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Post by Merge on Dec 23, 2021 3:11:27 GMT
In most cities I’ve been in, people hustle in crosswalks because they’re aware that people are waiting to turn when they cross. Not in our nation’s capitol! Here in DC, citizens and tourists take their sweet effing time to cross the street. No hurry whatsoever as turning traffic backs up and several people miss that light cycle.
Seriously, if we had done this in New York I think we would have been killed on the spot. People in my home city of Houston move fast because I swear all the walk signs are 15 seconds or less. Chicago, LA, New Orleans, Nashville - I’ve never seen people move as slowly as they do here. LOL
So do you take your time and enjoy the sights while in the crosswalk? Or do you walk with purpose and show awareness of others?
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 23, 2021 3:19:50 GMT
Move it if someone is turning or something, otherwise I just walk.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 23, 2021 3:21:10 GMT
In most cities I’ve been in, people hustle in crosswalks because they’re aware that people are waiting to turn when they cross. Not in our nation’s capitol! Here in DC, citizens and tourists take their sweet effing time to cross the street. No hurry whatsoever as turning traffic backs up and several people miss that light cycle. Seriously, if we had done this in New York I think we would have been killed on the spot. People in my home city of Houston move fast because I swear all the walk signs are 15 seconds or less. Chicago, LA, New Orleans, Nashville - I’ve never seen people move as slowly as they do here. LOL So do you take your time and enjoy the sights while in the crosswalk? Or do you walk with purpose and show awareness of others? I would never in a million years sightsee from the crosswalk. I will mosy along if there isn't traffic, but I will normally hustle along if there's traffic waiting for me (because that's what I appreciate when I'm in the car).
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Dec 23, 2021 3:23:10 GMT
I haul ass. First off, I’ve got places to go and don’t mosy anywhere. And second, like you mentioned, it’s rude and dangerous to dawdle. That “free right turn on red” has given drivers the idea they barely need to stop, let alone wait for pedestrians.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Dec 23, 2021 3:25:56 GMT
My version of moving it is probably another person's version of moseying it. With a bad knee, I cannot move quickly.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Dec 23, 2021 3:32:41 GMT
Move it. I’m a fast walker.
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Post by ntsf on Dec 23, 2021 3:34:04 GMT
I walk a normal speed. we have a high level of pedestrian deaths.. so the time to cross has been lengthened..some roads are very wide.. so I expect drivers to wait their turn to make any turn at all.
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Post by muggins on Dec 23, 2021 3:43:12 GMT
I live near the most famous crossing in Japan. Sometimes 1000 people will cross at once. When tourists are here it’s a nightmare as many like to stop and pose for photos in the middle of the crossing which is dangerous. What annoys me right now are the people looking at their phones and not concentrating on what’s going on around them. And the people on bicycles who are trying to go through hundreds of people.
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Post by voltagain on Dec 23, 2021 3:45:17 GMT
My "fast" is rather slow but I do move as fast as I can. As a driver I have always been patient with people I can tell have a reason to move slow (people with canes or limps, moms with preschoolers, etc. Less patience for people on their phone moving like they are sitting on their sofa at home.
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Post by kiera on Dec 23, 2021 3:46:38 GMT
I'm a NYC native, I don't know how to mosy! Lol. The first time I went to Toronto I learned that crossing the street without having the walk signal when no cars are coming isn't a universal thing.... I learned by realizing after the third time I did it why people were looking at me funny. Whoops.
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Post by Merge on Dec 23, 2021 4:04:28 GMT
My "fast" is rather slow but I do move as fast as I can. As a driver I have always been patient with people I can tell have a reason to move slow (people with canes or limps, moms with preschoolers, etc. Less patience for people on their phone moving like they are sitting on their sofa at home. Yeah, people with some disability obviously get a pass. This has just been such a consistent thing during our trip from people of all ages that it doesn’t seem to be related to a physical inability to move more quickly. People are just lost in space for the most part.
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Post by Merge on Dec 23, 2021 4:09:09 GMT
I walk a normal speed. we have a high level of pedestrian deaths.. so the time to cross has been lengthened..some roads are very wide.. so I expect drivers to wait their turn to make any turn at all. Well yes, obviously drivers wait their turn. I just think it’s considerate as a walker to move with some speed so as not to needlessly hold up traffic. People turning left, for example, will not be able to turn after the light turns red, so if walkers take the entirety of the light cycle, then the whole left lane is stuck. And we noticed that the time to cross here is often upwards of 40 seconds, even on streets that are not so wide. That seems to incentivize people to move more slowly. We’ve been both drivers and pedestrians here in equal measure over the last four days.
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Post by jayfab on Dec 23, 2021 4:16:13 GMT
No mosying for me, I hoof it.
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Post by Jili on Dec 23, 2021 4:16:20 GMT
I walk with purpose. Crosswalks are no exception.
Lol I’m a fast walker, and I do hustle through crosswalks.
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Post by pjaye on Dec 23, 2021 4:44:45 GMT
I walk at my normal pace, that's what the crosswalks are for - for walkers to cross. I don't give a shit about drivers - they can wait their turn. I'm not running across the street because drivers think they are more important. ...and if you honk at me...then I will slow down to a snail's pace. Just after I had my back surgery I was going for short walks every day, but it was still quite slow going for me. I was already walking across a driveway when a car indicated to turn, and them promptly honked at me. I just stopped right in the middle. He tried the irritated hand gestures but I just watched him. Eventually he rolled down the window to scream at me. I pointed out the road rules to him that I had the right of way, and that I was walking slowly because I was recovering from major surgery, and now I needed to stop and rest...more screaming from him and he eventually drove off. I'm guessing he had to drive around the block. Arsehole. I was walking slowly - that's what happens when one leg doesn't work properly but I was walking, not doing anything like talking photos or texting etc...is it that hard to wait 30 seconds? This has just been such a consistent thing during our trip from people of all ages that it doesn’t seem to be related to a physical inability to move more quickly. Oh really? You can tell by looking at a fully clothed person walking across the road that they recently had surgery? Or that someone isn't feeling well after chemotherapy yesterday? How great it must be to have those psychic abilities to know everyone's physical abilities just be watching them from your car. Not all disabilities are visible.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 23, 2021 4:45:26 GMT
I will generally go fast if there are any cars around. I also tend look to see how much time I have if the crosswalk shows the countdown.
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Post by Merge on Dec 23, 2021 4:47:46 GMT
I walk at my normal pace, that's what the crosswalks are for - for walkers to cross. I don't give a shit about drivers - they can wait their turn. I'm not running across the street because drivers think they are more important. ...and if you honk at me...then I will slow down to a snail's pace. Just after I had my back surgery I was going for short walks every day, but it was still quite slow going for me. I was already walking across a driveway when a car indicated to turn, and them promptly honked at me. I just stopped right in the middle. He tried the irritated hand gestures but I just watched him. Eventually he rolled down the window to scream at me. I pointed out the road rules to him that I had the right of way, and that I was walking slowly because I was recovering from major surgery, and now I needed to stop and rest...more screaming from him and he eventually drove off. I'm guessing he had to drive around the block. Arsehole. I was walking slowly - that's what happens when one leg doesn't work properly but I was walking, not doing anything like talking photos or texting etc...is it that hard to wait 30 seconds? This has just been such a consistent thing during our trip from people of all ages that it doesn’t seem to be related to a physical inability to move more quickly. Oh really? You can tell by looking at a fully clothed person walking across the road that they recently had surgery? Or that someone isn't feeling well after chemotherapy yesterday? How great it must be to have those psychic abilities to know everyone's physical abilities just be watching them from your car. Not all disabilities are visible. Oh good lord. As I said, it’s been so consistent as to make it statistically unlikely that there’s a disability in every group. If you’re looking to pick a fight this evening, look elsewhere, please.
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Post by buddysmom on Dec 23, 2021 5:01:11 GMT
I'm the bad one...
I'm the one who walks, gazes around. "Wow, look at that, really cool, pretty, etc, etc."
I was in NYC years ago and stood in the street taking photos and someone yelled at me "I can't believe you are standing in the street taking photos!"
And yeah, also at Shibuya in Tokyo in the street taking photos (while walking pretty fast at least) .
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Post by pjaye on Dec 23, 2021 5:04:17 GMT
Oh good lord. As I said, it’s been so consistent as to make it statistically unlikely that there’s a disability in every group. I guess all those people I look after every single day in hospital who have surgery and are told to go for walks (you know to avoid blood clots etc) just ignore that advice and stay home? Do you not have the slightest concept how many people have surgery/procedures/chemo/significant illnesses? And probably 90% would show no evidence of that - except perhaps being a bit slower than your requirements. I'd be interested to know just how you would have been able to tell that I had back surgery 3 weeks ago when I was crossing the road?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 23, 2021 5:13:41 GMT
I haul ass. First off, I’ve got places to go and don’t mosy anywhere. And second, like you mentioned, it’s rude and dangerous to dawdle. That “free right turn on red” has given drivers the idea they barely need to stop, let alone wait for pedestrians. This is me too. It drives DH nuts because I always walk fast.
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Post by ModChick on Dec 23, 2021 5:15:39 GMT
I walk with purpose. Crosswalks are no exception. Lol I’m a fast walker, and I do hustle through crosswalks. Same. And I do a little jog if cars are waiting, and I wave my thanks and acknowledgement that they’re waiting. I’m pretty darn Canadian that way, sorry. ☺️😋😬
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Post by ntsf on Dec 23, 2021 5:40:25 GMT
I think walkers of all ages and abilities have the right of way and drivers can just wait. I don't care if they can't turn and have to wait for the next light. I don't care if they have to wait to turn right. stopping to take a picture is wrong, as is judging how fast someone "should" walk in crossing the street.
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Post by katlady on Dec 23, 2021 5:45:12 GMT
I walk pretty much at my normal pace, maybe a tad faster, but that's it. One time I was walking to the train station after work. I was walking a bit fast because I needed to catch my train. A car still honked at me! I stopped and looked at him, probably cost him another 5 seconds of his precious time. I don't stop and sightsee in a crosswalk though, not normally. At the Shibuya crossing in Japan, I quickly ran into the middle when the walk light came on, took my photo, then ran across to the other side. I had to be a "tourist"! And for those that don't know, the Shibuya "walk" signal comes on for all directions at the same time, so no cars are trying to turn at all when people are crossing. You just get in the way of other people, not cars.
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Post by chances on Dec 23, 2021 6:24:42 GMT
I think different cities have different cultures around this. I’m in a city near a college and people definitely dawdle. I have no expectation to turn when the walk signal is on. People purposefully take the whole time. I don’t mind that but the ones who walk against the light are so entitled and irritating.
I hurry across but then get mad at myself for putting other’s needs above my own. I trip and fall ALL THE TIME. The last thing I need to do is try to hurry across a street. So I do it and then chastise myself and try to walk at normal speed next time.
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Post by hookturnian on Dec 23, 2021 6:31:30 GMT
I walk at my normal pace, that's what the crosswalks are for - for walkers to cross. I don't give a shit about drivers - they can wait their turn. I'm not running across the street because drivers think they are more important. ...and if you honk at me...then I will slow down to a snail's pace. Just after I had my back surgery I was going for short walks every day, but it was still quite slow going for me. I was already walking across a driveway when a car indicated to turn, and them promptly honked at me. I just stopped right in the middle. He tried the irritated hand gestures but I just watched him. Eventually he rolled down the window to scream at me. I pointed out the road rules to him that I had the right of way, and that I was walking slowly because I was recovering from major surgery, and now I needed to stop and rest...more screaming from him and he eventually drove off. I'm guessing he had to drive around the block. Arsehole. I was walking slowly - that's what happens when one leg doesn't work properly but I was walking, not doing anything like talking photos or texting etc...is it that hard to wait 30 seconds? Oh really? You can tell by looking at a fully clothed person walking across the road that they recently had surgery? Or that someone isn't feeling well after chemotherapy yesterday? How great it must be to have those psychic abilities to know everyone's physical abilities just be watching them from your car. Not all disabilities are visible. Oh good lord. As I said, it’s been so consistent as to make it statistically unlikely that there’s a disability in every group. If you’re looking to pick a fight this evening, look elsewhere, please. Pedestrians have right of way in Australia. Jaywalking is also allowed outside of major cities. Our cities and suburbs are set up for walkers, cyclists, parents pushing prams, children, the elderly and infirm. We are not second class citizens if we are not in a vehicle.
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Post by voltagain on Dec 23, 2021 7:12:17 GMT
I walk at my normal pace, that's what the crosswalks are for - for walkers to cross. I don't give a shit about drivers - they can wait their turn. I'm not running across the street because drivers think they are more important. ...and if you honk at me...then I will slow down to a snail's pace. Just after I had my back surgery I was going for short walks every day, but it was still quite slow going for me. I was already walking across a driveway when a car indicated to turn, and them promptly honked at me. I just stopped right in the middle. He tried the irritated hand gestures but I just watched him. Eventually he rolled down the window to scream at me. I pointed out the road rules to him that I had the right of way, and that I was walking slowly because I was recovering from major surgery, and now I needed to stop and rest...more screaming from him and he eventually drove off. I'm guessing he had to drive around the block. Arsehole. I was walking slowly - that's what happens when one leg doesn't work properly but I was walking, not doing anything like talking photos or texting etc...is it that hard to wait 30 seconds? This has just been such a consistent thing during our trip from people of all ages that it doesn’t seem to be related to a physical inability to move more quickly. Oh really? You can tell by looking at a fully clothed person walking across the road that they recently had surgery? Or that someone isn't feeling well after chemotherapy yesterday? How great it must be to have those psychic abilities to know everyone's physical abilities just be watching them from your car. Not all disabilities are visible. Actually it is pretty easy to tell if someone is walking slow due to recent surgery, chemo or something other wise invisible. The tip is they aren't gazing down at their phone, gazing around in awe at the "sights" (aka gawking done by tourists).
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 23, 2021 8:57:20 GMT
I have always walked briskly as a courtesy to drivers, and to reduce the amount of time I’m in the road, which I feel is somewhat dangerous.
I have never had any trouble sorting between dawdlers, distracted walkers, and those whose health requires they walk slow. There are tons of body and facial giveaways.
When I lived in Lynnwood Ca, local young people made it a game to walk as slowly as possible in front of my car. They looked me in the eye the whole time, there was no misreading their cues.
I’m not an impatient driver. But I am fascinated by people and their behavior.
OP, I’ve never been to DC, that’s interesting. I have been to many large cities and it is definitely the norm for people to walk as smartly as their health allows. So much so, that it really stands out and is a statement when someone does not.
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Post by monklady123 on Dec 23, 2021 10:29:21 GMT
Lol. Welcome to the DC Metro area. hahaha (also, I didn't realize you were coming our way). What annoys me is when I'm trying to make a right turn and someone is shuffling along in the crosswalk on their phone. Around here -- and in many other large cities I'm sure -- this is a pretty good way to get yourself hit by a car since the phone person is obviously not paying any attention to traffic. It's mostly always the cool dude types, or young women. The "I'm so cool" saunter, accompanied by a stare at the car, is what annoys me. Yes, they have the right of way since they are pedestrians. Yes I have been a pedestrian. Yes I'm clearly not talking about older people or people with kids or strollers or any number of other pedestrian types. How's the trip going so far? Is this a general class trip? what grade?
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Post by maryannscraps on Dec 23, 2021 10:39:32 GMT
When I'm alone, I walk my normal pace. I don't hurry across unless I'm actually in a hurry. When I'm with DH or my mom, I go super slow since they're both disabled. And yes, DH has been honked at because he walks slowly.
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Post by smasonnc on Dec 23, 2021 10:59:35 GMT
I find a lot of clueless people moseying where I live and <<wears hard hat>> fat people are militant about strolling across a crosswalk, like, "FU, I'm taking my time." I walk fairly fast and try to be considerate.
Nice.
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