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"The 36-page document, which was intended to be presented to members of Congress before they met in a joint session to certify President Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral college victory, opens with an allegation that the Chinese government “systematically gained control” over the US election system through “compromised” electronic voting machines which could not be trusted to provide an accurate vote count. It further singles out eight states — Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico — as having had their results corrupted through “domestic voter fraud”. The presentation lays out a theory identical to that which was offered up by Trump campaign attorneys Rudolph Giuliani and Sidney Powell at a now-infamous press conference held at Republican National Committee headquarters on 19 November 2020. At the time, Ms Powell alleged that she had uncovered the “massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China, in the interference with our elections here in the United States,” and further claimed — without offering evidence — that voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems used software from a different voting system builder, Smartmatic, with both having been developed “at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election”. The claims in this powerpoint slide match those made by Sidney Powell during an infamous 19 November press conference at Republican National Committee headquarters. (Unknown) None of what Ms Powell alleged about either Dominion or Smartmatic had any basis in reality, and both companies have subsequently filed billion-dollar defamation lawsuits against her.... Several slides lay out a scenario under which ballots in all 50 states would have been seized by the US Marshals Service and held for a 50-state hand recount conducted by “select federalized National Guard units” under supervision of a “trusted lead counter” to be appointed by Mr Trump....Another slide in the presentation alleges that a computer server in Frankfurt, Germany operated by a company called Scytl was used by “malicious actors” to falsify election results. The alleged German server — which does not exist — also figured in a call Ms Powell made to Mr Cohen’s private phone number — a number known only within the Pentagon and White House — shortly after he’d spoken with Mr Flynn.... After Mr Cohen answered the unsolicited phone call, Ms Powell demanded that he “launch a special operations mission” to retrieve then-Central Intelligence Agency director Gina Haspel from Germany, where Ms Powell claimed she was being held after sustaining an injury during a secret mission (which never actually happened) to retrieve the server (which did not exist) as part of a cover-up.... The option, under which then-vice president Mike Pence would have unilaterally delayed certification of the 2020 election “to allow for a vetting and subsequent counting of the all the legal paper ballots,” matches the plan laid out by Mr Cruz in a statement on 2 January. Mr Cruz, along with senators Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, James Lankford of Oklahoma, Steve Daines of Montana, John Kennedy of Louisiana, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, and then-senators-elect Cynthia Lummis of Mississippi, Roger Marshall of Kansas, Bill Hagerty of Tennessee and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama, proposed that rather than count the electoral vote on 6 January, Congress could “immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states”. Mr Lankford, who was speaking on the senate floor in support of the delay plan when the pro-Trump mob forced senators and Mr Pence from the chamber into hiding, later dropped his support for a delay, as did Mr Johnson, Ms Blackburn and Mr Daines." www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mark-meadows-trump-capitol-riot-powerpoint-b1973809.htmlI hope I live to see Powell, Giuliani, Flynn, Cruz, Hawley, Johnson et al in prison and/or in debt for life.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 18:59:15 GMT
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Post by casii on Dec 10, 2021 19:05:07 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson did comment on that post saying she was looking for further confirmation. At this point, it's pretty solid that this is the real deal, so I look forward to her breakdown. But she's not major media. The fact that the media could wax eloquent on Clinton's emails every day leading up to the election, but this is missing from media discourse for the most part shows me that if the media doesn't get on board to help save democracy, they've forgotten what fascist countries do to journalists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 19:33:38 GMT
The fact that the media could wax eloquent on Clinton's emails every day leading up to the election, but this is missing from media discourse for the most part shows me that if the media doesn't get on board to help save democracy, they've forgotten what fascist countries do to journalists. It shows you they only care about keeping the GOP in power - to the best effort. They are scared shitless of paying more in taxes by corps and the wealthiest. So, keep it off the air - especially for those who get their news from tv/cable/newspapers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 1:08:55 GMT
Meadows turned this material over to the committee before he clammed up and stopped cooperating. Ahhh so that makes more sense. He got threatened because of this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 4:38:10 GMT
"The powerpoint was presented on 4 January to a number of Republican senators and members of Congress, the source said. Trump’s lawyers working at the Willard hotel were not shown the presentation, according to a source familiar with the matter. But the select committee said they did find in the materials turned over by Meadows, his text messages with a member of Congress, who told Meadows about a “highly controversial” plan to send slates of electors for Trump to the joint session of Congress.
Meadows replied: “I love it.”"www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/10/trump-powerpoint-mark-meadows-capitol-attack
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Post by dizzycheermom on Dec 11, 2021 6:22:38 GMT
Meadows turned this material over to the committee before he clammed up and stopped cooperating. Ahhh so that makes more sense. He got threatened because of this. Where are you getting that he was threatened? He didn’t want to turn over texts and emails which legally were supposed to have already been turned over. So he clammed up. Seems likely that there is very damning evidence there.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 11, 2021 15:19:22 GMT
IMO the power point is pretty damning. But now the question is what in the hell is he hiding that is more damning then the power point?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 11, 2021 16:17:17 GMT
Let us NOT forget this, they have...
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Post by casii on Dec 11, 2021 16:19:50 GMT
IMO the power point is pretty damning. But now the question is what in the hell is he hiding that is more damning then the power point? I wish this story was getting the same energy that the Fox Christmas tree has been getting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 16:20:14 GMT
There is a link on a screenshot that references a company called Ingersoll & Lockwood, which resembles the name of a real-life atty and author, Ingersoll Lockwood, from the early 20th century who wrote books about the end of the republic. Chilling that they'd use that as some sort of reference to their plans.
"In The Last President, the president is a populist who won the 1896 election and eventually leads to the downfall of the republic. As Twitter user Ava Collins pointed out on January 12, Lockwood wrote about an artillery attack that "shook the Capitol to its very foundations." Just read the last chapters of “The Last President***Travels & Adventures of Little Baron Trump” by Ingersoll Lockwood and yeah that’s some time traveling shit for sure, too much coincidence pic.twitter.com/3f5mV6f5CW — Ava Collins (@simplesthing) January 12, 2021 The attack, which leaves the dome of the Capitol destroyed, takes place as Congress is attempting to pass an act that would extend the U.S. pension system to Confederate soldiers. Lockwood's fictional bill is so controversial that it leads to huge crowds marching on Washington. At one point, Lockwood has the president enter the House chamber, and the Speaker insists he leaves, saying "The President must withdraw [...] his presence here is a menace to our free deliberation." "The president was led away, and the Republican Senators and Representatives passed slowly out of the disfigured Capitol, while the tellers prepared to take the vote of the House," Lockwood wrote later in the chapter. The book describes a "surging mass of humanity that held the Capitol girt round and round", reminiscent of scenes at the Capitol as rioters entered the building during the final stages of ratifying the 2020 election. The story concludes with the suggestion that a second civil war has begun and says "the Republic of Washington was no more." The Last President can be read almost in its entirety at the Library of Congress' website and a quick perusal of the last few pages shows some parallels with recent events in Washington as members of Congress fiercely debate. There's also a Republican minority." www.newsweek.com/little-baron-trump-author-also-wrote-book-about-capitol-attack-that-ends-republic-1561901
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 17:59:10 GMT
Ahhh so that makes more sense. He got threatened because of this. Where are you getting that he was threatened? He didn’t want to turn over texts and emails which legally were supposed to have already been turned over. So he clammed up. Seems likely that there is very damning evidence there. It's just an assumption. Trump has a history of making people reverse course on their actions against him. Remember, he had a "fixer" for a lawyer. Not much math involved to solve the equation.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 12, 2021 5:52:32 GMT
Too many people knew about all this!! Mark Meadows met multiple times at White House with retired military officer tied to insurrection PowerPoint: report Tom Boggioni December 11, 2021 According to a report from the Washington Post, a retired military officer who was a strong proponent of overturning the 2020 presidential election, was welcomed at the White House and spoke with Donald Trump's chief of staff "maybe eight to 10 times" before the January 6th riot at the Capitol. The report states that retired Colonel Phil Waldron -- 'who circulated a proposal to challenge the 2020 election, including by declaring a national security emergency and seizing paper ballots' -- was in constant contact with Mark Meadows. The WaPo reports, "Philip Waldron, the retired colonel, was working with Trump’s outside lawyers and was part of a team that briefed the lawmakers on a PowerPoint presentation detailing 'Options for 6 JAN,' Waldron told The Washington Post. He said his contribution to the presentation focused on his claims of foreign interference in the vote, as did his discussions with the White House. A version of the presentation made its way to the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, on Jan. 5. That information surfaced publicly this week after the congressional committee investigating the insurrection released a letter that said Meadows had turned the document over to the committee."www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-powerpoint/And more to come..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 6:14:46 GMT
"A retired U.S. Army colonel who circulated a proposal to challenge the 2020 election, including by declaring a national security emergency and seizing paper ballots, said that he visited the White House on multiple occasions after the election, spoke with President Donald Trump’s chief of staff “maybe eight to 10 times” and briefed several members of Congress on the eve of the Jan. 6 riot. Phil Waldron, the retired colonel, was working with Trump’s outside lawyers and was part of a team that briefed the lawmakers on a PowerPoint presentation detailing “Options for 6 JAN,” Waldron told The Washington Post. He said his contribution to the presentation focused on his claims of foreign interference in the vote, as did his discussions with the White House.
A version of the presentation made its way to the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, on Jan. 5. That information surfaced publicly this week after the congressional committee investigating the insurrection released a letter that said Meadows had turned the document over to the committee." www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/phil-waldron-mark-meadows-powerpoint/2021/12/11/4ea67938-59df-11ec-9a18-a506cf3aa31d_story.html
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Post by casii on Dec 12, 2021 18:36:16 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson's historical perspective What I really appreciate about her is that she waits until she has multiple confirmation sources before she shares her perspective. And her perspective seems to be that it's worse than most people think it was.
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Post by wasil on Dec 12, 2021 18:37:24 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson did comment on that post saying she was looking for further confirmation. At this point, it's pretty solid that this is the real deal, so I look forward to her breakdown. But she's not major media. The fact that the media could wax eloquent on Clinton's emails every day leading up to the election, but this is missing from media discourse for the most part shows me that if the media doesn't get on board to help save democracy, they've forgotten what fascist countries do to journalists. Exactly this!!
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 12, 2021 19:33:58 GMT
The timeline of events and how close we came to having the election overturned is really scary. I would love to see everyone involved with that power point thrown in jail, but I'm not optimistic that will happen. In case anyone else has trouble, here's the link heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-11-2021
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 12, 2021 21:42:23 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 13, 2021 0:13:22 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Dec 13, 2021 0:30:12 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson did comment on that post saying she was looking for further confirmation. At this point, it's pretty solid that this is the real deal, so I look forward to her breakdown. But she's not major media. The fact that the media could wax eloquent on Clinton's emails every day leading up to the election, but this is missing from media discourse for the most part shows me that if the media doesn't get on board to help save democracy, they've forgotten what fascist countries do to journalists. Jamal Khashoggi should be a lesson to all the media Not only what happened to him but by our governments turning a blind eye to what happened
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Post by hop2 on Dec 13, 2021 0:55:52 GMT
The timeline of events and how close we came to having the election overturned is really scary. I would love to see everyone involved with that power point thrown in jail, but I'm not optimistic that will happen. In case anyone else has trouble, here's the link heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-11-2021No As I’ve said since January everyone involved needs to be tried for treason. It was treason. It was not just some trespassing offense that should get a few months slap on the of a wrist sentence. It was treason. It was treason, try them for treason and sentence them for treason if they are convicted.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 13, 2021 1:49:18 GMT
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Post by dizzycheermom on Dec 13, 2021 18:41:44 GMT
Where are you getting that he was threatened? He didn’t want to turn over texts and emails which legally were supposed to have already been turned over. So he clammed up. Seems likely that there is very damning evidence there. It's just an assumption. Trump has a history of making people reverse course on their actions against him. Remember, he had a "fixer" for a lawyer. Not much math involved to solve the equation. Sorry I read and didn't consider you were talking about trump lol! yes entirely possible. But I still think all the more damning evidence was on his personal phone.
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