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Post by merry27 on Jan 5, 2022 16:39:55 GMT
My 14 year old has caused us a lot of problems that I have posted about on here. X is a freshman. Has always liked the opposite gender. I just found out that their friend of the same gender are more than friends- I guess nothing has happened but they have feelings for each other. We have always told our kids that we love them no matter who they love as long as they are happy. I am kind of shocked and am upset about feeling this way. I never saw this coming. It seems like a lot of X's friends say they are bi. It seems like this has become "trendy" or popular to say with kids this age. I have had gay friends before and always thought I would be ok if one of my kids were. Instead I feel upset.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 5, 2022 16:45:04 GMT
Give yourself some time to process.
Also, I don’t think it’s “trendy” or “popular.” It’s just not a big deal to their generation.
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Post by peabay on Jan 5, 2022 16:47:43 GMT
Number one: do NOT say anything about it being trendy. Whether it is or not, it's insulting and will make him defensive.
Try to keep your feelings to yourself and project "I love you no matter what." Even if you are struggling, which is okay and normal.
And go to the PFLAG website. You will find a lot of assistance.
Even if he's not bisexual, right now he thinks he is, so go with that. It'll be fine either way. It really will. I promise.
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Post by lesley on Jan 5, 2022 16:51:40 GMT
You will be ok. But this is something it sounds like you didn’t expect, so as Gennifer says, give yourself time to process it. My DS is bisexual, and it surprised me how taken aback I was when I found out - much more than I was when my DD told me she was gay. At the end of the day, I spend less than 10 seconds a year considering my children's sex lives, so the gender of who they’re having it with doesn’t actually matter to me at all. ETA I fully agree that thinking it is 'trendy' is very condescending and dismissive.
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Post by Linda on Jan 5, 2022 16:57:22 GMT
I think it's less that's it's trendy/popular and more that the younger generation sees sexuality as a spectrum and are okay with that. I know when I was a teen -being anything other than 100% straight was simply not okay and I had NO classmates/friends who acknowledged being anything other than 100% straight - but the reality is, some of them weren't and it must have been a very hard, scary thing to realise back then.
It IS okay as a parent to struggle with your feelings - we grew up in a different culture/society than today's. But I think it's important to accept our kids as who they are and make sure they know they are loved no matter what. I've found it helpful to acknowledge to my kids that something is new to me and that I'm doing my best to learn and that I love them and ask them to please be patient with me if I mess up - because I will, it's inevitable - but I am trying. And I do apologise when it happens.
((((Hugs)))) You're a good parent - I know this because your child came to you and shared this with you.
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Post by merry27 on Jan 5, 2022 17:09:42 GMT
Thank you for the replies. I appreciate those that pointed out my misuse of the word trendy or popular. I try to be very private on this board since I have a few friends and family on here. I appreciate the advice I get but like being incognito. My 14 year old is my daughter. I used the term trendy/popular because it seems like a ton of girls her age say that they are bi. I do agree that kids these days are more fluid and it's not as big of a deal. I did hug her and reiterated that we love her no matter who she loves and that we just want her to be happy. One of my main concerns is this relationship with her friend. I think it's a very toxic relationship (even when I thought it was just a friendship). They constantly argue and there is so.much.drama. Ugh. Another thing is that they had been having sleepovers and I told her that has to end. I explained that the rules need to be the same as if she liked a boy (we wouldn't allow him to sleep over or be in her room with the door closed).
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 5, 2022 17:12:07 GMT
Sit back and see what happens. And make sure that as you are processing your feelings about it, you are doing so with other adults, rather than with the teen.
I don't think that it's "trendy" for kids to be LGBT+. I think that our generation repressed a lot of feelings and made a lot of choices based on social expectations (ask me how many older divorced people I know who married opposite-sex people to try to live a socially acceptable life -- it's a lot), and this generation has a better world to live in in this respect, anyway.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 5, 2022 17:13:05 GMT
My DD told me she was gay a few years ago. Since she was only nine, I told her okay no big deal. Do you want to discuss it or just leave it be for now. We left it alone and it's been brought up again here and there. I had the same original thoughts about it being trendy and all that. Or how do you know? Things like that. I didn't say that to DD at all. I am just rolling with it.. it's not an issue. I needed time to process and my first thoughts I didn't want her to think that anything was wrong with her (and there is not).. it was just something I (we, dh and I) have never really dealt with... I have always had gay friends here and there and it's never been a big deal.. so this isn't a big deal... I just needed to process it. Edited: I think my first initial thoughts were how other people will treat her (and family members)...I didn't want her to be picked on. She is very shy and her self esteem is not always the greatest. As far as family goes, most everyone has been great. Friends I am not so sure. I think it's been fine but some of them have been raised conservative like us and in the Bible says being gay is a sin. It's what we learned. I have learned that that is not up to me and between God and her.. I am not to judge and neither is anyone else. So that is where we are at.. having to discuss this with friends to tell them not to throw that in her face.. we are to support her if needed and keep your opinions to yourself if you can't talk about it in a positive way. I think what has surprised me most that she is questioning that there isn't a God. For me, I am struggling with that. Keeping it positive but internally it's something that shocked me. I am a true believer there is a God. So yeah.....
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Post by garcia5050 on Jan 5, 2022 17:20:08 GMT
I believe my DD (16) is a closeted lesbian. It just makes me sad that she feels she can’t tell me. Who she likes/loves doesn’t matter at all to me. I really just want her to be happy and comfortable in her own skin. I would love it if she just told me. I think it would reduce some of her anxiety.
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Post by flanz on Jan 5, 2022 17:22:59 GMT
I think it's less that's it's trendy/popular and more that the younger generation sees sexuality as a spectrum and are okay with that. I know when I was a teen -being anything other than 100% straight was simply not okay and I had NO classmates/friends who acknowledged being anything other than 100% straight - but the reality is, some of them weren't and it must have been a very hard, scary thing to realise back then. It IS okay as a parent to struggle with your feelings - we grew up in a different culture/society than today's. But I think it's important to accept our kids as who they are and make sure they know they are loved no matter what. I've found it helpful to acknowledge to my kids that something is new to me and that I'm doing my best to learn and that I love them and ask them to please be patient with me if I mess up - because I will, it's inevitable - but I am trying. And I do apologise when it happens. ((((Hugs)))) You're a good parent - I know this because your child came to you and shared this with you. What a beautiful response. I agree but wouldn't have been so eloquent. xo
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 5, 2022 17:54:29 GMT
…it surprised me how taken aback I was when I found out… Same.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jan 5, 2022 18:07:45 GMT
Your ds is discovering who he is. Your job is to help him love himself and honor his authentic self. Gay/straight/bi/trans? All normal and natural. Recognize that your son is a beautiful human who is capable of great love and a great life. He's self aware and you'll want to do everything you can to support that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 5, 2022 19:42:28 GMT
I think Linda 's response above is very apt. Although I grew up outside of San Francisco, so being gay wasn't the stigma people perhaps experienced in other areas. There was still very much a "are you straight or are you gay" mentality. The fluidity is absolutely completely different for this generation as well as the complete comfort exploring. One of my daughter's friends has really embraced exploring. She had a boyfriend during early high school, identified as bisexual, identified as lesbian, identified as non-binary - all over a year or so. She currently uses she/her pronouns and has a boyfriend. Absolutely none of her friends - boy or girl batted an eye at any of it and merely inquired if they should change pronouns while they were non-binary.
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Post by PLurker on Jan 5, 2022 20:08:53 GMT
These things do take you aback at first. I think out of fear for your child's treatment by others for the most part. I remember thinking is wish it was different, a easier life for them. Then I corrected myself thinking yes, it should be easier but not by them changing but by the attitudes of those around them and out in the world.
Earlier in in my elest's ongoing journey, I was talking to them over the phone and their voice sounded so much younger that day for some reason. The child of the past, now an adult out on their own. And as silly as it may sound, and although I've had the same thought multiple times before it really hit me that day, that nothing had really changed. It REALLY hit me.
This person was the same I raised, had a lot of adventures, laughs and giggles. It was them. It was always them. Defining themself, for lack a a better word, changed nothing really. They are the same compassionate, bright, smarter than their mom, kind person they always were.
I knew that, but something about that phone call, maybe because not in person it was so much clearer and easy to see. Weird seeing clearer often doesn't involve eyes.
Just love them.
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Post by Ryann on Jan 5, 2022 20:16:10 GMT
I think it's okay to be upset in the right now. You are processing a big change to your current situation. Your teen might have had years to know this about herself. You've had days. It's okay to be upset right now and feel your feelings. You are starting at the right place (with love, not hate), so you will get to where you want to be (where you "thought" you'd be). Be kind and show love and compassion to yourself, just as you are to your teen. You've got this!
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Post by Just T on Jan 5, 2022 20:20:07 GMT
I have 4 children, two of them are gay. I did have moments where I was a bit, I don't even know the right word. Not really sad, but sort of if that makes sense. I worried about how things in their life might be more difficult because even though attitudes have changed, not everyone's has. The first time my daughter and her girlfriend went out in public to a professional baseball game, I was a nervous wreck. I couldn't stop envisioning some drunk a$$hole guys harassing them, or worse. My son is recently married to a guy who likes to dress in women's clothing. He has made it quite clear he is not transgendered, he just likes to wear women's clothes, shoes and jewelry. And he loves purses. I do worry about them, but not as much as I used to. I love that my son is so accepting and loving with him, but it's hard to not worry about the shIt they may encounter out in the world. All that to say I think it is completely normal for you to have a hard time dealing with this news, as long as you keep it to yourself and show your daughter nothing but love and support. Which it sounds like you are.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 5, 2022 20:45:42 GMT
My 14 year old has caused us a lot of problems that I have posted about on here. X is a freshman. Has always liked the opposite gender. I just found out that their friend of the same gender are more than friends- I guess nothing has happened but they have feelings for each other. We have always told our kids that we love them no matter who they love as long as they are happy. I am kind of shocked and am upset about feeling this way. I never saw this coming. It seems like a lot of X's friends say they are bi. It seems like this has become "trendy" or popular to say with kids this age. I have had gay friends before and always thought I would be ok if one of my kids were. Instead I feel upset. I can only respond to this as a parent of heterosexual adults. But, my concern was/would be good education on STDs all the way around and how to prevent them, birth control if the pairing can lead to a pregnancy for either of them, and what good healthy relationships (sexual, friendship or a work relationship) looks like. My take on it is **I** am not involved in their sex life nor do I want to be! I don't want to know what goes on in the very intimate parts of their relationship whether it is hetero or homosexual. I don't want to witness a drawn out "make out" session not matter who is involved. As the parent of a teen I agree with the no sleep overs for either sex but I had ended sleep overs by around 10 anyway.
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Post by PLurker on Jan 5, 2022 20:51:37 GMT
Just T yep, when you boil it down, the worry tends to be of others' perceptions and possible unkindness. Which is kind of (ok very) sad for the state of the world. Seriously, if you can picture true acceptance by (all) others, the fears... Poof!
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Post by peaname on Jan 5, 2022 21:18:26 GMT
When I went through a similar situation a friend reminded me to approach the situation in the same way I would if my child had feelings for someone of the opposite gender at a young age. I realized I would just educate him and expect him to have a lot of different feelings until he’s mature enough to handle a relationship. And then he moved on to someone else. Very common.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 6, 2022 0:27:24 GMT
Gosh I dont know how to put this. I sure hope I’m not offending anyone but I’m struggling for the right words to say.
Being bisexual isn’t a ‘trendy’ thing and just because they’ve liked opposite gender people in the past ( and might in the future ) doesn’t make them any less bisexual. It just means that they are open to loving people without basing that on a gender. This is just the point they are at now with whom they care for. I don’t recall what previous ‘trouble’ your 14 yo has gone thru, I’ll be the first to admit the teen years were rocky as hell for me with my kids, so I’m not trying to be judge mental. But, I’m having a difficulty with a teen being bisexual being implied as a problem as in the OP. I suggest to try choose words more carefully since you have people you know here? ( not trying to be mean really not sure how to word that )
However, I’m right there with you about seeing your child enter a toxic relationship & that being a huge problem. That is not easy to watch. At 14 you do have some say in where your child goes & what they do but try to emphasize reasons other than sexuality or gender as to why your putting limits on what they do. Perhaps you’re actually more upset by the toxicity of the relationship than the anything else? So if you have need to discuss the relationship with your child try to focus your words on the toxic behaviors instead.
I hope you find good advice
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 6, 2022 3:09:52 GMT
Let them tell you, don’t push.
In the meantime, familiarize yourself with terminology and specific terms within the LBGTQ community (brush up on the “lingo”) so that you can be supportive and not offensive when the time comes.
Remember that kids see/watch everything—so Openly support LBGTQ—showing that you are supportive to the community at large may be the ice breaker your child needs to see for them to open up.
It’s okay to process—just don’t do it at the expense of the child!
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Post by tincin on Jan 6, 2022 3:17:19 GMT
…it surprised me how taken aback I was when I found out… Same. Me too. I was so worried how the world would treat him.
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