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Post by cakediva on Jan 12, 2022 2:46:03 GMT
I’ve only ever had a chest freezer. Our current one is old and frosted and and energy sucker.
we’d like to upgrade to an upright style.
All the photos on the websites show pretty organized pictures - full of boxed frozen goods. Are they good for meat? I’m talking the styro tray, cello wrapped, grocery store meat.
And size? Is larger better? Any favourite brands?
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jan 12, 2022 3:16:06 GMT
I had a small, maybe 5' tall freezer at our last house. Sadly I made the decision to leave it for the new owners. Realistically we wouldn't have a good spot for it in this house even though we have a 4-car tandem garage. My treadmill is in the spot where we would have put it.
But I loved the freezer. It had 3 or 4 shelves and was perfect for our needs. It was great in the winter for freezing lots of soups and gumbos. I always buy in bulk at Costco so we always had frozen meat/chicken, etc. Whatever space wasn't taken up by food, I kept frozen milk jugs of fresh water in case of an earthquake.
Oh, it wasn't frost-free. But it was really simple to defrost on occasion.
ETA: I never freeze meat wrapped at the grocery store. I always use my Food-Saver.
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Post by Linda on Jan 12, 2022 3:30:08 GMT
We bought an upright when we moved in early 2021 to replace the small (5 cu ft) chest freezer that was 24 years old - I'm happy with the new one www.lowes.com/pd/Midea-21-cu-ft-Upright-Freezer-White/5001657297mine mainly stores meat, frozen fruit & vegetables, homemade broth, and occasional leftovers. I do use shoe boxes and sweater boxes (the plastic ones) w/o their lids to organise the meat esp. I have all the ground beef standing upright - I buy a big pack and divide into freezer bags and use a rolling pin to flatten - for instance. And another holds all the boneless chicken - again I buy a big package and divide up. I don't have a foodsaver so I use freezer bags - and yes, the store packaging. It's certainly easier to find stuff than the chest freezer was. That said - chest freezers do tend to keep food a bit colder because of the design and frost-free isn't ideal (from a long-term freezing perspective) but I decided that convenience of not defrosting and not having to hunt for that one package at the bottom of the freezer was well-worth the trade-offs
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Post by dewryce on Jan 12, 2022 4:12:23 GMT
When you ask if they’re good for meat, what exactly do you mean? We have an upright, and the shelf that isn’t full has jugs of frozen water on them to help. As for organizing, I found the best plastic bins to fit the width and depth of my shelves to make the most of my space. They’re all the same brand, but they aren’t all the same size. iDesign or Interdesign is the name. I’ll go grab a link. I also use this brand throughout the house so if I stop needed a particular on in the freezer it’s easy to repurpose. This is the small size. We have a couple for fish, one for steaks, one for pork chops, and one for when we premake burgers, pork, meat mixtures. We make 4 meals, eat one, freeze the rest. I like this one for the wider items. Chicken breasts, prepackaged thighs, ground beef, pork loins & bacon, etc. go in here. Everything in the above bins is stored upright, dated, oldest in the front. Super, super easy to look in and see what we have, what we need to use soon, and what we need to restock. Then we have a huge one I can’t find link to. But it’s probably at least 10” high and just as wide. It’s not as deep as the freezer, but I need it for oddly shaped items like shrimp, scallops. If we have an odd thing we don’t usually eat it’ll go in here as well. Ours is mostly proteins on the normal shelves. Occasionally we’ll buy a frozen pizza or lasagna and throw it in there. In the bottom drawers one is fruits, the other vegetables. Love the shelves on the door. The top is dairy (lots of butter, cream, buttermilk, etc.). The next is all cheeses. And below that is odd items like the pot pies DH likes to buy, or pie crust around Thanksgiving. Or when I buy frozen Luby’s fish for DH There is often extra room down here. To keep it super cold in there once a week we go “shopping” for our meal plan so we don’t have to open it very much. Things like different broths and other flavors (like orange juice in 2 TBSP), ice packs, smoothie packs are stored in the bottom of the French Door fridge in the kitchen. We use them more often and they don’t need to really stay in a deep freeze state.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 12, 2022 4:58:05 GMT
We have both a chest freezer and a big upright. Both are almost always full. We typically keep our meat in the upright because we get a side of beef at a time and it would be hard to find what we wanted on any given day if it was all piled in the chest freezer. We mostly keep the stuff that comes in boxes (frozen fish fillets, pizzas, ice cream novelties) or in bags (Costco frozen veggies, bags of frozen fruit, bags of frozen chicken breasts, etc.) in the chest freezer because that stuff is easier to tell what it is at a glance.
FWIW, unless it comes in a freezer bag like the Costco flash frozen chicken breasts, we don’t store any frozen meat in grocery store ready to cook packaging like you’ve described (styro tray, stretch wrap plastic). All of our beef comes from a butcher wrapped in freezer paper, and anything we buy from anywhere else (usually in bulk) is broken down into smaller packages and frozen in Ziplock freezer bags. Unless you’re using it pretty quickly, that’s just asking for the stuff to get freezer burned and nasty.
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Post by AllieC on Jan 12, 2022 5:01:09 GMT
I love, love, love ours. Its upright with basket/drawers. We hardly eat any boxed frozen things so it's all trays of meat or in bags when we've divided up a large purchase plus meals we've made and frozen the leftovers. It saves us a lot of money and I'd never be without one.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 12, 2022 5:07:56 GMT
We have one and have mostly frozen food in it. I love our freezer. It is awesome. I just used bread I had from it and it was still decent from the sumner.
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 12, 2022 6:02:37 GMT
It’s a freezer, like a frig or chest freezer. Photos on line are marketing to entice you with perfection, like for anything.
We have one. Unless already vacuum packed like some chicken pieces from Whole Foods, foods can get freezer burn and don’t taste good if frozen too long unless vacuum sealed. No different than other types of freezers. So I vacuum seal ground turkey, chicken, etc., and even loaves of bread if buying a bunch.
Our freezer came with a couple of baskets which we use for chicken and other odd shaped foods. I had a couple frig bins that are used for small items.
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Post by amom23 on Jan 12, 2022 6:27:28 GMT
We have a large upright. I purchased a lot of different bins from Amazon to keep it organized. I do have to defrost mine 2x a year which is a pain.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Jan 12, 2022 12:51:41 GMT
One downside to an upright is that it's easier to inadvertently leave it open.
Because of this, we got in the habit of using the key to lock it every time we go in. Key is kept right on the top of the freezer for easy access.
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Post by blue tulip on Jan 12, 2022 13:02:34 GMT
we bought an upright about 10 years ago and will never go back to chest. it is pretty easy to keep it organized; ours has a large wire drawer on the bottom we use for frozen cheese, then we keep our portioned, vacuum-sealed chicken and beef in boxes with part of the front side cut away for easy access. it lives in our garage. definitely get one with an alarm if the temp raises, our kids have left the door slightly ajar a couple times but we've never lost anything.
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Post by lily on Jan 12, 2022 13:05:48 GMT
I love having an upright freezer. Ours is in the garage, right outside the door into the house.
I always wrap raw meat in freezer paper before putting in the upright 'deep' freeze. Seems to keep it from getting freezer burn.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 12, 2022 13:58:17 GMT
When you ask if they’re good for meat, what exactly do you mean? We have an upright, and the shelf that isn’t full has jugs of frozen water on them to help. I mean - we buy meat at the grocery store and it goes into our chest freezer for use later in the week (or the following week or two if we forget all that is in there lol). I just don't see any meat in the freezer photos of any of the upright models I've looked at. So I'm wondering if they work as well as a chest freezer for deep freezing things that could be there a month or two.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jan 12, 2022 14:09:33 GMT
I have both. I use the chest freezer for meat and stuff I’m not going to use right away. The upright is for freezing cookies and for stuff needed more readily available. DS’s chicken is in there, he goes through it so fast I’m not worried about it. I’ve always heard, whether it’s true or not, that a chest freezer, that needs to be manually defrosted is better for story meat because it doesn’t cycle like a frost free one does. Whether it’s true or not, I don’t know.
I never store meat in the container it comes in. I use my food saver and before that I’d wrap in plastic, then foil, then put into a freezer bag.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jan 12, 2022 14:38:34 GMT
When you ask if they’re good for meat, what exactly do you mean? We have an upright, and the shelf that isn’t full has jugs of frozen water on them to help. I mean - we buy meat at the grocery store and it goes into our chest freezer for use later in the week (or the following week or two if we forget all that is in there lol). I just don't see any meat in the freezer photos of any of the upright models I've looked at. So I'm wondering if they work as well as a chest freezer for deep freezing things that could be there a month or two. Of course they're good for freezing things that will be a month or two. The only difference with an upright and a chest freezer is how the door opens. Frozen foods have shelf lives longer than that anyway. It of course depends on the product itself, but many foods can be frozen unharmed for a year. An upright freezer is the way to go if you have the space. It's easier to organize, and you don't lose things at the bottom. Ours is tucked into a perfect corner in the garage right by the kitchen. It also has a beeper if the door is open too long. Mine is organized: Top Shelf - frozen pizza's, desserts, frozen fish (we have lots, DBF is a fisherman) 2nd shelf - boxed lunch meals, bags of fries/tots/hashbrowns, frozen sandwiches, appetizers, etc. 3rd shelf - roasts, bigger cuts of meat, smaller meats in stackable containers small short drawer - bagged veggies large bottom drawer - tubes of ground beef/pork/turkey, bags of meatballs, bags of chicken breasts/wings door - bacon, pot pies, bagged shrimp, ice packs, misc small things Buy on sale if there's room in the freezer, save money later.
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 12, 2022 15:21:20 GMT
When you ask if they’re good for meat, what exactly do you mean? We have an upright, and the shelf that isn’t full has jugs of frozen water on them to help. I mean - we buy meat at the grocery store and it goes into our chest freezer for use later in the week (or the following week or two if we forget all that is in there lol). I just don't see any meat in the freezer photos of any of the upright models I've looked at. So I'm wondering if they work as well as a chest freezer for deep freezing things that could be there a month or two. A freezer is a freezer. If you vacuum seal many foods are fine for a year or two - and some say longer. If you don’t vacuum seal, you do what you’ve always done. Just get as much air out as possible. It’s the temperature that matters, not the style. Our freezer’s legs were adjusted so there’s the barest bit of tilt backwards - not noticeable it if you look at it - so it closes by itself. But there’s also an alarm, which like blue tulip said, is a good feature.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 12, 2022 15:31:28 GMT
What is this "organized" of which you speak?
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 12, 2022 15:32:32 GMT
I have both. I use the chest freezer for meat and stuff I’m not going to use right away. The upright is for freezing cookies and for stuff needed more readily available. DS’s chicken is in there, he goes through it so fast I’m not worried about it. I’ve always heard, whether it’s true or not, that a chest freezer, that needs to be manually defrosted is better for story meat because it doesn’t cycle like a frost free one does. Whether it’s true or not, I don’t know. I never store meat in the container it comes in. I use my food saver and before that I’d wrap in plastic, then foil, then put into a freezer bag. Plastic wrap, foil, freezer bag and also a food saver bag? Are you doing all that to protect from freezer burn, and if so, have you tried with just the food saver bag or plastic (bag or wrap) plus the food saver bag? I use a plastic bag or wrap and then a vacuum seal (generic) bag, or sometimes just the vacuum seal bag and have never had freezer burn. I’d heard that about chest freezers, but everything is frozen solid in our upright and that’s good enough for me. Ours is in our rec room and we go into it 2-3 times a week, very briefly.
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Post by styxgirl on Jan 12, 2022 15:49:22 GMT
Our first freezer was a small chest freezer I bought when the kids were babies for storing extra breastmilk. It had a little basket that slid along the top edge where I kept it and all other food was stacked below. The problem for us was that with a chest freezer, we had to DIG to find stuff and I often didn't and stuff would be in the bottom for YEARS and then thrown away...
When we moved, we bought a larger upright, frost free freezer. It is awesome! It's not organized in any particular way, but I LOVE that I can see everything in there without having to DIG! LOL
Ours has an alarm if the temp on it has gone too high (in case of a power outage).
It has a few drawers and storage in the drawers.
I also have a FOOD SAVER. If I buy meat in a foam tray/bulk, I repackage it in Food Saver Bags with labels and dates.
Also leftovers that won't be eaten right away get Foodsavered, labeled and dated so we can find them easy and use them up too!
Best wishes!
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Post by iowgirl on Jan 12, 2022 15:54:43 GMT
DO NOT BUY A FROST FREE DEEP FREEZE!!!It is important that you do not get a frost free type freezer for long term storage. Frost Free means that the unit will regularly heat up to defrost, then drop the temp again to freeze. This will quickly cause any stored food to 'freezer burn'. My regular refrigerator/freezer is frost free - and I wouldn't want it any other way. But if you plan on keeping things frozen for a longer period of time (over a couple weeks) - NEVER get a FROST FREE freezer. SO important! Newer deep freezers don't frost up as bad as older ones did. Better seals help that a lot. I have had my (chest type) freezer for at least 20 years. I have never really 'defrosted' it. I do pop out a few areas of thicker frost every year or so. I just use a dull table knife and get behind the blob of frost and pop it off. I don't open my freezer every day, so that helps too. I keep my chest type freezer organized with Grocery totes. I get the ones that are stiffer sided (they fold up for storage when not in use). I can organize by putting hamburger in one, roasts in one, pork in one, chicken in one - etc. THen I can just lift them out to easily access throughout the freezer. So this is a great way to organize if you have a chest type. I also have metal baskets that are on each side on the top (those came with the freezer). An upright would be nice, but you defiantly need to keep it organized, so things don't slide out. I feel like you get less storage, but it is easier to see things. I have a convertible type upright. It can be a refrigerator or a deep freeze, with the flick of a switch. I almost always use it as a second fridge, unless we have an emergency butcher and all my other storage is full. I use the same grocery totes to organize the upright freezer. Oh, it wasn't frost-free. But it was really simple to defrost on occasion. That's a GOOD thing - you never want a Frost Free as your deep freezer! One downside to an upright is that it's easier to inadvertently leave it open. This is true-and if you have a 'landslide' it can push the door open. You can Lock the door, or get a velcro strap that sticks on each side of the door. They have a snap closure - so your door is secure. They are made to keep toddlers out of the fridge. Something else I suggest for ALL deep freezers is a LOCKING PLUG - We had our electrician install this for our deep freeze. You have to plug it in and twist it to lock. Nothing else can be plugged in to it. This prevents someone from unplugging the deep freeze to use that out let for something else, and then forgetting to plug it in... or having the freezer just accidentally get unplugged. Worth the extra little investment!
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Post by peabay on Jan 12, 2022 15:55:01 GMT
I have a stand up freezer - it's literally 25 years old; has no interior light; needs to be defrosted 2x a year and is probably my favorite thing we own. It got us through those first months of the lockdowns in 2020. I use it for everything. And I literally have no organizational method to it.
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Post by bc2ca on Jan 12, 2022 16:08:02 GMT
I grew up with a chest freezer and lived in fear of falling in as a child. When DH and I bought a freezer, I wouldn't even look at the chest style. He struggled with the idea of an upright only because he didn't believe it would work as well. It took only a month to convert him. We used it mostly for meat, seafood and bread. Back in the day, I'd buy 8 loaves of bread at a time at the bakery outlet. Grocery store meats were easy to organize and stack. Another bonus for the upright freezer is my DH has never met a surface that he doesn't cover with his stuff. I could care less about things stacked on the upright freezer. I'd be constantly rehoming items we both agree he'd stacked on a chest freezer.
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 12, 2022 16:08:21 GMT
I have a stand up freezer - it's literally 25 years old; has no interior light; needs to be defrosted 2x a year and is probably my favorite thing we own. It got us through those first months of the lockdowns in 2020. I use it for everything. And I literally have no organizational method to it. I love your no-org organization. And your upright sounds just like the one I grew up with, though yours is much newer. My mother labeled things with a marker and freezer tape like “liver,” which I figured out meant brownies or cookies she’d baked. 😋 DH and I lucked out by happening to buy our upright freezer weeks before the pandemic. I had been saying it would stop the constant running to the store (which DH did) if we stocked up on frozen “staples” like chicken, sour dough bread, veggies, fruit, etc. Our frig freezer is on the bottom, which I love, but it doesn’t hold that much.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 12, 2022 16:31:51 GMT
What is this "organized" of which you speak?
Like I said - the photos on the website selling the freezer. LOL My chest freezer is like diving into the depths of frozen hell to search for something!
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jan 12, 2022 17:18:41 GMT
Oh, it wasn't frost-free. But it was really simple to defrost on occasion. That's a GOOD thing - you never want a Frost Free as your deep freezer! That's exactly why I didn't get a frost free! And I believe it was cheaper for that reason.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 12, 2022 17:28:10 GMT
DO NOT BUY A FROST FREE DEEP FREEZE!!!It is important that you do not get a frost free type freezer for long term storage. Frost Free means that the unit will regularly heat up to defrost, then drop the temp again to freeze. This will quickly cause any stored food to 'freezer burn'. My regular refrigerator/freezer is frost free - and I wouldn't want it any other way. But if you plan on keeping things frozen for a longer period of time (over a couple weeks) - NEVER get a FROST FREE freezer. SO important! Newer deep freezers don't frost up as bad as older ones did. Better seals help that a lot. I have had my (chest type) freezer for at least 20 years. I have never really 'defrosted' it. I do pop out a few areas of thicker frost every year or so. I just use a dull table knife and get behind the blob of frost and pop it off. I don't open my freezer every day, so that helps too. Well darned if I can't find any freezers that are NOT frost free around here. Any site I've gone to (our usual appliance place, lowes, home depot etc) don't have any listed that are not frost free. A few offer a "quick freeze" option - a button you can press after you load it to quickly freeze things. But most are frost free. Sigh
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Post by zztop11 on Jan 12, 2022 19:07:44 GMT
When we moved 2 yr. ago, we gave our neighbor our old freezer and purchased a new upright freezer that is frost-free. Meaning you do not have to defrost it. Only way to go!!!
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Post by CardBoxer on Jan 12, 2022 19:26:32 GMT
DO NOT BUY A FROST FREE DEEP FREEZE!!!It is important that you do not get a frost free type freezer for long term storage. Frost Free means that the unit will regularly heat up to defrost, then drop the temp again to freeze. This will quickly cause any stored food to 'freezer burn'. My regular refrigerator/freezer is frost free - and I wouldn't want it any other way. But if you plan on keeping things frozen for a longer period of time (over a couple weeks) - NEVER get a FROST FREE freezer. SO important! Newer deep freezers don't frost up as bad as older ones did. Better seals help that a lot. I have had my (chest type) freezer for at least 20 years. I have never really 'defrosted' it. I do pop out a few areas of thicker frost every year or so. I just use a dull table knife and get behind the blob of frost and pop it off. I don't open my freezer every day, so that helps too. Well darned if I can't find any freezers that are NOT frost free around here. Any site I've gone to (our usual appliance place, lowes, home depot etc) don't have any listed that are not frost free. A few offer a "quick freeze" option - a button you can press after you load it to quickly freeze things. But most are frost free. Sigh I think you will find that most people with frost free upright freezers are extremely happy with them. And I’d guess most people don’t want uprights you have to defrost, so there aren’t many manufactured. We’ve had no freezer burn or problems with food recently used that’s been stored since the beginning of 2020. People have different opinions, don’t get worried when some opinions are stated very strongly.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 12, 2022 19:55:38 GMT
I love, love, love ours. Its upright with basket/drawers. We hardly eat any boxed frozen things so it's all trays of meat or in bags when we've divided up a large purchase plus meals we've made and frozen the leftovers. It saves us a lot of money and I'd never be without one. The freezer has saved our ass, esp this summer when our fridge konked out. I never wanted a chest bc I cannot stand digging around, when we went to buy our new fridge, it had a chest freezer option too and I didn't even consider it. That would drive me nuts. Our old fridge had a side by side, but it wasn't big enough to store frozen pizzas or a lot of meat we would portion up, so all those things are kept in the stand alone upright freezer in our basement.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jan 12, 2022 22:16:20 GMT
I have both. I use the chest freezer for meat and stuff I’m not going to use right away. The upright is for freezing cookies and for stuff needed more readily available. DS’s chicken is in there, he goes through it so fast I’m not worried about it. I’ve always heard, whether it’s true or not, that a chest freezer, that needs to be manually defrosted is better for story meat because it doesn’t cycle like a frost free one does. Whether it’s true or not, I don’t know. I never store meat in the container it comes in. I use my food saver and before that I’d wrap in plastic, then foil, then put into a freezer bag. Plastic wrap, foil, freezer bag and also a food saver bag? Are you doing all that to protect from freezer burn, and if so, have you tried with just the food saver bag or plastic (bag or wrap) plus the food saver bag? I use a plastic bag or wrap and then a vacuum seal (generic) bag, or sometimes just the vacuum seal bag and have never had freezer burn. I’d heard that about chest freezers, but everything is frozen solid in our upright and that’s good enough for me. Ours is in our rec room and we go into it 2-3 times a week, very briefly. I used to do plastic, foil, freezer bag before I got my FoodSaver. With the FoodSaver, I just use that.
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