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Post by christine58 on Dec 27, 2021 22:18:55 GMT
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Post by johnnysmom on Dec 27, 2021 22:24:15 GMT
It actually lengthens it for those who are vaccinated but not boosted. Pretty sure previous guidance was vaccinated people did not have to quarantine unless they had symptoms.
Im actually surprised they’re shortening it right now, I would have thought they’d wait to see how the next weeks (post holidays) played out.
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Post by Merge on Dec 27, 2021 22:27:32 GMT
It actually lengthens it for those who are vaccinated but not boosted. Pretty sure previous guidance was vaccinated people did not have to quarantine unless they had symptoms. Im actually surprised they’re shortening it right now, I would have thought they’d wait to see how the next weeks (post holidays) played out. It's because businesses (and soon, schools) can't operate if every person who tests positive or is a close contact is out for 10 days. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Dec 27, 2021 22:27:43 GMT
Another WTH decision from the CDC. When Trump was in office I felt like he was pressuring them, now you have to wonder.
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Post by Jili on Dec 27, 2021 22:29:55 GMT
It actually lengthens it for those who are vaccinated but not boosted. Pretty sure previous guidance was vaccinated people did not have to quarantine unless they had symptoms. Im actually surprised they’re shortening it right now, I would have thought they’d wait to see how the next weeks (post holidays) played out. It's because businesses (and soon, schools) can't operate if every person who tests positive or is a close contact is out for 10 days. My thought exactly. I wrote an another thread today that I’m worried about staffing when we return. That should be less of an issue now. Anything to avoid a return to remote. |
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Post by myshelly on Dec 27, 2021 22:32:58 GMT
The quarantine time at DH’s work has been 3 days for a positive case and 0 days for close contact since spring 2020 🤷🏻♀️
Work does not ask for/know vax status.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 27, 2021 22:54:41 GMT
Another WTH decision from the CDC. When Trump was in office I felt like he was pressuring them, now you have to wonder. Maybe they are changing the guidelines as new data becomes available. I guess the alternative would be just to stick to one set of guidelines regardless of the new data they receive good or bad. I mean it’s not like we have anything similar to this happen in modern times that the medical community/elected officials can refer to for some sort of guidance. |
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Post by Merge on Dec 27, 2021 22:55:01 GMT
It's because businesses (and soon, schools) can't operate if every person who tests positive or is a close contact is out for 10 days. My thought exactly. I wrote an another thread today that I’m worried about staffing when we return. That should be less of an issue now. Anything to avoid a return to remote. We literally could not return to district-wide remote at this point. There is no framework in place for it. Our kindergarteners would have no idea how to do it. We don't have the technology for it (thousands of school-issued Chromebooks and hotspots were never returned to the district after students were remote last year). We'll be limping along with whatever staffing we have this spring. Yay. |
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 27, 2021 22:56:21 GMT
The quarantine time at DH’s work has been 3 days for a positive case and 0 days for close contact since spring 2020 🤷🏻♀️ Work does not ask for/know vax status. Really, that’s clearly an employer that doesn’t take the safety of their employees seriously. Not the type of employer I would want to work for. |
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Post by Jili on Dec 27, 2021 23:03:49 GMT
My thought exactly. I wrote an another thread today that I’m worried about staffing when we return. That should be less of an issue now. Anything to avoid a return to remote. We literally could not return to district-wide remote at this point. There is no framework in place for it. Our kindergarteners would have no idea how to do it. We don't have the technology for it (thousands of school-issued Chromebooks and hotspots were never returned to the district after students were remote last year). We'll be limping along with whatever staffing we have this spring. Yay. Same exact situation. I don’t want to go back to remote. I think this announcement assures the public that it won’t come to pass because it doesn’t need to. |
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Post by lisae on Dec 27, 2021 23:08:27 GMT
While they may be 'motivated by science,' they are equally motivated by the economy. If everyone is out sick, people can't get food, medicines and schools can't operate. We are back to 2020 and the administration does not want that. I don't disagree with their assessment but let's be honest that the recommendation needed to change based on the expected spread of this virus. We have already seen what has happened to air travel.
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Post by Merge on Dec 27, 2021 23:11:10 GMT
While they may be 'motivated by science,' they are equally motivated by the economy. If everyone is out sick, people can't get food, medicines and schools can't operate. We are back to 2020 and the administration does not want that. I don't disagree with their assessment but let's be honest that the recommendation needed to change based on the expected spread of this virus. We have already seen what has happened to air travel. This. I agree that the decision can be motivated both by changing science and by economic/societal factors. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Dec 27, 2021 23:14:58 GMT
My thought exactly. I wrote an another thread today that I’m worried about staffing when we return. That should be less of an issue now. Anything to avoid a return to remote. We literally could not return to district-wide remote at this point. There is no framework in place for it. Our kindergarteners would have no idea how to do it. We don't have the technology for it (thousands of school-issued Chromebooks and hotspots were never returned to the district after students were remote last year). We'll be limping along with whatever staffing we have this spring. Yay. I know for sure at least at my DD school, they know exactly where every stinking Chromebook is. I have to sign a gazillion forms, she has to sign forms, 3 days before school is let out, Chromebooks are returned. If not returned, student (parents) have to pay whatever the price is for them. I believe they will not let the kids advance to the next grade until that is cleared up. (Now if they enforce that or not, I don't know).. |
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Post by Merge on Dec 27, 2021 23:19:13 GMT
We literally could not return to district-wide remote at this point. There is no framework in place for it. Our kindergarteners would have no idea how to do it. We don't have the technology for it (thousands of school-issued Chromebooks and hotspots were never returned to the district after students were remote last year). We'll be limping along with whatever staffing we have this spring. Yay. I know for sure at least at my DD school, they know exactly where every stinking Chromebook is. I have to sign a gazillion forms, she has to sign forms, 3 days before school is let out, Chromebooks are returned. If not returned, student (parents) have to pay whatever the price is for them. I believe they will not let the kids advance to the next grade until that is cleared up. (Now if they enforce that or not, I don't know).. We have similar systems in place. We also have over 200,000 students and a highly mobile/high-poverty population. Keeping track of students and families was made even worse than usual during Covid, when many lost their homes and moved in with family or friends, or left the city entirely. It would cost more than the technology is worth to track all those people down and try to collect. |
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Post by johnnysmom on Dec 27, 2021 23:38:48 GMT
We literally could not return to district-wide remote at this point. There is no framework in place for it. Our kindergarteners would have no idea how to do it. We don't have the technology for it (thousands of school-issued Chromebooks and hotspots were never returned to the district after students were remote last year). We'll be limping along with whatever staffing we have this spring. Yay. I know for sure at least at my DD school, they know exactly where every stinking Chromebook is. I have to sign a gazillion forms, she has to sign forms, 3 days before school is let out, Chromebooks are returned. If not returned, student (parents) have to pay whatever the price is for them. I believe they will not let the kids advance to the next grade until that is cleared up. (Now if they enforce that or not, I don't know).. That’s really hard to do when you know the kids/parents don’t have the money ☹️ The most we can do is put them in lost mode and not check out any more to them (meaning if the kid is remote for any reason they get paper packets….those don’t get done/returned either but paper is cheaper). |
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 27, 2021 23:56:43 GMT
It actually lengthens it for those who are vaccinated but not boosted. Pretty sure previous guidance was vaccinated people did not have to quarantine unless they had symptoms. Im actually surprised they’re shortening it right now, I would have thought they’d wait to see how the next weeks (post holidays) played out. It's because businesses (and soon, schools) can't operate if every person who tests positive or is a close contact is out for 10 days. Exactly. I am so grateful living and working in states that still have mandatory masking at least. I thought this was interesting and pretty telling that this is likely more About keeping things moving and not so much about public safety. "Alternatively, if a five-day quarantine is not feasible, it is imperative that an exposed person wear a well-fitting mask at all times when around others for 10 days after exposure," the CDC added.". |
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 27, 2021 23:58:46 GMT
Hopefully people are going to know not to be really sick for more then 5 days because employers are going to be wanting them back into work sooner then later.
Doesn’t seem to be any good answers here.
Interestingly my son’s school is going remote every Friday for the rest of the school year to help with staffing shortages and mental health.
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Post by Merge on Dec 28, 2021 0:03:47 GMT
Hopefully people are going to know not to be really sick for more then 5 days because employers are going to be wanting them back into work sooner then later. Doesn’t seem to be any good answers here. Interestingly my son’s school is going remote every Friday for the rest of the school year to help with staffing shortages and mental health. It does say that the shortened time is for people who don't have symptoms. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 28, 2021 0:36:33 GMT
Public health is always a balancing act. There is never a perfect answer. Whether it's water quality, food safety, automobile safety etc - agencies have to balance health and welfare and cost and feasibility. That's just reality. They're looking at the bell curve of transmission and making a decision - will a small percentage of people still be infectious - yes - but it's no different than the small percentage of contamination they allow in every single thing you consume as the cost vs benefit doesn't make sense for society.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Dec 28, 2021 0:37:49 GMT
and like someone mentioned above, if you have a positive test, you should wear a mask for the rest of the 10 days, I took it whether you had symptoms or not.
This comes as my DS just ends his 10 day isolation!!!!
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Post by SockMonkey on Dec 28, 2021 0:41:22 GMT
Hopefully people are going to know not to be really sick for more then 5 days because employers are going to be wanting them back into work sooner then later. Doesn’t seem to be any good answers here. Interestingly my son’s school is going remote every Friday for the rest of the school year to help with staffing shortages and mental health. It does say that the shortened time is for people who don't have symptoms. And I totally get that the asymptomatic folks are less likely to spread (lower viral load). BUT, I also know that folks roll up to school REGULARLY who are symptomatic and pretend they're not. (Cue me reporting a handful of students to the school nurse this fall because they were coughing all the heck over the place, yet sitting in school in the middle of a dang pandemonium.) They'll just roll in sooner now. 😭 |
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Post by Merge on Dec 28, 2021 0:49:34 GMT
It does say that the shortened time is for people who don't have symptoms. And I totally get that the asymptomatic folks are less likely to spread (lower viral load). BUT, I also know that folks roll up to school REGULARLY who are symptomatic and pretend they're not. (Cue me reporting a handful of students to the school nurse this fall because they were coughing all the heck over the place, yet sitting in school in the middle of a dang pandemonium.) They'll just roll in sooner now. 😭 That is true. I had several hacking up a lung in my class the week before break. Not sure what to do about that. I’m getting pretty tired of the hot takes from higher ed people online, though, who are all “back to remote learning now.” Dude, have you taught kindergarten online? How about 120 kindergarteners at the same time? With their parents audibly complaining about what a waste of their time it is? I would honestly rather die of Covid than do that again. Just another example of people trying to push policy on those who do an entirely different job. |
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Post by Zee on Dec 28, 2021 0:50:34 GMT
While they may be 'motivated by science,' they are equally motivated by the economy. If everyone is out sick, people can't get food, medicines and schools can't operate. We are back to 2020 and the administration does not want that. I don't disagree with their assessment but let's be honest that the recommendation needed to change based on the expected spread of this virus. We have already seen what has happened to air travel. This. I agree that the decision can be motivated both by changing science and by economic/societal factors. As has already been proven in the early days and no one can blame Trump now. I'll certainly never trust them again. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Dec 28, 2021 0:54:18 GMT
And I totally get that the asymptomatic folks are less likely to spread (lower viral load). BUT, I also know that folks roll up to school REGULARLY who are symptomatic and pretend they're not. (Cue me reporting a handful of students to the school nurse this fall because they were coughing all the heck over the place, yet sitting in school in the middle of a dang pandemonium.) They'll just roll in sooner now. 😭 That is true. I had several hacking up a lung in my class the week before break. Not sure what to do about that. I’m getting pretty tired of the hot takes from higher ed people online, though, who are all “back to remote learning now.” Dude, have you taught kindergarten online? How about 120 kindergarteners at the same time? With their parents audibly complaining about what a waste of their time it is? I would honestly rather die of Covid than do that again. Just another example of people trying to push policy on those who do an entirely different job. The white women wolves of our community would burn down the district office if we went remote again. Not gonna happen. And I'm in a very blue state with mask/vaccine mandates. We CAN do this with testing (which our district provides voluntarily through the state - will be 2x a week now if you want), masking, and continued push for vaccination of K-12 students. Personally, I think vaccines should be mandatory for the students. They are for the staff (or weekly testing, and even that I think is a strong kindness that was pushed by the union at the state level to maintain members). |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 28, 2021 1:34:09 GMT
Half our staff is out positive.
The few of us left are going in, keeping doors locked and cleaning.
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Post by breetheflea on Dec 28, 2021 1:46:45 GMT
I wonder if this will be a repeat of "if you're vaccinated you don't have to wear a mask..."
Time will tell, I guess.
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