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Post by aj2hall on Dec 15, 2021 1:00:07 GMT
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Post by Merge on Dec 15, 2021 1:30:40 GMT
Are they canceling finals? This is finals week for my girls.
I seriously doubt that any university in Texas will go virtual again. My kids are boosted and good about wearing masks. That’s really all I can control at this point.
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Post by peabay on Dec 15, 2021 1:47:11 GMT
It’s so interesting because they were the gold standard last year in keeping kids on campus. Everyone was saying “well, look at Cornell can do it.”
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Dec 15, 2021 1:54:50 GMT
We are in the middle of finals here, and most classes have been remote since Thanksgiving (except STEM and labs/clinical—they pretty much are in person the entire semester).
It will be interesting in January.
I had an advising appointment with one of my Healthcare MBA students yesterday. He is an ICU doctor, and he looked absolutely exhausted in the Zoom meeting. He told me that they are very worried about the numbers now, and he expects this winter to be very bad again. We were meeting to work out a plan of study to reduce his workload for the spring term in anticipation of a crazy ICU schedule.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 15, 2021 1:57:29 GMT
Amherst is also basically asking parents to come get their kids if possible.
I don't know what things are going to look like in the spring. Who -- WHO? -- could have predicted COVID outbreaks after Thanksgiving?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 15, 2021 1:59:11 GMT
Are they canceling finals? This is finals week for my girls. I seriously doubt that any university in Texas will go virtual again. My kids are boosted and good about wearing masks. That’s really all I can control at this point. Finals are either remote, optional or postponed until January-with corresponding I, at discretion of professor.
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Post by compeateropeator on Dec 15, 2021 2:53:05 GMT
Middlebury College announced on last Thursday that it was doing fully remote, including exams, for it’s last week before break. And they are encouraging students who can leave early to do so.
They have had 49 students and one employee have test positive, with 34 of those cases being new. 99 % of the student population is vaccinated. Their undergraduate enrollment is only 2858.
I have not heard that UVM is though.
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Post by Megan on Dec 15, 2021 2:53:24 GMT
Our preK-8 let parents know they were considering being virtual for 1-8 the week after the holiday break but as of now they'll be in person.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 15, 2021 2:59:38 GMT
My son is taking this year off but his university announced they will require the booster for students, faculty and staff to return in January. There is going to be a small cohort of kids whose entire high school or collegiate experience was shaped and limited because of Covid.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 15, 2021 2:59:41 GMT
Wow, I hadn't seen Cornell's latest numbers - more than 900 cases. I'm really worried what spring semester is going to look like. Unlike last year, so many school have a more traditional schedule. My daughter's restarting classes January 5th. We were so grateful for a semi-normal semester. They have zero issue continuing to wear masks indoors, but remote classes is something totally different.
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Post by ~summer~ on Dec 15, 2021 4:04:56 GMT
Interesting. My two college kids are on a quarter system and are both home already. I wonder if omicron is driving case rates up but not hospitalization rates. It seems to be infectious plus infect vaccinated people but cases are mild.
We are supposed to fly to nyc soon and I just looked and their cases have really risen.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Dec 15, 2021 13:24:26 GMT
University of Maryland is still open. They are 99% vaccinated and in the last week they had 0.72% who tested were positive. They had 42 positive cases and with a school this large, it isn't alarming. They said they were expecting this with the Thanksgiving break but the classes are still in person as well as finals.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Dec 15, 2021 13:26:34 GMT
Interesting. My two college kids are on a quarter system and are both home already. I wonder if omicron is driving case rates up but not hospitalization rates. It seems to be infectious plus infect vaccinated people but cases are mild. We are supposed to fly to nyc soon and I just looked and their cases have really risen. This is accurate. Omicron mixed with the common cold so it is going to spread like the cold. People need to keep their wits about them. This has not shown to be more deadly. If we keep wearing masks, it will work. England has already hit the plateau for Omicron. Most likely by the end of January, we will as well.
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Post by elaine on Dec 15, 2021 16:37:19 GMT
Interesting. My two college kids are on a quarter system and are both home already. I wonder if omicron is driving case rates up but not hospitalization rates. It seems to be infectious plus infect vaccinated people but cases are mild. We are supposed to fly to nyc soon and I just looked and their cases have really risen. Hospitalization rates are going up. A number of hospitals are coming close to capacity again. 30% of the USA population is still not vaccinated. That leaves approximately 98.85 million people that are able to contract a severe case of COVID and fill hospital beds.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 15, 2021 16:45:52 GMT
Interesting. My two college kids are on a quarter system and are both home already. I wonder if omicron is driving case rates up but not hospitalization rates. It seems to be infectious plus infect vaccinated people but cases are mild. We are supposed to fly to nyc soon and I just looked and their cases have really risen. This is accurate. Omicron mixed with the common cold so it is going to spread like the cold. People need to keep their wits about them. This has not shown to be more deadly. If we keep wearing masks, it will work. England has already hit the plateau for Omicron. Most likely by the end of January, we will as well. The thing is now that my family is vaccinated and the three adults here are boosted, I am not particularly worried about us getting very sick or dying of COViD (although dh has a heart condition so I do worry about him, because he is one of those medically compromised people I have heard just have to deal with the risks out there because why should healthy people take basic precautions when they are not personally much at risk of dying or whatever). What I am very worried about is hospitals getting filled up with unvaccinated and medically vulnerable folks, burning out medical personnel and making it difficult to get non-COVID medical care.
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Post by ~summer~ on Dec 15, 2021 16:48:22 GMT
This is accurate. Omicron mixed with the common cold so it is going to spread like the cold. People need to keep their wits about them. This has not shown to be more deadly. If we keep wearing masks, it will work. England has already hit the plateau for Omicron. Most likely by the end of January, we will as well. The thing is now that my family is vaccinated and the three adults here are boosted, I am not particularly worried about us getting very sick or dying of COViD (although dh has a heart condition so I do worry about him, because he is one of those medically compromised people I have heard just have to deal with the risks out there because why should healthy people take basic precautions when they are not personally much at risk of dying or whatever). What I am very worried about is hospitals getting filled up with unvaccinated and medically vulnerable folks, burning out medical personnel and making it difficult to get non-COVID medical care. I’m 100% with you on all points.
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Post by anonaname on Dec 15, 2021 18:11:18 GMT
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Post by MichyM on Dec 15, 2021 18:15:37 GMT
This is accurate. Omicron mixed with the common cold so it is going to spread like the cold. People need to keep their wits about them. This has not shown to be more deadly. If we keep wearing masks, it will work. England has already hit the plateau for Omicron. Most likely by the end of January, we will as well. The thing is now that my family is vaccinated and the three adults here are boosted, I am not particularly worried about us getting very sick or dying of COViD (although dh has a heart condition so I do worry about him, because he is one of those medically compromised people I have heard just have to deal with the risks out there because why should healthy people take basic precautions when they are not personally much at risk of dying or whatever). What I am very worried about is hospitals getting filled up with unvaccinated and medically vulnerable folks, burning out medical personnel and making it difficult to get non-COVID medical care. Yup. According to the news last night, our state is short 6,000 nurses. If we have another large outbreak, the medical system is going to be overwhelmed pretty darn quick.
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Post by sabrinae on Dec 15, 2021 18:31:55 GMT
This is accurate. Omicron mixed with the common cold so it is going to spread like the cold. People need to keep their wits about them. This has not shown to be more deadly. If we keep wearing masks, it will work. England has already hit the plateau for Omicron. Most likely by the end of January, we will as well. The thing is now that my family is vaccinated and the three adults here are boosted, I am not particularly worried about us getting very sick or dying of COViD (although dh has a heart condition so I do worry about him, because he is one of those medically compromised people I have heard just have to deal with the risks out there because why should healthy people take basic precautions when they are not personally much at risk of dying or whatever). What I am very worried about is hospitals getting filled up with unvaccinated and medically vulnerable folks, burning out medical personnel and making it difficult to get non-COVID medical care. We are definitely seeing this where I live. Low vaccination rates, Covid cases rising and no beds available for anyone. My 94 year old grandmother spent four nights in an Er as none of the hospitals in the closest city had any available beds and the local hospital didn’t have a bed to admit her to as they waited for a transfer bed.
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Post by gina on Dec 15, 2021 18:45:57 GMT
Adelphi on Long Island is still in person for this last week of finals. My daughter is on campus today.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 15, 2021 21:16:12 GMT
I have no idea who that guy is and am not really interested in watching a video of some random guy on you tube. He's not worried about omicron, clearly you're not concerned and I know Republicans think it's some crazy scheme by the liberals to win mid term elections. Instead of listening to some random guy on you tube, I choose to listen to doctors and scientists and trusted news sources. www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/12/15/1064432010/omicron-spread-variant-coronavirusEarly data from South Africa links the variant to fewer hospitalizations, but experts warn that dynamic might not be the same for every country, saying South Africa's situation could have more to do with the very high proportion of its citizens who've previously been infected with COVID-19. And because of the high transmission rate, health officials are bracing for a wave of new patients, just the same.
"Even if omicron does cause less severe disease, the sheer number of cases could once again overwhelm unprepared health systems," Tedros said.
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/15/1064202754/omicron-evades-moderna-vaccine-too-study-suggests-but-boosters-helpThese findings are similar to those of studies done in labs on the blood of people who had gotten the Pfizer vaccine. Those also showed that people's antibodies were markedly less potent against omicron.hub.jhu.edu/2021/12/10/omicron-public-health-on-call/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/14/omicron-us-spread/The prevalence of omicron jumped sevenfold in a single week, according to the CDC, and at such a pace, the highly mutated variant of the coronavirus could ratchet up pressure on a health system already strained in many places as the delta variant continues its own surge.www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/15/world/covid-omicron-vaccinesI'm not panicked, but there's reasonable cause for concern. So far, this variant seems less likely to cause severe illness. However, the vaccines are not as effective in preventing infection, unless you have a booster. And it's still early, so there's a lot of information we don't know. In NH, our hospitals are already overwhelmed and do not have room for a huge influx of patients. And if you think you're tired of covid, how do you think health care professionals feel right now? They are under a lot of pressure, they're overworked and understaffed. And some health care workers are even a little frustrated that most of the covid cases right now in the unvaccinated could have been prevented. As far as colleges, covid can spread rapidly in student housing, even on vaccinated campuses. My son's college, Connecticut College, has done a great job so far dealing with covid. I just hope they will have close to a normal spring semester with in person classes.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 15, 2021 21:36:46 GMT
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Post by maryannscraps on Dec 15, 2021 22:03:14 GMT
aj2hall I always appreciated your sourced and reasoned posts. With sources that actually use fact checkers. As far as omicron goes, I'm happy my family and I are all fully vaccinated (with boosters), so it's a concern but not too scary to me yet. A friend is head of one of the departments at Wentworth Douglass Hospital, and they're so slammed they're getting National Guard help. And omicron isn't even the prevalent variant yet. He said everyone is just exhausted, and this wave is just getting going.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 15, 2021 22:42:29 GMT
aj2hall I always appreciated your sourced and reasoned posts. With sources that actually use fact checkers. As far as omicron goes, I'm happy my family and I are all fully vaccinated (with boosters), so it's a concern but not too scary to me yet. A friend is head of one of the departments at Wentworth Douglass Hospital, and they're so slammed they're getting National Guard help. And omicron isn't even the prevalent variant yet. He said everyone is just exhausted, and this wave is just getting going. Thank you. My Dh works for WDH, too. A family we know spent 9 hours there recently waiting for stitches for their kid. They put emergency protocols into place for the ER because they’re so overwhelmed. This was before the arrival of the National Guard. I’m not sure if the protocols are still in place or if it was temporary. Essentially, the protocols prioritize people they can save. If anyone arrives at the ER with low chances of survival, they’re being sent home. That includes the unvaccinated with Covid because their survival chances are lower. Regrettably, it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better. Winter is just starting and the holidays are coming up. More people will be gathering indoors.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 16, 2021 3:47:41 GMT
My husband teaches at a college and his last final was on the 6th. He was so happy to finish up this semester.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 16, 2021 5:02:22 GMT
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Post by jewelie121 on Dec 16, 2021 18:13:21 GMT
My son’s school, George Washington University, sent an email yesterday stating that they were going virtual for the rest of the semester. He had an in person final next Tuesday (which will now be online) and was coming home on Wednesday, so we’re trying to get him to change his flight and come home earlier - like today.
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 16, 2021 18:47:35 GMT
My 2 are coming home tomorrow from 2 different universities that had outbreaks especially around Thanksgiving and have been pretty much a shitshow regarding testing, isolation, quarantine, professors refusing accommodations for sick students so sick students not testing and still going to class...they made it through finals week apparently though. And most of the parents in the Facebook groups seem to think it’s a hoax and masks and remote classes are tyranny and their kid wants a vaccine exemption...
My 2 both have booster appointments for Sat and I’m cancelling going to holiday dinner with extended family on Christmas. I don’t think everyone is vaccinated and it’s not a political climate to even enquire about. Ugh. Not sure what to do with my boosted parents though they will each be totally alone if they don’t come here. 😬 hoping the weather is nice enough for open windows.
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Post by Peal on Dec 16, 2021 18:55:24 GMT
My son has done all his classes on line since fall 2020. Next semester is online as well. He had to provide proof of vaccination before he could register for spring semester. That said, we live in a area that doesn't have the political will to close schools for Covid. It's over here, apparently.
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