems from distribution and marketing, while 13 percent comes from refining costs and profits. (These figures are from AAA.)

If you go back over 35 years of Energy Department data, there is almost a perfect — 95 percent — correlation between yearly crude prices and gasoline prices, Finley said.

So why has the cost of crude oil increased in recent months? It was unusually low because the coronavirus pandemic flattened economies around the world. Now that mass vaccination is helping to reopen many economies, demand is increasing again. But supply is lacking.
“Oil demand was so low during the pandemic last year, oil producers decreased their production levels,” said Chris Higginbotham, a spokesman for the Energy Information Administration (EIA). “It takes time to ramp up production, so demand this year has increased far more quickly than production rates. That means there is less crude oil in storage, which pushes up the price of oil, making it more expensive to make gasoline.”

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So where’s Biden in all of this? Nowhere. As AAA’s McGee put it, “Gas prices fluctuate no matter who is in office.”

These attacks holding Biden’s policies responsible for higher gas prices are silly and false. Gasoline prices are closely connected to crude oil prices — and a president has virtually no control over that. The world is emerging from a pandemic that sent oil prices tumbling. Now the price of crude oil is going up. Simple as that.

Biden has taken some actions that, in theory, could affect energy prices in the future and on the margins — but he’s been president for only six months. Any possible impact will happen far down the road — and that will be a subject for historians, not politicians.
In the immediate period, pinning the blame on Biden for today’s gasoline prices is worthy of Four Pinocchios.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/

While presidential actions and policies can have some impact on the crude oil market, they don't have as much influence over gasoline prices as one might think.

"Some of (a president's) decisions can impact or contribute to market changes, which can then impact (future) crude oil, but they don't dictate gas prices," said McGee. "If you go back and look at historical data, whether it was Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden, (gas prices) go up and down no matter who's in office."

The reality is that President Biden or any other president does not have the ability to make a big impact on gas prices. OPEC has the most significant impact on prices.

Comparing prices now to prices last year is a false comparison because travel was down significantly due to covid. Comparison to 2 years ago or pre-pandemic would be a more accurate or more fair comparison.

Furthermore, Biden has approved many oil and gas leases.

www.npr.org/2021/07/13/1015581092/biden-promised-to-end-new-drilling-on-federal-land-but-approvals-are-up

Last Edit: Nov 25, 2021 16:53:24 GMT by aj2hall