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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 24, 2021 2:33:21 GMT
Well okay…no civil conversation to be had here. Carry on ….. So what does “civil” mean exactly? Reading through the thread, it’s civil so far! Do you mean “compliant” where others just nod and agree with an opinion instead of providing facts that may negate the opinion? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 24, 2021 2:35:47 GMT
I honestly am sick that she was found guilty. What is next? Charge doctors and nurses for murder if a medical error kills someone? I agree. And yes—if doctors are negligent and make medical errors, they too should be held accountable. I’m actually shocked that one wouldn’t think that. |
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 24, 2021 2:40:09 GMT
She WAS NOT convicted of murder. Also, her taser and gun look nothing alike. There is so much wrong with what you posted it’s unbelievable. Why can people on this website not handle other opinions? and yes they don’t look alike but they feel alike in when under the stress of the situation…..her going to prison is wrong to me. But respect your opinion and will not chastise you for it Just reading this thread there are lots of posts correcting your information without chastising you. Other peas have already pointed out that she was convicted of manslaughter, not murder there are significant differences in how a taser feels vs how a gun feels they’re located on different sides of your body there are significant differences in how they’re removed from the holster She was a training officer and had more than 20 years of experience after she shot him, instead of helping she was more concerned about what would happen to her there are consequences for mistakes in medicine- medical malpractice some additional information www.npr.org/2021/12/23/1066012247/kim-potter-trial-daunte-wrightWhether Potter had intended to draw her Taser or handgun was not at issue in the trial. Lawyers for both sides agreed she mistakenly drew the wrong weapon. Instead, the trial centered on questions of whether she should have recognized she was holding the heavier metal gun or whether she should have drawn any weapon at all.Prosecutors did not dispute that the shooting was an accident. But they said that in her 26 years on the force, Potter had undergone extensive firearm and Taser training, including how to avoid confusing the two. They turned to use-of-force experts and the police department's policy handbook to argue that the use of a Taser was inappropriate to begin with."She drew a deadly weapon, she aimed it, she pointed it at Daunte Wright's chest and she fired," Assistant Attorney General Erin Eldridge said during the state's closing argument on Monday."This was no little oopsie. This was not putting the wrong date on a check. This was not entering the wrong password somewhere. This was a colossal screw-up, a blunder of epic proportions," Eldridge said. "It was precisely the thing she had been warned about for years, and she had been trained to prevent it."I think it’s also important to recognize that police officers are rarely held accountable for their actions. From the same article Potter is believed to be the third Minnesota police officer to be convicted in the on-duty death of a civilian. The first was Mohamed Noor, a Somali American officer found guilty of manslaughter after fatally shooting a white woman. Chauvin became the second when he was convicted of murder in April.In light of all of that information, if you still think she was wrongly convicted, you’re entitled to your own opinion. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 24, 2021 3:24:48 GMT
She shot at him as he was driving away. I don’t think she mixed up her taser and gun at all. I think she was trying to kill him. Did you see the actual video? |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 24, 2021 3:27:05 GMT
What bothered me the most was while he was dying, instead of offering him aid, she was worried she was going to go to prison. After nearly 20years of having a taser on her belt, in my opinion, she needed to know the difference instinctually. I’m happy with the verdict. He drove away and crashed. She was inconsolable with what she did. There were many other quailed police there also to give assistance to him |
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Post by peasquared on Dec 24, 2021 3:31:23 GMT
In the video I saw, she was on the ground with officers comforting her, chanting “I’m going to go to prison.”. They said it was immediately following.
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Post by edie3 on Dec 24, 2021 3:32:17 GMT
Charge doctors and nurses for murder if a medical error kills someone? As they should. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 24, 2021 3:48:16 GMT
Having the taser and gun on separate sides makes sense, and also makes it harder to make a mistake. But I could still see her making the mistake of part of her brain is thinking “he might have a gun” even though she is saying taser. I’m not sure. Not trying to make excuses for her but I know that sometimes I do stupid things that make no sense. Luckily they don’t have consequences like this, but I could see something like that happening, especially under stress.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 24, 2021 4:13:18 GMT
In the video I saw, she was on the ground with officers comforting her, chanting “I’m going to go to prison.”. They said it was immediately following. It was. But the car wasn’t right there. He drove off and crashed and died. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 24, 2021 4:15:56 GMT
Plus that isn’t all she said “I’m going to prison” I think her 1st words were along the line of oh my god, I shot him.
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Post by prapea on Dec 24, 2021 4:18:34 GMT
Only in our country, a black man is shot and we side with the cops.
If a doctor had done surgery on Mr.Wright and said, sorry he died because I cut his heart out but it was my mistake, he should have had his surgery for his knee….would you all say that you will feel bad for the doctor? If you do feel bad for the doctor in my example, then ….this country is completely fucked.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Dec 24, 2021 5:03:46 GMT
I have not really followed this story, and based on the many points offered here, it indeed sounds as though some type of penalty is warranted. Full stop.
As a person who struggles with anxiety, I have no earthly idea why people choose to go into law enforcement, medicine, etc. I would live every day in fear of taking someone's life and would never recover if I did. I'm glad there are those who feel called to serve because I could simply never do what they do.
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Post by busy on Dec 24, 2021 5:20:23 GMT
She cried on the stand so she shouldn’t go to jail? Good gravy.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 24, 2021 5:53:35 GMT
I understand that she might be a sympathetic defendant. She's not blatantly racist, she's a woman and she cried on the stand. However, none of that changes what she did. I posted this before, but I think it bears repeating. The trial didn't focus on her mistake, both sides agreed that it was an accident. The question is was she justified in drawing a taser in the first place and should she have known the difference? Also, she's only the 3rd officer ever in Minnesota to be held accountable for her actions. No one, including police officers, should be completely protected from liability and responsibility for their actions. And we need to end these routine traffic stops that result in unnecessary deaths of black men. more information about qualified immunity www.npr.org/2021/10/18/1047085626/supreme-court-police-qualified-immunity-cases |
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Post by oliquig on Dec 24, 2021 8:55:21 GMT
Having the taser and gun on separate sides makes sense, and also makes it harder to make a mistake. But I could still see her making the mistake of part of her brain is thinking “he might have a gun” even though she is saying taser. I’m not sure. Not trying to make excuses for her but I know that sometimes I do stupid things that make no sense. Luckily they don’t have consequences like this, but I could see something like that happening, especially under stress. But you’re not a trained police officer, who has specific training on this situation. She is. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 24, 2021 9:28:16 GMT
Now compare what Potter did to Rittenhouse did.
And look at the sentencing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 24, 2021 10:16:18 GMT
She WAS NOT convicted of murder. Also, her taser and gun look nothing alike. There is so much wrong with what you posted it’s unbelievable. Why can people on this website not handle other opinions? and yes they don’t look alike but they feel alike in when under the stress of the situation…..her going to prison is wrong to me. But respect your opinion and will not chastise you for it Oh and no one “owes” you civility for YOUR opinion. |
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Post by putabuttononit on Dec 24, 2021 20:22:15 GMT
A heartbreaking mistake. But a mistake. She shouldn’t have a long sentence and lose her freedom for most of her life. She should never be a police officer again.
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Post by uksue on Dec 24, 2021 20:53:00 GMT
In the video I saw, she was on the ground with officers comforting her, chanting “I’m going to go to prison.”. They said it was immediately following. I’ve just watched and what I saw she was chanting ‘oh my God’ for over 2 minutes. Is there a doctored version I’ve watched ? ETA she says ‘ I’m going to go to prison’ just twice at 1 minute 4 seconds . |
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Post by PEAcan pie on Dec 24, 2021 21:13:44 GMT
I honestly am sick that she was found guilty. What is next? Charge doctors and nurses for murder if a medical error kills someone? Me too!! It was not intentional. It has to be incredibly difficult to apprehend a criminal...she had seconds to make a decision in a very stressful situation. Now she has to spend her life in prison...why would anyone want to be an officer? Way too much risk and stress. |
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Post by Zee on Dec 24, 2021 21:21:40 GMT
Charge doctors and nurses for murder if a medical error kills someone? As they should. Well, you'd have to prove intent for murder charges. Manslaughter would be more appropriate, but it would have to be a pretty egregious error. Like using a gun instead of a taser. |
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Post by prapea on Dec 25, 2021 1:21:03 GMT
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Post by Laurie on Dec 25, 2021 1:47:31 GMT
I believe it was a mistake and that she didn’t intentionally set out to kill him.
However, my feeling is the same about this as it is with the truck driver…someone died so someone needs to be held accountable. Do I think either of them deserve to spend the rest of their life in jail? No, but they do need to be held accountable.
Also, as an aside the correlation between doctors and this is ridiculous. It is another apples to oranges comparison. The doctors life is not on the line.
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