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Post by onelasttime on Dec 9, 2021 23:17:49 GMT
From what I’m understanding Mark Meadows may have or may not given the 1/6 Committee a power point plan to overthrow the 2020 Presidential Election. He may have done this intentionally or unintentionally. And it appears to have been leaked.
What brought this to my attention was this…
When I read it I first thought why would would President Biden do this. And where is it from anyway.
So I checked some more and found this…
You can click on the link to read the plan and the above comes from the plan
From the “Plan”
“Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Option for 6 JAN”
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“The talking points..
The Chinese systematically gained control over our election system constituting a national security emergency
- The electronic voting machines were compromised and cannot be trusted to provide an accurate vote count
- To restore confidence the “failsafe” of counting the paper ballots must be used to determine who won the election for President, Senators, Congressional Representatives
- Hand counts reported by the media are not really hand counts and easily subverted”
There is a lot more in that report that is really eye opening especially since it was put together by a sitting President who legally lost the election and those that worked for him at the time.
If this thing is real and there is no reason to believe it’s not. Holy shit!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 23:26:29 GMT
Unbelievable. "Rep. Bennie Thompson, the chair of the House special committee investigating the insurrection of January 6, is showing himself to have a very deft hand with the stiletto. In response to the duplicity of former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who bailed on cooperating with the committee and then launched a comical lawsuit against it, Thompson released a document Meadows had provided to the committee and, WILL O’GOD!, it’s the damndest government record I’ve read since the transcript of the smoking-gun tape was released in August of 1974. And it’s 10 times as insane. Seriously, this thing reads like it was put together by Moe, Larry, and Curly Hitler, except it was received and taken seriously by the stooges who were running the government and organizing resistance to a free election." Meadows' document: " A Trusted Lead Counter will be appointed with authority from the POTUS to direct the actions of select federalized National Guard units and support from DOJ, DHS and other US government agencies as needed to complete a recount of the legal paper ballots for the federal elections in all 50 states. ▪ US Marshals will immediately secure all ballots and provide a protective perimeter around the locations in all 50 states. ▪ DHS will use their emergency response logistic capabilities to support the effort. They will integrate the IT support that will include separating out the legal from the counterfeit ballots and communications with all supporting the effort and cameras (Possibly cell phones) imaging each and every ballot. These images will be distributed to the Internet. ▪ The federalized National Guard in each state will be supplied detailed processes and be responsible for counting each legitimate paper ballot. Teams made up of three (first couple counties will be five) National Guard members will do the counting. As the counting occurs each ballot will be imaged and the images placed on the Internet so any US citizen can view them and count the ballots themselves. The process will be completely transparent. Also batshit insane crazy, but do go on. VP Pence seats Republican Electors over the objections of Democrats in states where fraud occurred VP. Pence rejects the electors from States where fraud occurred causing the election to be decided by remaining electoral votes. VP Pence delays the decision in order to allow for a vetting and subsequent counting of the all the legal paper ballots." www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a38474499/mark-meadows-january-6-committee-document/Is this ANYWHERE on your news? No news coverage so far. A coup plan and no screaming, 24/7 coverage. Tells you all you need to know about how the media controls the narrative.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 9, 2021 23:30:29 GMT
You’re right. This is kind of a big thing. I mean it really is and hardly a peep.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 23:33:12 GMT
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The coup plan will not be televised, I guess.
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 9, 2021 23:37:59 GMT
So wait-they planned on recounting ballots, and were so sure of fraud that they were going to seat R electors in states where fraud had occurred. Sounds completely legit. 🤔👀
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 23:39:15 GMT
An administration with clear plans to subvert the will of the people (even more than it already is by gerrymandering, voting restrictions and the filibuster). And it's not even in the major media. If this had been a dem plan, FOX, OANN would be covering it 24/7 until your ears bled. /photo/1
Never say die - that's their motto. Even after the coup failed, they were still trying.
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Post by Just T on Dec 9, 2021 23:44:44 GMT
You’re right. This is kind of a big thing. I mean it really is and hardly a peep. And there won't be. I'm just adding this to my very long list titled "Crazy A$$ Shit Republicans Don't Give a Rat's A$$ About."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 23:47:27 GMT
"The material turned over by Meadows may be the tip of the iceberg. Committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) said last week that the committee is preparing to hold “several weeks” worth of public hearings that will tell the story of the riot at the Capitol in “vivid color.” She added on Thursday that the committee has met with nearly 300 witnesses, that it is conducting multiple depositions and interviews every week, and that it expects a ruling imminently on whether it can obtain Trump’s White House documents. “The investigation is firing on all cylinders,” she wrote." www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mark-meadows-overturn-election-results-jan-6-committee-1269532/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 9, 2021 23:59:37 GMT
They have been taking about since at least yesterday. He has turned over more than 6,000 pages including texts and email from his PERSONAL accounts some from Jan 6th when he was in the WH.
So I would think none of the texts and emails are executive privilege. official work stuff is required to be done on government devices. Recorded or at least documented!!
But her emails....... They should have known....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 0:33:25 GMT
If it was leaked, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Mr. Meadows himself. He can keep his hands clean and trump's mob from going after him.
Also, I am so jaded I feel like this too will fizzle out and trump will once again come out of this unscathed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 0:50:41 GMT
Meadows turned this material over to the committee before he clammed up and stopped cooperating.
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Post by Merge on Dec 10, 2021 0:55:22 GMT
It won’t make any difference. Trump will delay all this somehow until he wins re-election in 2024 through many of the means suggested in the document (like having friendly legislatures overturn elections), and then he’ll once again claim executive privilege.
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Post by flanz on Dec 10, 2021 1:01:03 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source?
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Post by Merge on Dec 10, 2021 1:13:05 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source? My thought as well (after the nihilist one above). Let’s not fall down the right wing rabbit hole of, “The media won’t report this, but …”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 1:16:03 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source? links above - esquire, rs, etc.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 10, 2021 1:37:33 GMT
I think it’s real after I asked Google. Besides the links @zingermack provided there were others who also said Mark Meadows turned over several hundred documents to the committee.
He changed his mind about cooperating with the committee when he found out the Committee subpoenaed his telephone records.
Which makes me wonder what was on those telephone records to make him not only quit cooperating with the committee but file suit against them as well.
In any case if this blueprint for overturning an election is fake, it will come out as one sooner or later.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 1:57:43 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 10, 2021 2:01:51 GMT
Now this , supposedly, is from his book.
The thing with trump, based on his past comments, one would absolutely believe he told Meadows this.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 2:09:30 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source? My thought as well (after the nihilist one above). Let’s not fall down the right wing rabbit hole of, “The media won’t report this, but …” YES, they they were talking about it last night!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 2:23:08 GMT
More... Meadows, in recent legal filings, indicated he shared 6,800 pages of emails and more than 2,300 text messages with the Jan. 6 committee in an initial bid to cooperate. But members of the committee raised alarms about Meadows’ claim that some of his private records were shielded by executive privilege. If that’s the case, they said, those records should likely have been turned over to the National Archives as part of official government business. *** Under a federal law passed in 2014, White House personnel may use their personal devices or email accounts for official business, but are required to forward those “electronic messaging” records into an official account within 20 days of their creation. *** Trump and Meadows, like many Republicans, condemned former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server to conduct official communications — a flap that hurt Clinton in her 2016 campaign against Trump. *** In a series of recent statements, members of the select panel have suggested that Meadows may have violated the Presidential Records Act by failing to transfer official documents to the National Archives that he maintained on his personal cell phone and email accounts. *** www.politico.com/news/2021/12/09/national-archives-meadows-trump-524043
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Dec 10, 2021 2:48:12 GMT
He changed his mind about cooperating with the committee when he found out the Committee subpoenaed his telephone records. I just want to say that as someone who has had this happen, my team also fought tooth and nail not to have my phone records released when I was involved in legal issues. The problem is that the subpoenas are all inclusive, not just to the event related time frame. So while only the day in question in my case was needed, they wanted to go tripping through all my messages for as far back as my phone held them. They didn't want just texts between me and specific person involved, they wanted to look at all my discussions with anyone. So I can totally understand why he would not cooperate. We did have to counter whatever the legal language is and we were able to reach a deal over the issue. If he was picking and choosing what information to provide up till they issued the subpoenas and then they decided they wanted all access, I can kind of side with him on this one part. He was cooperating till then, which tells me they wanted to go poking around and Im guessing he has a lot of things in there that he doesnt' want coming not, not necessarily relating to the January 6th thing. This is all just a guess based on my own experience with this issue.
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 10, 2021 3:18:17 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source? It was mentioned briefly in the NYT today: “Mr. Thompson said Mr. Meadows had provided some useful information to the committee, including a November email that discussed appointing an alternate slate of electors to keep Mr. Trump in power and a Jan. 5 message about putting the National Guard on standby.” The main thrust of the article is about his lawsuit. He reeeeally doesn’t want the committee to get its hands on those 1000 remaining text messages. The thing is, they haven’t even asked Verizon for the content-just the dates and times. I would love to see the content, personally.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 3:57:03 GMT
Has this been verified by a reliable source? It was mentioned briefly in the NYT today: “Mr. Thompson said Mr. Meadows had provided some useful information to the committee, including a November email that discussed appointing an alternate slate of electors to keep Mr. Trump in power and a Jan. 5 message about putting the National Guard on standby.” The main thrust of the article is about his lawsuit. He reeeeally doesn’t want the committee to get its hands on those 1000 remaining text messages. The thing is, they haven’t even asked Verizon for the content-just the dates and times. I would love to see the content, personally. Just 2 posts up ^^^^ Meadows gave the Committee over 6,000 emails and 2,000 plus emails!!! www.politico.com/news/2021/12/09/national-archives-meadows-trump-524043
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 5:38:34 GMT
Shaking head here......
GOP lost it when Clinton didn’t turn over her private emails — now Meadows is doing the same: analyst Sarah K. Burris December 09, 2021
It was revealed Wednesday that former chief of staff Mark Meadows handed over some of his communications from his time serving in the White House. Among those were his personal emails and text messages. But as the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol revealed, Meadows was using a personal email and phone while communicating with government officials. It's the same thing that Republicans told former Secretary Hillary Clinton was unacceptable. ***According to people who would know, like National Review’s Shannen Coffin, on or near her last day [in office], per government policy, [Meadows] was required to sign what is known as the OF-109 form. Coffin, a former senior lawyer at the State Department, says that the OF-109 is an acknowledgement (sic) that the departing [government] employee has returned and/or turned over all official documents and records..."
The story was a 2015 attack on Clinton, saying, "Signing this OF-109 would only mean Ms. Clinton committed perjury.
It was only after the House committee uncovered Meadows' information and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) sent a letter to Meadows' lawyer that the top White House aide suddenly decided that perhaps he hadn't fully submitted all of his communications required by the laws mandating archives from the president and his staff.
He didn't even mention his personal communications, but according to the committee, Meadows revealed that he turned his personal phone into his carrier when he got a new one.
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Post by casii on Dec 10, 2021 10:56:11 GMT
After the incredibly terrible shenanigans of the GOP who are hot to install a dictator and after hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol are barely getting a wrist slap, is anyone else flummoxed that we could be thrown in jail for failing to pay a parking ticket?
Also their plan is laughable IF they didn't have goons who were clearly game to implement it with violent force. They have the goons.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 10, 2021 11:14:34 GMT
Or shot on the street or in our homes.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 10, 2021 11:17:16 GMT
More... Meadows, in recent legal filings, indicated he shared 6,800 pages of emails and more than 2,300 text messages with the Jan. 6 committee in an initial bid to cooperate. But members of the committee raised alarms about Meadows’ claim that some of his private records were shielded by executive privilege. If that’s the case, they said, those records should likely have been turned over to the National Archives as part of official government business. *** Under a federal law passed in 2014, White House personnel may use their personal devices or email accounts for official business, but are required to forward those “electronic messaging” records into an official account within 20 days of their creation. *** Trump and Meadows, like many Republicans, condemned former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server to conduct official communications — a flap that hurt Clinton in her 2016 campaign against Trump. *** In a series of recent statements, members of the select panel have suggested that Meadows may have violated the Presidential Records Act by failing to transfer official documents to the National Archives that he maintained on his personal cell phone and email accounts. *** www.politico.com/news/2021/12/09/national-archives-meadows-trump-524043Gee…isn’t this what repubs got their panties in a bunch about over HRC? IOKIYR As more and more stuff is revealed it makes it clear republicans are actually destroying America.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 13:40:23 GMT
They sure do. Some days it seems their party is 80% goons.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 10, 2021 16:19:27 GMT
Has a point..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 18:41:44 GMT
Still pretty much crickets.
Proof that America will not rise from her stupor until it's too late.
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