The Great Carpezio
Pearl Clutcher
Something profound goes here.
Posts: 3,019
Jun 25, 2014 21:50:33 GMT
|
Post by The Great Carpezio on Nov 29, 2021 6:40:42 GMT
I’m trying to figure out my role, if any, so I’m asking the peas for their insight.
So, my son is a hockey goalie. I posted on FB about his team’s struggles and successes this weekend at a tournament.
Another hockey mom I am friends with on social media, posted a similar post with a montage of photos for her son’s team. This team is the same age(14U) but a level up. My son has played with a bunch of those kids and is very close with one.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure this mom didn’t realize it, but one kid is OBVIOUSLY making the white power symbol (no one holds their hand naturally the way he is. It’s at his chest and definitely has the W with the ok sign. There are other kids that look to be doing it too, but not as obvious nor certain. One kid looks like he is doing the “shocker” sign (if you don’t know—it’s gross). They came in third, hence all the interesting “threes.”
Of course, the kid doing the obvious symbol is the goalie who has had a bit of a rivalry (and harassed) my son.
I think the racism needs to be addressed. It looks bad for the association, the internet is forever, we have BIPOC kids on my son’s team (not any on that team though that I know of). Oh? And racism is disgusting.
I don’t want it to look like sour grapes. I’m not sure if I should contact their manager, the coordinator or higher up. The manager and coordinators have kids on that team. They may be super receptive or very defensive. Idk.
Maybe I should let it go? As a teacher of teens, I would never let that pass in my classroom or my kid’s team, but I curious what you all would do.
My SIL felt like it could be the “gotcha” sign. She might be right. Idk. .
Btw: I live in a red area.
|
|
|
Post by Crack-a-lackin on Nov 29, 2021 8:42:39 GMT
If these kids know the shocker sign they know the gotcha sign is no longer an innocent game sign and it means wp.
Honestly, I don’t know what I would do. Probably stay out of it because someone else will address it without the perception of sour grapes. However, it is a big deal and needs to be addressed so I might alert the league because if it’s happening on one team it could be happening on others.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 29, 2021 11:32:14 GMT
Maybe print it off and circle the dude and send it to coaches and ask—what is this?
|
|
snickle
Junior Member
Posts: 65
Aug 2, 2021 0:46:18 GMT
|
Post by snickle on Nov 29, 2021 12:12:31 GMT
I don't think most kids know that the OK sign is now some kind of "white power" symbol. Personally, I think that is getting a bit much to imbue meaning and double entrandre to everything. But, things change and maybe that's a good point to educate ?
|
|
pyccku
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,817
Jun 27, 2014 23:12:07 GMT
|
Post by pyccku on Nov 29, 2021 12:20:29 GMT
Yeah, you'll have some kids thinking it's just the circle game and some who know that it's become a WP sign. It just really depends on the kid and what they're into. For teen boys, if they aren't associating with that type of crowd, I would tend to think it's the circle game. If they lean towards the proud boy type, I would be more inclined to believe they are doing the WP sign and know exactly what it is.
|
|
artbabe
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,406
Jun 26, 2014 1:59:10 GMT
|
Post by artbabe on Nov 29, 2021 12:22:05 GMT
I don't think most kids know that the OK sign is now some kind of "white power" symbol. Personally, I think that is getting a bit much to imbue meaning and double entrandre to everything. But, things change and maybe that's a good point to educate ? I teach middle school. They absolutely do know what that symbol means.
|
|
The Great Carpezio
Pearl Clutcher
Something profound goes here.
Posts: 3,019
Jun 25, 2014 21:50:33 GMT
|
Post by The Great Carpezio on Nov 29, 2021 12:29:49 GMT
There is no way I can prove it is the WP sign. Honestly, I don’t know, but it sure looks purposeful.
Anyway, my boys are also 13 and I asked them what it was and they knew the WP sign and said that first and then mentioned the gotcha thing.
I normally wouldn’t hesitate, but I obviously don’t know for sure. I feel a discussion should be had, but I’m unsure now if I should be the one to say anything. Ugh.
|
|
|
Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 29, 2021 12:35:28 GMT
I would probably let someone know, as a “hey, in case you and the kids weren’t aware of what the hand symbols mean…” but I wouldn’t assume the kids know what all of the symbols mean. They could be seeing people do it online but don’t know the meaning behind it.
ETA that this reminded me of a conversation with my 10 year old a few weeks ago. He was holding his hand in different ways to hold up three fingers and said, “some people do it like this” and then said it was easier to hold your fingers that way. I’m not up on all of the hand gestures I guess so will need to look up all of the ones people are referring to and talk to him about it.
|
|
|
Post by mom on Nov 29, 2021 14:07:40 GMT
I would probably let someone know, as a “hey, in case you and the kids weren’t aware of what the hand symbols mean…” but I wouldn’t assume the kids know what all of the symbols mean. They could be seeing people do it online but don’t know the meaning behind it. ETA that this reminded me of a conversation with my 10 year old a few weeks ago. He was holding his hand in different ways to hold up three fingers and said, “some people do it like this” and then said it was easier to hold your fingers that way. I’m not up on all of the hand gestures I guess so will need to look up all of the ones people are referring to and talk to him about it. I like this approach. It doesn’t assume the kids are trying to be little racists but it also gives a chance for the adults (parents? coaches?) to step in and educate them.
|
|