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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 17, 2021 6:15:41 GMT
Confession: I take 1500 photos on a 4 day trip. -Detail: I take 300 without my SO having to participate.. I'd like him to participate in a lot more, but I know better.. boredom sets in and he tries, but he's done. Anyway. I'm a mom of 2 kids (not my SO's) and I have scrapbooked for over 20 years. It has always been for me. My life. My perspective. I don't think that will change lol BUT! For the first time ever, someone feels vested in my albums. If you asked my kids to name 5 things about me, scrapbooks wouldn't be one LOL Even though they could open a presidential library and have plenty to work with for their early years  Anyway.. We went on a massive, amazing trip this summer. I took +\- 1500 photos in 14 days. Of course 200 are probably included. I am finishing the book tonight.. and he's been looking forward to it for months.... It's 100% my perspective, and 75% "our" experience. Do yall feel guilty or some type of way about making sure to include highlights of your partners moments? For example... the day I took a helicopter ride to a glacier and mushed the Iditarod Champion team.. I made like 5 spread in a (chunky 6X8) album. He did an ATV ride that day.. I didn't include it. Honestly, the photos he gave me weren't great. And.... well. Hello... I took a helicopter to a glacier and visited the Iditarod Champion team!!! And, I'm making the album. Obviously, I'm coming to terms with me/vs we.... and I LOVE WE!! This man is my person (4+ years!) It's just that I put alot of effort into scrapbooks.. and they are.. mine. I came to terms with that a very long time ago. Just like I might include a Halloween pic of my sister with my niece.. but not a whole crazy mess. How do I explain this, because this is how my mojo works?! |
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Post by honeypea on Dec 17, 2021 8:09:59 GMT
Ha!!!! I’m also putting an Alaska trip book together! I had a heck of a time which sled dog puppy selfies to include. 😂 I spent 5 hours on it today. Trying to finish alllllll if the assembly while my husband is on an overnight trip. The mini album is a Christmas surprise!
Usually scrapbooking is 95% me. I will include things that I was not present for once in awhile, but try to get the participants to fill a journal card or at least dictate some info. In the case of this Alaska album, I’m including a photo of my husband’s huge salmon catch, although I wasn’t there and seriously know nothing about that excursion, because it was a highlight bucket list type event for him.
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Post by mikklynn on Dec 17, 2021 12:43:30 GMT
My scrapbooks are mine, in the sense that DH doesn't really look at them very much. I do it for my own pleasure.
I do include "his" adventures, even if the photos are bad. I've learned bad photos are better than no photos.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 17, 2021 14:03:36 GMT
I think it doesn't really matter what any of the rest of us do, you should feel free to do you, however that is.
As my kids are growing older, I'm doing less and less about them and more about me. I'm trying to journal more than I did in the past. I am including my DH in the pages. I am including my kids in the pages, but I'm doing more project life now, and at this point, I'm just slipping photos they take in page protectors with names and dates and I'm not even worrying anymore about scrapbooking them or trying to narrate. I'll give you an example. My DH took a camping trip with his family in June and there were a handful of pictures from him and lots of pics from his uncle who is an amateur photographer. I went through the pictures and took what I wanted, slipped them into my project life album with descriptions of where they were taken and that's it. I did the same with my stepdaughter's college cheerleading photos. I just slipped them in. I do want to be able to see other people's experiences, but I'm not telling their stories.
The meat of my scrapbooking is about me. And I'm cool with that. Once upon a time, I thought I was scrapbooking for my kids. But more and more I feel that these albums are really for me. And maybe future generations will want to see them and maybe they won't. (I would totally love to see scrapbooks of my grandparents, etc.) If no one else cares, I'm cool with that. I recently went through some scrapbooks looking for a particular picture of my brother and I noticed that some pages are in disarray. Like chipboard letters have fallen off, etc. I'm not going back and fixing those either. It is what it is.
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Post by msliz on Dec 17, 2021 16:50:27 GMT
For the last 23+ years, my scrapbooking has been for my children. I decided last year that 2021 will be the last family album I make. My youngest DD graduated high school, and I'm ready for a change.
I've decided to start a more "me centered" scrapbook going forward.
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Post by jediannie on Dec 17, 2021 17:02:34 GMT
I've been scrapbooking for longer than I've been married and had a kid so it's always been for me. My family understands that I do this for a creative outlet so I don't think they have any expectations beyond that. That being said, if my family wanted more of their "story" in my scrapbooks I would definitely add what they wanted.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 17, 2021 17:16:59 GMT
I don't have kids so my albums have always been about my life and from my POV. I really like incorporating my SO's stories in my albums, however. If he's taken pictures and sent them to me, I'm definitely doing something with them. It's not as if he were expecting me to do a special album just for him but he really enjoys flipping through mine and he's an important part of my life. |
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Post by scrappyrabbit on Dec 17, 2021 17:24:06 GMT
I 100% scrapbook from my perspective. The way I see it, I am documenting my day-to-day life, not someone else's. (One major caveat here is that I have made albums for other people, so obviously that is for them and not me.) I don't make pages of my husband's golf outings, bike outings, etc. But in the case you described, of a family vacation album, I would probably include those pics because it is a special kind of album.
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Post by jenna on Dec 17, 2021 17:28:24 GMT
It's your hobby and outlet, there's nothing wrong with it just being from your POV! My books are for me/about me but I also enjoy adding things from my SO's pov because our lives intertwine together and it helps me feel connected to things he does with his friends, at work, etc.
Maybe if it isn't too much trouble you guys can make one of those photobooks together with photos and little captions about your trip? That way he has something to look back on and remember "oh yeah that was a fun outing" or "we loved that meal!" or something? Might be a nice compromise.
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Post by don on Dec 17, 2021 17:40:30 GMT
I am glad to see this "movement". I have seen a lot of work by others by going thru the galleries on various boards over the years, and seen few scrappers. I believe it was because they were taking the photos. Now, with cell cameras (with a phone app) it seems selfies are allowing scrappers to be more involved on the pages.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 17, 2021 17:53:36 GMT
I am glad to see this "movement". I have seen a lot of work by others by going thru the galleries on various boards over the years, and seen few scrappers. I believe it was because they were taking the photos. Now, with cell cameras (with a phone app) it seems selfies are allowing scrappers to be more involved on the pages. You make a really good point. For years and years too, I was the only person at the event with a camera. Now everyone has one. And can share pictures easily. I am actually in the pictures now!  |
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Post by dig-it-al on Dec 17, 2021 18:39:49 GMT
I am just beginning the transition into scrapbooking now that we are empty nesters. My previous scrapbooking style has been 2 page spreads with LOTS of photos. Recent vacations I made myself take less pictures and just enjoy the experience. Now that I have less photos, I do more artistic one-page layouts using smaller wallet size photos. Maybe you could apply that same philosophy to your husbands pictures. Do something out of your ordinary but still have some photos and documented a piece of his experience during that same vacation.
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Post by Elsabelle on Dec 17, 2021 21:45:21 GMT
DH would be pleasantly surprised to see a layout of something he experienced without the rest of us but he wouldn’t give it a second thought after looking at the layout once and he wouldn’t miss it if I didn’t scrap it. Which doesn’t make him a bad guy. He’s actually pretty awesome and is always suggesting that I buy new supplies. I don’t want to look at his new fishing lures or the fish he’s caught either.
I started scrapbooking for my kids and somewhere along the way I realized that they didn’t care that much so I started scrapping for me. It’s mostly family events with some “moments” type layouts sprinkled in. I’m happy with how I scrap and what I scrap. No obligation to scrap what I don’t want to scrap.
Well, besides the behemoth of a Disney album that I’m almost halfway through. 😒
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 17, 2021 22:09:42 GMT
I can only scrapbook from my own perspective. Unless they write the journaling, it will always only be my perspective. DH is not interested in participating and I’m okay with that. It’s my hobby, not his. I’m reminded of this often as DS and I discuss memories and the way we remember situations are sometimes completely different. Sometimes, because it was less important to one of us, we may not remember at all. DH always says, “remember that time…” and I’ll have no recollection at all, even though he remembers in detail and I was definitely there.
I always describe my scrapbooking as a diary of my life. Sometimes my family have guest starring roles, but it’s my show.
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Post by mom on Dec 17, 2021 22:48:53 GMT
Confession: I take 1500 photos on a 4 day trip. -Detail: I take 300 without my SO having to participate.. I'd like him to participate in a lot more, but I know better.. boredom sets in and he tries, but he's done. Anyway. I'm a mom of 2 kids (not my SO's) and I have scrapbooked for over 20 years. It has always been for me. My life. My perspective. I don't think that will change lol BUT! For the first time ever, someone feels vested in my albums. If you asked my kids to name 5 things about me, scrapbooks wouldn't be one LOL Even though they could open a presidential library and have plenty to work with for their early years Anyway.. We went on a massive, amazing trip this summer. I took +\- 1500 photos in 14 days. Of course 200 are probably included. I am finishing the book tonight.. and he's been looking forward to it for months.... It's 100% my perspective, and 75% "our" experience. Do yall feel guilty or some type of way about making sure to include highlights of your partners moments? For example... the day I took a helicopter ride to a glacier and mushed the Iditarod Champion team.. I made like 5 spread in a (chunky 6X8) album. He did an ATV ride that day.. I didn't include it. Honestly, the photos he gave me weren't great. And.... well. Hello... I took a helicopter to a glacier and visited the Iditarod Champion team!!! And, I'm making the album. Obviously, I'm coming to terms with me/vs we.... and I LOVE WE!! This man is my person (4+ years!) It's just that I put alot of effort into scrapbooks.. and they are.. mine. I came to terms with that a very long time ago. Just like I might include a Halloween pic of my sister with my niece.. but not a whole crazy mess. How do I explain this, because this is how my mojo works?! I scrapbook for me. But I also include anything 'significant' that DH or my adult sons do that I can get a photo from. Sometimes I let them write the journaling and some times I just put the facts down. Its important to me that they are included as much as I can but I also know I am the one who its for. Sure, they will look through my albums but I don't think anyone would care if I didn't scrapbook. So with a trip album, I would include anything DH did that I could get photos of that was not normal. Maybe the photos suck -- so I will see if I can find a photo online to use. Or maybe I just use his crap photo and it is what it is (maybe using the crappy photo will encourage him to send you better photos!). |
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Post by carolynhasacat on Dec 18, 2021 1:40:22 GMT
My DH "scrapbooks" his own memories, mostly on facebook posts, which I steal and incorporate into my scrapbooks. He never makes me feel like scrapbooking is anything but for me, but loves that I include his voice and photos, too.
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Post by myboysnme on Dec 18, 2021 18:19:57 GMT
I have always scrapbooked for others, as though the albums will belong to them and not me. Of course it is from my perspective but I try to focus on what is important to them.
My husband doesn't do much anymore that is photographed other than the normal family stuff. I used to scrap some teacher layouts for him and when he won teacher of the year, but in recent yeas I may scrap his school photo and maybe not.
I really would like to get my own life fully scrapped but I have about 15 years between age 18 and 33 that need to be done. That will be so my family will know about my life. But I will do it with them in mind not myself.
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Post by boymom5 on Dec 18, 2021 18:45:57 GMT
I’m at a completely different stage of life, still involved with the kids and family stuff. I do it for my creative outlet but also because I love photography and memory keeping. I do my best to incorporate all memories, even when the pictures aren’t great (cause some of those are my own too!). I also have a different situation which my kids all love looking through the books, although DH doesn’t, I include his adventures the best I can because those are memories for my kids too. I can see how your situation is different but if he’s looking forward to the book I’d probably incorporate his memories too. But that’s just me.
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Post by KikiPea on Dec 18, 2021 19:31:06 GMT
Yes, I scrapbook for me, meaning that no one is going to care about my albums once I die, since we don’t have kids. But, I scrap a lot of stuff about us. I’d say that he is probably included in at least 75-80% of everything I scrap that isn’t food, or our dogs.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 18, 2021 23:15:41 GMT
If I can get pictures from someone else, I'll scrap them. I might not be as detailed as I could be though.
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Post by PaperAngel on Dec 18, 2021 23:40:43 GMT
If I followed the OP, it appears your partner supports your hobby. While he isn't interested in creating layouts, he looks forward to your completed vacation album. It's unclear how he disagrees with your choice to scrapbook for yourself. Is he upset that you only scrapped your helicopter ride & excluded his separate ATV adventure from your 6x8 album? Consider using a divided page protector or create a simple grid layout with his ATV photos, a simple title, the date, & lines for him to add journaling if he chooses. You can either add it to your album or start a new one for him to collect your adventures together!
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 2:43:06 GMT
If I followed the OP, it appears your partner supports your hobby. While he isn't interested in creating layouts, he looks forward to your completed vacation album. It's unclear how he disagrees with your choice to scrapbook for yourself. Is he upset that you only scrapped your helicopter ride & excluded his separate ATV adventure from your 6x8 album? Consider using a divided page protector or create a simple grid layout with his ATV photos, a simple title, the date, & lines for him to add journaling if he chooses. You can either add it to your album or start a new one for him to collect your adventures together! I think you followed well He totally supports my hobby. And, he is in no way (in hell) interested in creating layouts. Also, on his phone, which has carry over photos from the last 3 phones, he probably has a total of 300 photos, and of those, I've probably taken well over half. He's a very good storyteller, and from time to time will even write a little about a small story for me, I love when he does that. He also knows that I am a screenshotter and will screen shot a text convo and include it if it strikes me lol He's not upset, at all. He hasn't even seen the album, and I know he won't be upset. I'm about 95% done with it, and while flipping through, I'm seeing he isn't represented in there a whole lot. Whereas on most of other other travels (before and since) he is super "present." I think it's because Alaska was totally a bucket list trip, for both of us, but the trip looked kind of different for us, and several days we both did our own thing and came together later in the day for dinner. Truthfully, that's one of the things I love so much about our relationship. We both have alot of interests. When we're around home or even on some low key trips, he likes to golf, so I'll golf a few rounds, I like to hike, he'll do some light hiking. On this trip, we both did alot separately, because it isn't a trip we'll likely repeat anytime soon, and he didn't want to spend his days hiking backcountry Denali, or chasing dogs on a glacier or fishing... And I didn't want to spend my days golfing, having lunch with the guys, ATVing or the like. LOL and when we were together, it was moose or bears or glaciers getting top billing in the photos and stories, so different from the normal resort or visiting a city or family or friends. I hope that makes sense.... I reread my post... and I see what I wrote was inadvertently a bit misleading. He hasn't seen it yet, and he may not find it to be lopsided at all. We just went to Vegas in mid Nov, FL for Thanksgiving and Old Quebec City last weekend.. And I just ordered the photos.. Those photos include other people (especially him!) in a large number of them. Maybe working on the Alaska book (why do I finally feel so inspired for that instead of DD!?) just highlighted how independent and focused the Alaska trip was... Also it was late and I'd had some wine |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 2:48:34 GMT
Ha!!!! I’m also putting an Alaska trip book together! I had a heck of a time which sled dog puppy selfies to include. 😂 I spent 5 hours on it today. Trying to finish alllllll if the assembly while my husband is on an overnight trip. The mini album is a Christmas surprise! Usually scrapbooking is 95% me. I will include things that I was not present for once in awhile, but try to get the participants to fill a journal card or at least dictate some info. In the case of this Alaska album, I’m including a photo of my husband’s huge salmon catch, although I wasn’t there and seriously know nothing about that excursion, because it was a highlight bucket list type event for him. Will you be sharing your album anywhere? I'm super over the moon nutty about this album!! I'd love to see what you're doing with yours! Mine is a mix of several AE travel collections, lots of ephemera, a few other papers and goodies here and there, and tons of photos, many out of the page protector and flip outs. I also learned how to do QR codes, just for this album (Harvard glacier had a massive calving and the sound and resulting wave is something I never, ever want to forget!! It sounds like your approach of including others is a bit like mine. Alot of times I get him to write something on a brochure, a map, a paper table cloth (take a photo or rip it off) in sharpie on hotel key card, on a receipt if it's big... or, alot of times too, capture some text convo. I love including him, but it is always very lopsided toward me. I just don't want him to look at it like... damn... was I there |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 2:54:01 GMT
I don't have kids so my albums have always been about my life and from my POV. I really like incorporating my SO's stories in my albums, however. If he's taken pictures and sent them to me, I'm definitely doing something with them. It's not as if he were expecting me to do a special album just for him but he really enjoys flipping through mine and he's an important part of my life. Samsies! Well.. I have kids, but, even then, it's still been from my point of view... I did/do sometimes write letters to my kids, or write my journaling in that way.. Because, someday they may read them hahahaha But really, in terms of the way the kids are thought of for me is that I want them to someday know who their mom REALLY was when they were little, and now that they are big, and as they continue getting older. The know if they share it on social media it's fair game and if I like it, I'll ask for it to be sent to me so it's better resolution. Usually though, I've trained them well enough to know to just send it to me! Daughter is close to 30 and son is just over 20, so they've known the deal the whole time hahahaha. My guy is still learning the ropes |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 2:58:52 GMT
I 100% scrapbook from my perspective. The way I see it, I am documenting my day-to-day life, not someone else's. (One major caveat here is that I have made albums for other people, so obviously that is for them and not me.) I don't make pages of my husband's golf outings, bike outings, etc. But in the case you described, of a family vacation album, I would probably include those pics because it is a special kind of album. This is kind of the little feeling in the back of my mind while I was looking at the album. I could probably dig up some more photos, but when I did the wade through, many of them didn't make the cut. Alot of the album included things we did together, but they were more about Alaska and the things we saw, and how I processed them and appreciated them. The truth is, he enjoyed the things we saw and did, but he's more of a tourist. I'm a traveler. I savor travel, and, honestly, Alaska really is my jam. I had alot of feelings, and alot to say. It's just hard to mix in a photo of the proshop hahaha. I may ask him to write something up just so I can specifically include it. |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 3:03:21 GMT
I am glad to see this "movement". I have seen a lot of work by others by going thru the galleries on various boards over the years, and seen few scrappers. I believe it was because they were taking the photos. Now, with cell cameras (with a phone app) it seems selfies are allowing scrappers to be more involved on the pages. You know, you're right. I didn't tie it to this "I was here, even if I did take the photo." When the kids were little, they literally WERE my life. My everything. And I wish I had more photos of US. But I never really thought to take them. I think that's one of the reasons AE spoke to me so much. I think she's the first scrappy person I really found inspiration from (we have a very similar timeline for alot of things...) who really included herself as part of the picture. Both personally and visually. Now, most of what I get is from the kids and a few words sometimes, these last few years I am focusing more me, and how I am living in this life. Thank you for the perspective. |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 3:05:20 GMT
I am just beginning the transition into scrapbooking now that we are empty nesters. My previous scrapbooking style has been 2 page spreads with LOTS of photos. Recent vacations I made myself take less pictures and just enjoy the experience. Now that I have less photos, I do more artistic one-page layouts using smaller wallet size photos. Maybe you could apply that same philosophy to your husbands pictures. Do something out of your ordinary but still have some photos and documented a piece of his experience during that same vacation. I like that idea. It's the opposite of my style. I kinda like the challenge!! Gives me a reason to take a couple of his oddball photos and do something with it!! Thank you! |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 3:12:23 GMT
DH would be pleasantly surprised to see a layout of something he experienced without the rest of us but he wouldn’t give it a second thought after looking at the layout once and he wouldn’t miss it if I didn’t scrap it. Which doesn’t make him a bad guy. He’s actually pretty awesome and is always suggesting that I buy new supplies. I don’t want to look at his new fishing lures or the fish he’s caught either. I started scrapbooking for my kids and somewhere along the way I realized that they didn’t care that much so I started scrapping for me. It’s mostly family events with some “moments” type layouts sprinkled in. I’m happy with how I scrap and what I scrap. No obligation to scrap what I don’t want to scrap. Well, besides the behemoth of a Disney album that I’m almost halfway through. 😒 You and I seem very similar in alot of regards. I think my guy is the same way. And I give him a ton of credit because he doesn't do much more than roll his eyes with a smile when I ask him to take a thousand photos (I think he kind of likes it!) and gets all excited when my Persnickety Prints order shows up! He loves to look at a few of the photos (once....) He has only flipped through a few albums (I'm 2 9X12's, a DD and at least one big trip travel album a year) in 4.5 years. But I know he's looking forward to this Alaska album. Patience of a saint! Girrrrrrl get that Disney album the minute that you feel the most inspired!! This Alaska trip was in June, journaling in June/July, the bones were put together in August-ish... And it sat til this week. All of the sudden, in the midst of DD season (of which I haven't made a page!) I feel super inspired. <3 Good luck! |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 19, 2021 3:13:29 GMT
I always describe my scrapbooking as a diary of my life. Sometimes my family have guest starring roles, but it’s my show. YES!! |
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Post by refugeepea on Dec 19, 2021 3:27:18 GMT
I scrap my family and rarely me because my life is boring. Do what you want. I rarely include the bad things because I could not care less if they are documented.
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